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Actus Reyus Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Get Off My Lawn 1	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:04:00 - [1] - Quote So I saw the new patch today, how about instead of working on things like graphics for the in station environment that literally nobody uses, you fix the bugged out overview? I'm sure I'm harping on a topic that's been discussed before, but seriously, don't you think the main interface for dealing with objects in space is a little more important than the female Achura's bra strap?
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings Damu'Khonde 1820	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:06:00 - [2] - Quote I, too, totally want 3D model designers working on UI/networking stuff. I'm sure the results would be entertaining. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 9907	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:07:00 - [3] - Quote Confirming that 3D artists are UI bughunters. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
Vertisce Soritenshi Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 1800	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:07:00 - [4] - Quote I am sure if you read any of the previous threads on this subject instead of making a new one you would know that different departments and teams have different specialties and projects to work on. It is also not your place to tell the game designers how to run their business. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX!
Jim Era 4896	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:07:00 - [5] - Quote Literally as in real and literal, as in absolutely nobody uses station graphics. Aside from nearly everyone who lurks these forums.
Korinne The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance 25	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:11:00 - [6] - Quote Actually, as paying subscribers, it is our job to tell the devs their business. We are the end consumer, and if we feel the product that we pay for isn't up to scratch it is our responsibility to **** and moan about it. And for one, I agree that I'm sick of all this Dust/Incarna/NeX bullshit when there is other serious stuff in Eve that needs fixing. Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 200	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:18:00 - [7] - Quote Negative. Space barbies and incomplete CQ take precident over actual space combat which the game is based on. Everyone knows that Dustbunnies need to have the graphics for their red dresses correct before they get to play too. Overviews be damned! Fail speed ahead! *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings Damu'Khonde 1821	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:21:00 - [8] - Quote Korinne wrote: Actually, as paying subscribers, it is our job to tell the devs their business. We are the end consumer, and if we feel the product that we pay for isn't up to scratch it is our responsibility to **** and moan about it. And for one, I agree that I'm sick of all this Dust/Incarna/NeX bullshit when there is other serious stuff in Eve that needs fixing. Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff. Feedback from the customer affects what each team handles first, but one does not simply turn model designers into UI developers just because the UI developers have a bigger backlog of things to do. For example, the community clamoring about bugs in how BBCode works on the forum means the web developers need to look at that before they look at, say, adding neat notification menus and options. It does not make sense to say "why are new clothes being released when forums are broken?" because the people who design and release the clothes cannot and should not be coding the forums since they probably have no expertise in that area. Love, a developer who's been faced with this in the past. <3 Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com
Katabrok First Apukaray Security 17	Posted - 2012.10.16 16:32:00 - [9] - Quote Well, I see that a lot of people has show that you don't ask your tailor to fix your car, even if you are late for the weding and the limousine is not working, and he already finished your suit....
Arduemont Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans 389	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:14:00 - [10] - Quote Actus Reyus wrote: So I saw the new patch today, how about instead of working on things like graphics for the in station environment that literally nobody uses How about stfu, and people do use it.
Lord Ryan True Xero 726	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:18:00 - [11] - Quote Katabrok First wrote: Well, I see that a lot of people has show that you don't ask your tailor to fix your car, even if you are late for the weding and the limousine is not working, and he already finished your suit.... So not true. I could fix your suit, car, computer an endless amount of things. I don't like to get dirty so it might be cheaper to go to a "professional". Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient. Nerf it cause I can't fly it. I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes.
highonpop Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension 369	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:19:00 - [12] - Quote Why would CCP work on something that would actually have some functionality instead of making our WiS avatars that hardly anyone sees except noobs who don't know any different? http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya R.I.P Vile Rat http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12
Arduemont Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans 389	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:32:00 - [13] - Quote This "hardly anyone uses WiS" bull **** is starting to get on my nerves. As it stands the people saying this seem to be largely outvoted on the forums, and that's without the massive unrepresented masses of highsec who don't even look at the forums. Seriously. If your going to say something at least put some effort into thinking about whether it's true or not. Because otherwise you might as well not bother posting. Your a whining minority, and your not even whining about something that adversely affects you. Grow up, and use your damn brains.
