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Astorothe	Posted - 2005.03.29 00:52:00 - [1] Edited by: Astorothe on 29/03/2005 00:53:26 So far EVE has been a fairly solo experience for me, though I confess that Im barely 10 hours into gameplay. Is there any RP (though I realise Eve is not specifically a RP game) and group interactions as you get more involved in the game? _______________________________________________ If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes.
Bagdh Dearg	Posted - 2005.03.29 01:00:00 - [2] Im not a roleplayer but Ill give you a brief run down of what I know of from EVE news. 1.The Minmatar-Amarrian Conflict:This is over slavery and generally involves getting slaves to be freed and other such under handed dealings on both sides. 2.The Caldari-Gallentee Situation:This is a conflict of words over the Gallentee occupation of Caldari Prime,The Caldari home world which resides in Gallentee space.Not as active as the above. 3.Jovians:Not active in comparison to the others but has had some events. If ya want to know alot about the back story Id go through the EVE Chronicles and you'll get a good overview of the written backstory and lay the foundations for the events occuring in game(Such as the theft of the Amarr Cross) Also there is a RP section to the forums so I suppose check there also. _______________________________________________ An tÚ nach bhfuil lßidir nÝ folßir d¾ bheith glic -He who is not strong must be crafty
Leno	Posted - 2005.03.29 01:09:00 - [3] Yes but mostly notably the CVA (AMARR) vs. Ushra'khan (MINMITAR). There is star fraction who are just anti-territorial alliance and stuff. BTW all 3 groups are alliances and SF has no limmits on who can join (i.e race wise) --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Ardor	Posted - 2005.03.29 01:44:00 - [4] If you are talking about roleplayers dont forget the many pirate corps. Even if they would not agree with me they are the real hardcore roleplayers. Most of them are speaking their own language which is hard to understand for outsiders. I wish Minmatar/Amarr roleplayers could create their own languages, too.
Atandros	Posted - 2005.03.29 01:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Leno star fraction who are just anti-territorial alliance and stuff. No Star Fraction FAQ (though I think Manifesto is a more fitting term) Quote: SF has no limmits on who can join (i.e race wise) Yes.
Jaydom	Posted - 2005.03.29 02:06:00 - [6] CVA is a paramilitary organization for the Amarr empire - they rp pretty nice..well at least I think they do..considering I dont rp :)
Graelyn	Posted - 2005.03.29 04:36:00 - [7] Plenty of RP to be found. You just have to dig a bit. :) While they're great folks, CVA are not the only Amarr RP to be found, as folks are finally realizing. May I present the three A's. Amarria Auxilia (AmAx) Aeternus Crusade Auctoritan Syndicate These are the Amarr Skirmisher Fleets, all RP organisations. Best of luck with your future career. Minister - Public Affairs AEGIS MILITIA ATCR Forums
Gakbug	Posted - 2005.03.29 04:43:00 - [8] What are the big Caldari roleplaying corps? http://netbux.org/?r=155833 Get paid to search using google.
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.03.29 04:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Gakbug What are the big Caldari roleplaying corps? Drink Starsi. ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun!
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.03.29 05:45:00 - [10] Originally by: Nero Scuro Originally by: Gakbug What are the big Caldari roleplaying corps? Drink Starsi. Caldari RP is a bit of a joke. For proper RP you need a nemesis, and no Gallente RP corp of note currently exists. That and the fact that two many Caldari "RPers" just rave blankly about Caldari Prime, and act like general loons. The average Caldari is a Deteis business man, not a Civrie warrior. --------------------------------------------------
Graelyn	Posted - 2005.03.29 06:03:00 - [11] If I had the time I would make a Caldari char ASAP. Drink Starsi is all there really is on that side right now, but that means there is a serious gap to be filled. Whomever takes up that torch will be...umm....like, the torchbearer. Seriously. The demand is there. Minister - Public Affairs AEGIS MILITIA ATCR Forums
Herko Kerghans	Posted - 2005.03.29 06:47:00 - [12] Originally by: theRaptor Caldari RP is a bit of a joke. For proper RP you need a nemesis, and no Gallente RP corp of note currently exists. That and the fact that two many Caldari "RPers" just rave blankly about Caldari Prime, (...) Hum... note that you kindda jumping on the same wagon Raptor... Why does the nemesis have to be Gallente? Even if you want to RP the Caldari Prime issue, before the Gallentes come the 3 internal Caldari factions. That alone opens a lot of questions on "why" and "how" to go back to Caldari Prime (and of course you may be a Caldari not interested in Caldari prime at all!). What about a nice Suukuvesta-vs-Ishukone showdown? Plus, Caldaris can take side on the Amarr-Minmatar conflict. Why wouldn't them? Even though there are suggestions that the State hiddenly supports the Amarr, as a Caldari you could very well be anti-slavery. Just a few thoughts. Originally by: Graelyn If I had the time I would make a Caldari char ASAP. evil grin He he heeee... almost there... just a little push... types furiously --------- The Snow and the Dragon (Caldari children's Tale)
Grimwalius d'Antan	Posted - 2005.03.29 09:01:00 - [13] However, 99% of EVE is pointless corp names, pathetic alt characters and poor grammar. With all the backstory and locations, EVE has insane potential for roleplay, but as with most things in life it is the people that wastes it. Damn I hate being terrestial...
