So if you get ganked in empire and have a 30 day killright on someone a day before the winter patch, will that disappear with the new killrights-purchasing system?

So if you get ganked in empire and have a 30 day killright on someone a day before the winter patch, will that disappear with the new killrights-purchasing system?

What was the answer in the petition you filed?

"Your mother."

Dude gets into ibis. Alt gets into Helios. Alt scans down empire dwellers at their mission sites. Ibis dies horrible death to hero fit faction BS x a zillion. New killrights system comes online. Main in ibis puts a very reasonable 80 million ISK bounty on each hero-fit empire tool. Main profits. Empire PvPers profit. Heros of empire cry tears.

Some quick cash to take you into the new expansion? Sounds like a really simple plan to me.

Iam not ccp and dont know what there thinking but something tells me after patch day with the new reworked kill rights if you have kill rights before the patch youll have them after makeing it much funner to hunt the SOB that ganked/t tryed ganking you.

As for the Bounty system you should read how it payouts will work.

Your first question is a good one but the story of the ibis pilot would not have kill rights on the Hero for the fact idiis was flaged and red to the hero and was shot legal now yes you can put a bounty have a pilot per the new system but as for the kill rights the ibis pilot is SOL. So reread the post from ccp on the new kill right system and bountys so you have a better clue how it works before opening a post that you clear have no idea what your talking about.

Who doesn't know what they are talking about? I never said a thing about bounties. This has nothing to do with bounties at all. Pricing your killrights is independent of the bounty system.

Man... you have no idea wtf you are talking about. If somebody kills you in empire for stealing a wreck, you get a killright. Stealing from cans is not an "act of aggression", and while CONCORD doesn't intervene, you still get a killright. But no really, thanks for your insight.

Iam not ccp and dont know what there thinking but something tells me after patch day with the new reworked kill rights if you have kill rights before the patch youll have them after makeing it much funner to hunt the SOB that ganked/t tryed ganking you.

As for the Bounty system you should read how it payouts will work.

Your first question is a good one but the story of the ibis pilot would not have kill rights on the Hero for the fact idiis was flaged and red to the hero and was shot legal now yes you can put a bounty have a pilot per the new system but as for the kill rights the ibis pilot is SOL. So reread the post from ccp on the new kill right system and bountys so you have a better clue how it works before opening a post that you clear have no idea what your talking about.

Who doesn't know what they are talking about? I never said a thing about bounties. This has nothing to do with bounties at all. Pricing your killrights is independent of the bounty system.

Man... you have no idea wtf you are talking about. If somebody kills you in empire for stealing a wreck, you get a killright. Stealing from cans is not an "act of aggression", and while CONCORD doesn't intervene, you still get a killright. But no really, thanks for your insight.

I need to look into this ^

I thought you got a killright if you were killed from stealing from cans but some people are telling me no...

Yup I'm a jack***. No killright for stealing from cans. That's OK though... just pilot an unfit indy through lowsec for a thousand kills or so. I'll find another way to do it. ...not before finding the answer to the question if killrights are going to carryover into the next expansion.

Heres another question that is about the up and coming kill rights and bounty change.

Since eveyone starts fresh when the new system is rolled out, what happens to the ISK(bounty) that was placed on a person? They said it will all be reset, but if a player was to place a bounty on another player that is now not going to be collected shouldnt that be returned to said player?

Yeah I know its usless to place bounties on players becuase they can just use a alt to collect it. After going over the changes this one kinda stood out as a issue for those who have done it in the past. While flying around doing missions i see these guys with massive bounties and just think of all the wasted ISK that wont be collected on by anyone.

Anyways, thats whats on my mind...

Any thoughts?

This thread is confusing me? I don't understand the point.

It seems like the OP is saying that people will be able to pay money for kill rights, which is a feature in the upcoming patch. Is he saying he doesn't like the feature?

The Devs already said that any existing bounties would be sucked into the black vacuum of space, never to be heard from again. ...so if the one on you is significant, might want to get an alt to take care of that for you before the expansion.

you are flying through empire in an unfit Badger. You enter a .5 sec system and are ganked by 2 Tornados.

