EvE has an immense learning curve, and because of that there are a just half a million players when there could have been millions. They sacrificed the ability to make a WoW, so they could instead they make a game that stays true to the sandbox.

Retribution / Inferno, for example. CCP is starting to make huge strides in taking away the power of NPCs'. More content is moving into the hands of the player. Where do you see this trend with other games or companies? In any other game on the market all the developers do is lessen the learning curve and attempt to cater to the masses.

EvE might not always be what you want, yet it is the best there is. So don't make a thread saying "EVE is boring and sucky", go make one that says "I believe there is not enough customization in ship fits" or "why can every character manufacture the same".

Systems strewn across the galaxy and there is no randomness of space GÇô Why are resources effectively equal? Why arenGÇÖt some other parts of the galaxy more ore rich? Why not some with ice? Why has scarcity not invigorated trade or warfare?

This.

Have a re-read of my original post, anyone can train from I-IV easily. Level V is a serious case of diminishing returns at the margins. Not much of a choice going for the extra 2%.

Hey ! But eve isn't sandbox !! It always was sadbox or I miss something ?? But seriously eve it's not sandbox game never was it was marketing trick invented by ccp marketing team few expansions ago. If you don't believe you may check this.. Anyway eve is sandboxish game but not sandbox. Rules inside eve are too clear and too framed and ther is too much of them. So please stop that sandbox thing... It's just marketing for masses

The sand is there; it's the players that insist on everything being the same.

Take for example your archetypal fits. These are actually just one of many potential fittings for any given ship, but the players insist they are the best and only fit for any given ship. This is primarily because they have worked out tactics and strategy around these fits and are comfortable with there value in a Fleet.

The fact that a change to the Fleet formation and expected capabilities of any particular ship, with planning for that change in how battles are engaged and won may make another fitting perfectly viable is a moot point. To change one fit, means changing how battles are fought; in many cases, on both sides of a particular conflict. It also means that the ships used will need to be changed, as well as how other ships in that Fleet are fit.

It is much less complicated to have a standard cookie cutter fit for each ship and make up the fleet based on that. Capabilities are known, fits are proven, and everything is predictable.

That is a player restriction. People don't even allow you to experiment with fits anymore. It is expected that Fleet members will train for, fit, and fly the ships their respective Corporations and Alliances have presented them with. There is not a great amount of flexibility here, and it amounts to what you do on your own time being generally acceptable unless you are making the rest of them look bad.

Balance with respect to the various ship classes and factions is required on the other hand. Having some ships that excel in a given category mean they will be the only ones used. The above restrictions will become even less flexible, and Fleet members will then be required to fly only these ships. The balance in the ship types itself, gives greater variety in game as they become acceptable to use.

Condescending doesn't mean diplomatic.

McDonalds. I've been to this franchise all over the planet and pretty much it is the same. Unless you are in some crap hole that only serves a Big Felafel Meal Deal you could be in the same McDonalds pretty much anywhere.

Welcome to EVE. A homogeneous meh where a bit of eye candy and a few tweaked attributes aside you are in the exact type of place as every other drone doing exactly the same thing.

Every item or service is available a couple of jumps away. Everyone is as equally good at doing pretty much the same things. Technology is just that little bit different in minor ways, but they are effectively the same.

With some minor distribution aside anything relevant and meaningfully in the game is on everyone's doorstep. Need a particular item? It's likely to be right where you need it or a few jumps to Jita. The mechanics are challenge-less. Anything you will want to quickly do is just a training queue away. Choices are meaningless. The question is only how many diminishing returns you want to invest your time in.

Combat should be dynamic, but you have pretty much all the pieces on the board when you get there. Once the archetypal fits are known, the outcome is a close second.

Why the CCP obsessive compulsiveness with balance? Where is the chaos? Where is the choice?

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Billions of people in the known universe and there is no innovation - Why does every ship have to be so uniform with minor tweaking of accepted fits? Why donGÇÖt they all have subsystems to foster innovation? Or even the ability to re-assign slots?

Systems strewn across the galaxy and there is no randomness of space GÇô Why are resources effectively equal? Why arenGÇÖt some other parts of the galaxy more ore rich? Why not some with ice? Why has scarcity not invigorated trade or warfare?

Where is the specialisation? - Why is everyone equally good at refining? Why is everyone equally good at manufacturing?

A dynamic universe is a healthy universe. I see thousands of worlds where people are running numbers at the margins like ten thousand others. The few who have found a way to differentiate or who can meta game are Kings.

I say, we should unleash the chaos and if required the madness.

CCP - pour in the sand.

All sandboxes have boundaries, otherwise all you have is a desert.

You need tools, and a working framework in place before you can do your own thing... otherwise you have nothing to work with.

Why do ppl even bother to post crap like this... Why dont just leave in silence?
If you dont like EVE go back to things that will match your personality like sucking your thumb, feeding pidgeons, fishing or playing WoW

Because they CAN ? Where are you living ? IN CHINA ? Maybe you dont understand idea of internet ? Free speech ? Freedom ? Sounds familiar ? or not ?

Combat should be dynamic, but you have pretty much all the pieces on the board when you get there. Once the archetypal fits are known, the outcome is a close second.

Why the CCP obsessive compulsiveness with balance? Where is the chaos? Where is the choice?

McDonalds. I've been to this franchise all over the planet and pretty much it is the same. Unless you are in some crap hole that only serves a Big Felafel Meal Deal you could be in the same McDonalds pretty much anywhere.

Welcome to EVE......

SandBox games are only as Boring as you make them. Simple as that.

Very poor work.