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Agrajag
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Posted - 2003.07.04 04:48:00 -
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Whoever decided on the nerf bat idea should be shot. So it's symbolic of not being happy with the patch, as if the amount of whining isn't enough we have to see this bat rubbish as well.
When I say whining I understand a lot of people are frustrated and have legitimate issues but is it really that hard to just report bugs and give CCP half a day to see what they will do? Do we really need to see the same gripe in a hundred different threads? Or do some of you just like to a see you're names on the board?
And those talking about sueing, whos dumber, CCP for putting out a game and trying to make it better by listening to the *****ing on these boards or you for continuing to play the game when you don't actually like is for what it is.
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Drefsab
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Posted - 2003.07.04 04:52:00 -
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If you had bothered to read my posts I am clearly stating I like the game, Im just talked about current issues and ccp policys. The nerf bat is purly to do with the fact ccp keeps making "tweaks" & "ballencing" that should have been done in the beta. With this being the final game it matters if someone spends a month getting items and skills only to have CCP make it all useless on a whim.
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Koaba
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Posted - 2003.07.04 04:54:00 -
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LOL
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Agrajag
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:04:00 -
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Hmmm. Didn't know I mentioned you're name... I take it the bat was you're idea then.
So what if ot should have been done in the beta? This isn't beta whether you like it or not. Some people who played beta decided to some back to Eve in a few months after release to see if the bugs were mostly gone. There is nothing stopping people who can't take the way the game is no from coming back in another couple of months to see if the game is better for them.
Again, I'm not saying there arn't problem because there definately are. It's how many people complain but don't do anything constructive to help. We had a number of invitations to test on the test server but the vast majority couln't be bothered, me included I might add. Should we have to spend time debugging for CCP? Hell no, but the fact of the matter is that they obviously need our help and ranting the same stuff in a dozen threads isn't going to help.
So the question is, who wants to be part of the solution to Eves problems and who wants to be part of the problems. A lot of the noise here is simply part of the problem IMHO. I am NOT slamming everyone here who has complained or to anyone in particular really, as I said, some of the issues are ligitimate.
The term "constructive critisism" comes to mind, and reporting bugs via the bug forms instead of filling these boards with stuff everyone knows in a dozen different threads. |
Damon Vile
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:04:00 -
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Yes I agree drefsad they should leave the game as it is because I'd much rather play a ****ty game then suffer through the fixes.
They should of fixed it in beta, but they didn't get over it.
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Indaek
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:05:00 -
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Ironic, whinning about a whinner? I don't care if there are hundreds of posts on the same thing, i am unhappy with all the time i lost and no way will ccp compensate all of it. I have filled bug reports on top of bug reports, never got one thing back. Why should i pay them to test thier stuff and keep silent? If i am unhappy with the product i am going to the companies forums and practice my freedom of speech where you or anyone else likes it or not!
The genreal public that comes here to see if they want to purchase this game needs to know what they are in for.
If you don't like it don't read it, that simple.
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Damon Vile
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:12:00 -
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"freedom of speach" is a right in the USA
You are not in the USA you are on an internet forum. You have no right of "freedom of speach" here.
CCP makes the rules here if you don't like them don't play.
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Drefsab
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:15:00 -
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Damon Vile, just to note I have never once said they should not improve the game, I have only said the should have fixed the existing bug before adding more features and thus more bugs.
Agrajag, the bat wasnt my idea but I agree with what it simbolizes hence why I use it on my sig. As for complaining, if no one ever complained nothing would ever change or improve. I dont try to be offensive and I often try to offer solutions to the problems. But like many people I am frustraited by the last of offical information of even recognition of the issues.
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Lintaki
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:18:00 -
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Funny how bills are near to being passed on email spam but i guess that is not part of the internet either? It's amazing what can be done if ya get the politics involved. |
Indaek
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:23:00 -
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Drefsab i agree...i was totaly pro ccp, but after the snafu today i have to rethink things and it has really frustrated me. Along with the censoring of people (locking threads, deleted posts and kicking people from icq) by finding picky rules to enforce just so they can eliminate the negative reaction is amazing.
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Tristan
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:32:00 -
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Agrajag, i looked you up in game.
0.0 sec status, nooby corp. you look like an alt char. hell for all i know your a polaris guys alt or something.
lucky, because it would be you who would get shot not me. oh.. and im not the one nerfing everything FYI. ccp is.. so shoot them why dont ya.
even pann is in the noob corp
why i didnt take her ingame email seriously. i mean the last person you would expect to email you is pann ingame.
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Damon Vile
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:35:00 -
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Well take the ammo range mod. PPl are ***** up a storm about it. It's not a nerf it's a fix
The cargo cans....
This is killing ppl, though not near as many as you hear about on the forums. It is an exploit and if you ask just about anyone here exploits that kill you should be #1 on the list for fixing.
Factories and labs...
How many threads on this one?
when this much *****ing goes on I'd say it's something alot of ppl want fixed. So they tried to fix it.
Same with the market. The last fix sucked, so they gave it another go. So far it's better but I haven't played with it much.