No. I love the feature. I think it's awesome!!!!

I'm asking if killrights before the expansion patch will carry over after the patch.

In other words, if you, Carlton, are ganked in empire on the day before the patch, will you still have a killright on the ones who ganked you after the patch (as killrights last for 30 days)?

Edit: In fact... I can't say enough good things about the new killright system. I do want to say a few more right here though. Think about the awesome implications: Anyone who ganks another player or blows them up in lowsec (assuming they aren't using a killright/dec/whatever) is going to have a killright which, in all probability, is going to be public! Sec Status is going to start to really matter! People might be more reluctant to attack in lowsec, but the highsec laughs will never end! I can't wait... really.

Keep in mind in low sec you'll have to fumble around after getting blown up so that they can take out your pod also... well, after the new system comes on line anyway.

This should never happen considering each tornado has enough alpha for 4 unfit badgers.

Well, unlike bounties, the route to acquire kill rights wont change.

What do you mean by this? Kill rights are going to be front loaded now (so you get them whether the target shoots back or not, and even if you don't destroy them) and in low-sec will only be for pod kills.
I think they should be reset simply because most low-sec kill rights under the old system wouldn't even exist under the new one. But that's for CCP to decide, and until a dev says otherwise, I'll just assume the old kill rights will remain.

Assumptions can be hazardous to your pod

Why don't you wait and see?

I'm sure.... I've seen a post somewhere saying all Killrights disappear in the incoming patch...

So if you get ganked in empire and have a 30 day killright on someone a day before the winter patch, will that disappear with the new killrights-purchasing system?

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Edit: Sorry, just wanted to be clear about what is being asked here because some seem to have confusion about it... maybe I worded it poorly so let me try again:

OK. The expansion (Retribution) comes out on the 5th of December (probably) and with it comes the ability to sell your killrights to other players. This is NOT the bounty system. This is selling a killright.

So put yourself in this situation: It is December 2nd (before the expansion is released) and you are flying through empire in an unfit Badger. You enter a .5 sec system and are ganked by 2 (badly fit) Tornados. At this point you will get killrights, which last for 30 days, on the two pilots piloting those Tornados. On December 6th (AFTER the expansion is released) you log in again. Do you or do you not still have killrights on those two Tornado pilots? Were those killrights deleted when the expansion was applied and the new killrights system implemented, or do you still have the killrights, which can now be sold?

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The reason I asked was b/c I thought it might be fun and profitable to create and alt and send his pod on dangerous autopilot paths at work over and over again in lowsec. When the expansion hits he can cash in and enjoy some lulz.

Man... I poured through everything I could find... CSM minutes cover to cover a few times, bloggers talking about EvE Vegas and other dev appearances, interviews, Q&A, EvE radio shows, devblogs, and any forum post where a dev said so much as "wat", and I couldn't find the answer... so I submitted a very detailed petition (that took a long time to answer, btw... usually they are very quick) so I'd imagine they asked around quite a bit) and that's the answer I got.

What you're thinking of is where it said that all Bounties would end when they rolled out Retribution.

Alice Saki might have thought that... I remember CCP saying that several times. Hell it's in the devblog. Killrights are another matter and I challenge anyone to find a past post where they said something about it. I was clear that I was talking about killrights in my petition.

I never saw anything related to kill rights ending. However, the GM's response was... let's call it "uninspiring." GM's should not be giving answers with the word "should" in them. It either is the case or it isn't, they need to ******* find out for sure and change their answer to "will" or "will not." I still don't understand what is stopping Punkturis and friends from posting a direct response in this thread. They seem more than willing to post in other threads.

So if you get ganked in empire and have a 30 day killright on someone a day before the winter patch, will that disappear with the new killrights-purchasing system?

Kill rights created before the patch will exist after the patch and will use the new kill right functionality.

Kill rights created before the patch will exist after the patch and will use the new kill right functionality.

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