Kytayn Two Brothers Mining Corp. 43	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:39:00 - [14] - Quote Katabrok First wrote: Well, I see that a lot of people has show that you don't ask your tailor to fix your car, even if you are late for the weding and the limousine is not working, and he already finished your suit.... Good analogy. OP would also need to explain, in the context of the analogy, why the tailor should be prevented from delivering said suit if the limo wasn't ready.
Anslo BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance 428	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:50:00 - [15] - Quote Korinne wrote: Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff. False. Eve is about internet space simulations. That includes "fluff" like walking around in stations.
Widow Cain 47	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:55:00 - [16] - Quote Actus Reyus wrote: So I saw the new patch today, how about instead of working on things like graphics for the in station environment that literally nobody uses, you fix the bugged out overview? I'm sure I'm harping on a topic that's been discussed before, but seriously, don't you think the main interface for dealing with objects in space is a little more important than the female Achura's bra strap? Because artist and programmer are two different professions... OMG You are sooo pixel macho...
Widow Cain 47	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:57:00 - [17] - Quote Korinne wrote: Actually, as paying subscribers, it is our job to tell the devs their business. We are the end consumer, and if we feel the product that we pay for isn't up to scratch it is our responsibility to **** and moan about it. And for one, I agree that I'm sick of all this Dust/Incarna/NeX bullshit when there is other serious stuff in Eve that needs fixing. Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff. No, customers give suggestions, companies can do as they please, keep in mind person(s) owns the company, it is their property to do with as they please. OMG You are sooo pixel macho...
Solstice Project Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1841	Posted - 2012.10.16 17:59:00 - [18] - Quote lol Korinne posting, just to do the only thing she has left to do ... Whine and ***, from the safety and boredom of the station she's sitting in. Congratulations. ^_^ Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire**
Lin-Young Borovskova Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 828	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:04:00 - [19] - Quote Petrus Blackshell wrote: I, too, totally want 3D model designers working on UI/networking stuff. I'm sure the results would be entertaining. This. Also: nice patch CCP, you made us discover another interesting Eve player not having a single idea what he's talking about Props and internets, you give us more than we ask, you're too good with us brb
Megos Adriano Junkyard Dawgs 17	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:07:00 - [20] - Quote My overview tabs tend to "clone" into eachother. Sometimes, my overview randomly deletes things that I want it to display, whilst adding in things I don't care about. It's been doing this for years. vOv I think they should streamline the Overview. In fact, I will devise a system tonight. And boom goes the dynamite.
highonpop Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension 370	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:07:00 - [21] - Quote You guys actually use CQ? I havn't used CQ since the day it came out and it took me 5 mintues to load the station every time i docked. I don't even show avatars in my chat windows to try and save space on my UI http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya R.I.P Vile Rat http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12
GreenSeed 90	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:08:00 - [22] - Quote Tippia wrote: Confirming that 3D artists are UI bughunters. this. people, there are different devs doing different jobs. welcome to the division of labor. now move along please.
ShiftyMcFly's Second Cousin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:11:00 - [23] - Quote Lin-Young Borovskova wrote: Petrus Blackshell wrote: I, too, totally want 3D model designers working on UI/networking stuff. I'm sure the results would be entertaining. This. Also: nice patch CCP, you made us discover another interesting Eve player not having a single idea what he's talking about I think you are talking about the majority of the poasters around here tbh.
Anabella Rella Gradient Electus Matari 276	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:15:00 - [24] - Quote I'm sure CCP's art department are all most excellent UI coders in their spare time who will be sure to jump right on your well thought out and witty suggestion. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand.
Vertisce Soritenshi Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 1800	Posted - 2012.10.16 18:55:00 - [25] - Quote highonpop wrote: You guys actually use CQ? I havn't used CQ since the day it came out and it took me 5 mintues to load the station every time i docked. I don't even show avatars in my chat windows to try and save space on my UI It loaded for me just fine as well as for the vast majority of EVE players on day one and still works fine today for the players that use it. So if it works for me and works for them but not for you...then it begs the questions...what did YOU do wrong? EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX!