With any project you never have everyone working on one thing. Some ppl fix old problems some look forward to new features. I do agree that they need to test the new stuff way way longer, but that little bat only makes you look like a whinny child who has nothing worth while to say. Don't see how you're going to get much respect from them as long as you use it.....you did say you wanted to help fix the game didn't you?
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Hordaek
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:42:00 -
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The cargo can exploit needed a fix but how about fixing the cargo can bug first where it quits showing the ore in it once somone stacks while another is taking it out. Now that timer they added has people getting bugged causing it to reset and not able to eject another can to replace the bugged one.
We were corp mining and everyone had to gather thier drones in and relog to clear stuff up. We had to do this about every 15 to 30 mins. If ya going to change something how about fixing it first, geez.
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Viperx
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:49:00 -
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Agrajag, i think you should be shot. You're trolling is just going to get this post locked, i really hope you enjoyed wasting you're time
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Morkalum Takor
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Posted - 2003.07.04 05:57:00 -
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Problem is. People are still identifying the Dev Team being funded by the CCP as the (CCP)culprits ****ing everyone off.
Dev Teams are trying to provide you the entertainment.
CCP corporation is only wanting money to come off of the game and they are getting it one way or another.
Problem:CCP reduced the beta time because they wanted retail to start paying them nice sums of money.The Dev Team had to compensate. And this is what you have. So if you want to blame someone. Blame the CCP corporation. NOT the Dev Team. The Dev Team has no say when the game goes retail or not because their grants come from CCP corporation.
Funny how we are playing a corporation related game and we are getting cheated by a real one...
"There's more than one side to a story..."-Reporter for the InterCorp Courier Enterprises |
Tristan
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Posted - 2003.07.04 06:01:00 -
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morkalum, i think you are confusing something.
CCP are the developers.
SSI are the publishers.
i think thats what your getting at.
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Damon Vile
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Posted - 2003.07.04 06:05:00 -
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Beta was not cut short it was extended twice, the original release date ( after beta started )was middle of december 2002.
They should have extended it a third time though...maybe a forth :)
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Morkalum Takor
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Posted - 2003.07.04 06:13:00 -
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ok, I had to relook my data and see I am wrong on two accounts...oi....need to go over what I am debating...
At least we all agree on one thing....more time was needed for Beta...but something pushed them to do it.....either money from their investors, or money they wanted from players....
"There's more than one side to a story..."-Reporter for the InterCorp Courier Enterprises |
Norvalle
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Posted - 2003.09.19 15:16:00 -
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.19 15:20:00 -
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You know there's other nations civilized enough to allow their citizens freedom of speech, it's not an american only thing... 
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Chucky
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Posted - 2003.09.19 15:45:00 -
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You know there's other nations civilized enough to allow their citizens freedom of speech, it's not an american only thing...
Ah...name one?
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.19 15:52:00 -
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no nonoooooooo plz not another US vs the World Thread :(
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2003.09.19 16:04:00 -
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You know there's other nations civilized enough to allow their citizens freedom of speech, it's not an american only thing...
Ah...name one?
ROFL, are you kidding? Most of Europe has better freedom of speech and expression laws. Try France. Also, Canada's freedom of speech laws are at least as good. Most of Scandanavia, Germany (with the exception of Neo-**** teachings, which I think they are understandably reticent to accept), Italy has good freedom of speech laws too. And most of the countries mentioned have more functional civil law systems, so it's not as simple as in the States for the wealthy to muzzle freedom of speech by instituting huge libel suits.
Honestly, y'all may think it's the BEST country on earth, but in fact it's just a good country that has the BEST military and economic machine going ATM. (US Strateigic Flame defense system activated).
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Baff's Ugly
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Posted - 2003.09.19 16:11:00 -
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whos dumber, CCP for putting out a game and trying to make it better by listening to the *****ing on these boards or you for continuing to play the game when you don't actually like is for what it is.
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equally i might say who's dumber? the person complaining in a company managed thread about the performance of their product, or the person who continues to read threads he doesn't like instead of quitting the forums he clearly doesn't enjoy.
i've been around and i've played a few games.
while i agree that it is highly unsatisfactory to purchase imperfect software, not to mention illegal, i have played numerous other games with higher and lower bug counts.
i have noticed that ALL the massively multiplayer games are riddled with bugs and issues. i feel that this is directly related to the complexity of the hardware and number of connections to manage. add to this that the server is probably a sun system or something equally as obscure and it all totals up to an extremely complex system.
i would be unhappy, except that, mt requests are answered, patches and updates are being continually released. even on saturday night techs are available to fix problems.
as i said, i 've played them all. this is the best support i have ever heard of. planetside came close. but no weekend support. if the servers crashed on weekend no game till monday. also tech supp was office hours (in america) only.
most importantly of all i beleive in the revolutionary and progressive game system. i understand that it may well be in a state of teething for the first 6 months to a year, but as long as it keeps pushing the boundaries i will continue to be very satisfied with my buy. ctd's and all.
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