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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.03.27 19:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Chachurga
This is so stupid, if evryone would use the EVE-KILLS there wouldnt be a problem.
And why that ? Most of those killboards existed wayyyy before eve-kills.
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Shivaja
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Posted - 2005.03.27 19:35:00 -
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Mostly CHON made
NORAD Killboard 
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Shirei
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Posted - 2005.03.27 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chachurga
This is so stupid, if evryone would use the EVE-KILLS there wouldnt be a problem.
Maybe..
if it wasn't so laggy.
if it had a better layout so it wouldn't be so hard to get info out of it.
if it weren't so much of a hassle to copy over hundreds of kills from another kill-board.
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The1
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Posted - 2005.03.27 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: The1 on 27/03/2005 21:14:46
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Chachurga
This is so stupid, if evryone would use the EVE-KILLS there wouldnt be a problem.
Maybe..
if it wasn't so laggy.
if it had a better layout so it wouldn't be so hard to get info out of it.
if it weren't so much of a hassle to copy over hundreds of kills from another kill-board.
You might be right about the problems with eve-kills, but as long as everyone "keeps their own score" you have to take all of it with a grain of salt. Until there is a universaly accepted killboard they are all open to the propaganda of the corp that owns the particular board. Like it or not, at this point eve-kills is the best thing going and IMHO should be the universal standard.
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Romulus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.03.27 21:49:00 -
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Thx guys, keep it up 
evekills isnt great , imo, BoBs board is very nice to navigate. Ive heard many bad things about evekills.
This wasnt a measure of whos boards pwns whos. More for my own viewing pleasure, and to allow ppl like Shamen to cross reference mails. Speak to dimensionZ, he might hook u up with a board if u guys cant sort one, then u can make public any unpublished losses etc.
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.03.27 21:58:00 -
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m0o killboard for second coming:
Second Coming
And of course the third (current) coming, using the BoB killboard:
Third Coming
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Stradivarious
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Posted - 2005.03.28 01:39:00 -
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FA's killboard was unfortunately not designed with a view feature for non members, and as the designer is currently in mOo... I doubt that will be rectified :/ To compensate, some of us post on eve-kills as well as the FA boards... So look there for us :)
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Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2005.03.28 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: The1
Until there is a universaly accepted killboard they are all open to the propaganda of the corp that owns the particular board. Like it or not, at this point eve-kills is the best thing going and IMHO should be the universal standard.
1) What makes eve-kills any more/less accurate than any other? Nothing, so long as you accept the fact that not everybody will use it or even want to.
2) What makes eve-kills a better product than anyone elses killboards? Nothing. The comparison to the BoB boards and eve-kills makes eve-kills look like a 3-year old designed it.
So eve-kills is an ugly, difficult-to-use product that is just as innacurate as any other board (like it or not). Lastly...
3) What you want will only come about if CCP endorses, populates, and maintains it without user intervention.
I can sympathize with your need to have an objective criteria in which to quanitfy combat damage/prowess/etc, but eve-kills is clearly not the answer.
If ECM is an act of aggression, why am I not on kill mails?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.03.28 11:31:00 -
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www.eve-kills.com is ok but I have a lot of difficulty adding some of my kills to it and one of my losses (covert ops).
I add all my kills to the CLS one but I mostly always forget to add to the XF one 
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Ifni
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Posted - 2005.03.28 13:09:00 -
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D.N.A
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Rasta Rocketman
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Posted - 2005.03.28 13:44:00 -
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Snigg uses www.eve-kills.com
We have a snigg-only killboard as well, but I'm not sure it's been made publicly viewable yet.
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Cmdr Patrick
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Posted - 2005.03.28 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Cmdr Patrick on 28/03/2005 14:25:43
http://www.eve-kills.com
we started to post our own around the beggining of the foe war, most others are from ones we were involved in but never got the mail
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2005.03.28 17:37:00 -
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FoE killboard
very inaccurate, you need to post alot of losses.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Romulus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.03.28 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: SwitchBl4d3
FoE killboard
very inaccurate, you need to post alot of losses.
Well, now everyone cna look at Celes board to verify rumour of ppl not posting losses
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.03.28 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: SwitchBl4d3
FoE killboard
very inaccurate, you need to post alot of losses.
True. But also some Kills are missing 
[G] - Pink Power
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2005.03.28 18:10:00 -
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there are 20 missing from today. only motharussia reported a loss, and still alot missing from yesterday.
whats missing from ours in losses then?/
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2005.03.28 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Angry Dan on 28/03/2005 18:41:11
Huzzah Feds board is currently private, and we have no desire to change that.
You do realise the amazing intel you can get from these things right? ship types, setups, modius operandi etc. With a little time spent, these things tell you everything you need to know about your opponent.
As a matter of intrest though, surely a method of passing data between killboards could be developed. All the boards need to do is to bounce the most recnet update about, and log wihich sites sent it. If every site connects to 3 or 4 others, eventually, every kill would work it's way around the network.
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.03.28 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Angry Dan
As a matter of intrest though, surely a method of passing data between killboards could be developed. All the boards need to do is to bounce the most recnet update about, and log wihich sites sent it. If every site connects to 3 or 4 others, eventually, every kill would work it's way around the network.