Uwara The Ares project 11	Posted - 2012.10.16 19:02:00 - [26] - Quote Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: highonpop wrote: You guys actually use CQ? I havn't used CQ since the day it came out and it took me 5 mintues to load the station every time i docked. I don't even show avatars in my chat windows to try and save space on my UI It loaded for me just fine as well as for the vast majority of EVE players on day one and still works fine today for the players that use it. So if it works for me and works for them but not for you...then it begs the questions...what did YOU do wrong? I doubt its about what he did wrong. Station hangar loads in 1-2 sec, CQ is 10+ sec on the same PC. You can walk down the hallway to sit on the sofa and get the mission, fit the ship, play market, check contracts, whatever and walk back to the pod to undock, wanna roleplay..ok. Or you can just use icons and not move from the entrance. And that renders CQ useless, loading time, walking time, increased CPU/GPU usage is pointless when you can do all those things already without using CQ in the first place. Unless people prefer Barbie & Ken dress-up in a spaceship game.
Anslo BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance 429	Posted - 2012.10.16 19:03:00 - [27] - Quote Solstice Project wrote: lol Korinne posting, just to do the only thing she has left to do ... Whine and *****, from the safety and boredom of the station she's sitting in. Congratulations. ^_^ Says the NPC corp pub.
Korinne The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance 30	Posted - 2012.10.16 20:16:00 - [28] - Quote Anslo wrote: Korinne wrote: Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff. False. Eve is about internet space simulations. That includes "fluff" like walking around in stations. Negative, if that were the case, then you would just have the Sims in space. After all, technically that would be an internet space simulation; that or just a model of cosmic mechanics.
Korinne The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance 30	Posted - 2012.10.16 20:24:00 - [29] - Quote Petrus Blackshell wrote: Korinne wrote: Actually, as paying subscribers, it is our job to tell the devs their business. We are the end consumer, and if we feel the product that we pay for isn't up to scratch it is our responsibility to **** and moan about it. And for one, I agree that I'm sick of all this Dust/Incarna/NeX bullshit when there is other serious stuff in Eve that needs fixing. Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff. Feedback from the customer affects what each team handles first, but one does not simply turn model designers into UI developers just because the UI developers have a bigger backlog of things to do. Then perhaps they should hire more UI developers and lay off/get rid of clothing designers, that or hire more versatile people. Just because someone is a mechanic doesn't mean they don't know how to cook.
Anslo BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance 431	Posted - 2012.10.16 20:30:00 - [30] - Quote Korinne wrote: Anslo wrote: Korinne wrote: Eve is about internet spaceships, everything else is fluff. False. Eve is about internet space simulations. That includes "fluff" like walking around in stations. Negative, if that were the case, then you would just have the Sims in space. After all, technically that would be an internet space simulation; that or just a model of cosmic mechanics. Also false. You fail to see the big picture. If you were a real life spacer, you would not be limited to a pod and looking at your ship in space while spinning it in station. You would go out on the station promenade, look at potential investments in said station, you'd leave your ship to survey planets in person for PI stuff. You'd jump into a shuttle to explore ruins of ancient Sleeper stations. You'd jump into a corridor of a POS or Outpost and join the shoot out against those who'd take your station, because they don't just fall and roll over by being shot at. Station personnel don't magically disappear. Hell, you'd even take a holiday and tour a city in Dodixie or chill on a beach in Intaki. Sure, maybe this isn't what you personally would have in mind in the game, but that is what a science fiction universe would have. A true all encompassing science fiction opera brought to reality fulfilling the culmination of a generation's worth of sci-fi fans' fantasies. So you can stay in your pod, you're welcome to. But many of us want that full and all encompassing Science Fiction universe to become fully immersed in. Personally, I'd love to jump ship and screw around on a planet like Mass Effect's Illium, buying drugs, making trades, running a bar. Hell, even making a sky scrapper to rent out would be nice.

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