What's the point ? I mean, bob killboard is only interested in bob kills/losses.
As a matter of fact, killboard.net is linked with a few other killboards, but only close allies and such.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.03.28 20:33:00 -
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Just because a lot of BoB ppl dont post their losses doesn't make their killboard any worse than eve kills. A lot of ppl don't post theirs on there either. Eve kills is great because you can compare yourself to other corps. Thats about the only good thing it has going for it tho.
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2005.03.29 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Latex Mistress
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What you forgot to add is eve-kills is free and open to everyone to use.
1) What makes a killboard accurate? Kills, sure losses may be missed out by people(cough foe cough), but if people started using just 1 killboard, these would be compensated as someone would eventually post the kill for the other persons loss.
2) Its not necessarily ugly, but just a design that doesnt quite make sense. Designs can be changed, part of the nature of the internet, funnily enough.
Although Im not necessarily for it(I tried it a while ago and got errors), its a step in the right direction as far as Im concerned.
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2005.03.29 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: dimensionZ
Originally by: Angry Dan
As a matter of intrest though, surely a method of passing data between killboards could be developed. All the boards need to do is to bounce the most recnet update about, and log wihich sites sent it. If every site connects to 3 or 4 others, eventually, every kill would work it's way around the network.
What's the point ? I mean, bob killboard is only interested in bob kills/losses.
As a matter of fact, killboard.net is linked with a few other killboards, but only close allies and such.
So you can verify kills. Isn't annoying when we hear the rants about "X groups killboard doesn't show the losses". In theory, if kills/losses are verifed, then we should see who's boards are more accurate. Althoug, I expect to hear a lot more arguments about peeps posting kills from the test server/fake kills etc.
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ReForMatt
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Posted - 2005.03.29 02:48:00 -
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Why even bother with corp kill boards one way to get away from he didnt post losses bla bla.. Use eve kills deal with its glitches it will get better. And get this no one has to post losses because the person on the other end of the mail has the kill. Problem solved.
I think the only real complaints you will hear are the people that are selling there killboard services to corps for isk they are the only ones with anything to lose.
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Dezra
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Posted - 2005.03.29 06:54:00 -
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Well we dont wanna use eve-kills for the simple fact, we have our own. Its much better and reliable. The argument about ppl using the same, so they can compensate for kills not posted, dosnt really make a difference. Its quite easy to cross reference kill boards and find out which corps that dont post their losses.
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Estios
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Posted - 2005.03.29 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: The1
Edited by: The1 on 27/03/2005 21:14:46
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Chachurga
This is so stupid, if evryone would use the EVE-KILLS there wouldnt be a problem.
Maybe..
if it wasn't so laggy.
if it had a better layout so it wouldn't be so hard to get info out of it.
if it weren't so much of a hassle to copy over hundreds of kills from another kill-board.
You might be right about the problems with eve-kills, but as long as everyone "keeps their own score" you have to take all of it with a grain of salt. Until there is a universaly accepted killboard they are all open to the propaganda of the corp that owns the particular board. Like it or not, at this point eve-kills is the best thing going and IMHO should be the universal standard.
Ok Im not having a dig but I cannot fathom what you are trying to say.
How is EVE-Kills anymore 'non propaganda' than someone elses site ?
How is it not each corp 'keeping their own score' ??
Ive not used it but a) Does CCP post kills automatically to the board or is it each corp doing it themselves ? b) Does it show figures with any less 'grains of salt' ? c) Does it filter out Sisi kills etc.
I'd like to know what logic you put into your opinions because to me it doesnt look any more official than other corps boards which a) have been in existence longer, b) look better and c) have better security and features
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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meowcat
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Posted - 2005.03.29 09:03:00 -
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Edited by: meowcat on 29/03/2005 10:04:34
Originally by: Chachurga
This is so stupid, if evryone would use the EVE-KILLS there wouldnt be a problem.
i cant get it to work, it just hangs my IGB.
anyway, it gives the enemy far too much info
(also lots of tards post SiSi kills there)
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Gypsy Djinn
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Posted - 2005.03.29 13:12:00 -
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We have our own, but we decided to use eve-kills to be able to compare against those that use it. It maybe laggy sometimes but atleast its a central location that shows some sort of comparison
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2005.03.29 15:20:00 -
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The only way to make this work properly is Have Eve-otally the scores. but i'd rather see beta bugs quashed first than going all doolally over a kill list.
But sometime in the future Via this site would be good.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.03.29 15:36:00 -
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agreed switch
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Azeusus
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Posted - 2005.03.31 12:55:00 -
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otherwise u get problems like this:
Unique FOE Numbers
Acording to FOE board i was killed twice in previous corp.
Azeusus Kill Stats
The accurate board shows ive killed 15 FOE that aint made it to the FOE killboard yet, and lost none.
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Namelesz
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Posted - 2005.03.31 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Shamen
Not trying to make this thread off-top but...
Tatzlwurm Arcane Technologies ATUK Scorpion Yulai no 26.03.2005 15:17 GMT
That kill was due to a bug and was reimbursed by CCP so it didnt get posted for that reason, sry. He was docked when he logged off and when re-logged back in was in warp towards your fleet, DOH!
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