Herko Kerghans	Posted - 2005.03.29 09:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan However, 99% of EVE is pointless corp names, pathetic alt characters and poor grammar. Weeeellll... maybe 99% is a bit too high... 94-95% maybe?? Perhaps you should join those few and lead by example? --------- The Snow and the Dragon (Caldari children's Tale)
Jakk Graiseach	Posted - 2005.03.29 10:36:00 - [15] Originally by: theRaptor Caldari RP is a bit of a joke. For proper RP you need a nemesis, and no Gallente RP corp of note currently exists. That and the fact that two many Caldari "RPers" just rave blankly about Caldari Prime, and act like general loons. The average Caldari is a Deteis business man, not a Civrie warrior. Rappy makes a good point here - apart from the Gallente bit.. I'm happy for us to take on the Caldari 'state' anytime they think they need an enemy. To the original poster: I RP a caldari 'dissenter' which is why I play in Star Fraction. SF does have a whole Corp of Caldari RPers too (Omerta Syndicate). There's also Dev Larren's Caldari Navy, and that new Corp that started up as Caldari RPers (Parthena Elandra "Artemia Enterprises") The Caldari RP alliance will exist in 4 weeks or so as soon as the people who are founding it have trained the skills up enough. Dig deeper for real Caldari RP - forget the 'state', look at the internal politics between the 3 factions. There is no 'unified policy' in Caldari and there is no 'official' support for war with the Gallente. Like another poster said, people need to actually READ the chronicles in the backstory then they might understand what's going on better. -- All accounts cancelled - have fun guys
Sammira	Posted - 2005.03.29 10:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Gakbug What are the big Caldari roleplaying corps? ( Several of the Caldari RP corps out there are working on getting a Caldari RP alliance running as seen here. There have been a couple set backs but we're looking at being up and running within 3 weeks. As for individual corps: Drink Starsi. of/c Omerta Syndicate of Star Fraction are the more well known ones, but there is also: Caldari Independent Navy Reserve* (joining the Caldari alliance afaik) Dead by Dawn* (joining the Caldari alliance afaik) Ouroboros Technologies * (joining the Caldari alliance afaik) Tenax Inc was, but they're in hibernation And numerous others. I tend to find ther5e are alot of solo RP'ers in corps, rather than whole corps of RP'ers and they tend to hang about in the Caldari channel along with people who generally chat there. Hopefully once things are up in runnnig in the alliance, there should be afew more corps coming out of the woodwork and we can see where to go from there. Quote: Caldari RP is a bit of a joke. For proper RP you need a nemesis, and no Gallente RP corp of note currently exists. That and the fact that two many Caldari "RPers" just rave blankly about Caldari Prime, and act like general loons. The average Caldari is a Deteis business man, not a Civrie warrior. Well, if there isn't a nemesis, perhaps this will help facilitate the creation of one? There had been afew mumblings in the summit about a new gallente union sorta thing, maybe a Caldari alliance will help get one off the ground. And anyways, the conflict doesn't have to be all out war all the time to help things along. personally I'm hoping the map changes will help facilitate some nice inter racial tension and ways to work the system through corporate struggles in which the Caldari alliance can use short-term strong arm tactics from an economic standpoint. ) Drink StarsiÖ + [DS] Haulage Production Division Caldari State Citizen
Aodha Khan	Posted - 2005.03.29 10:54:00 - [17] Join any CVA alliance corp and you'll find out. smiles So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
Sanaen Eydanwadh	Posted - 2005.03.29 11:07:00 - [18] Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan However, 99% of EVE is pointless corp names, pathetic alt characters and poor grammar. With all the backstory and locations, EVE has insane potential for roleplay, but as with most things in life it is the people that wastes it. Damn I hate being terrestial... LOL are we all that bad? /me cries
Astorothe	Posted - 2005.03.30 17:56:00 - [19] I'm avoiding joining corps for now because I really dont see any in character reason to do so. I'm really looking forward to some good old rp, and with the depth of the background and detail put into Eve, there is oodles of material to RP about. _______________________________________________ If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes.
Parthena Elandra	Posted - 2005.03.30 20:47:00 - [20] Originally by: Astorothe Edited by: Astorothe on 29/03/2005 00:53:26 Is there any RP (though I realise Eve is not specifically a RP game) and group interactions as you get more involved in the game? There are also rp-events held in the race channels by GMs - you know something's afoot when a char starts talking in coloured text and others in channel suddenly switch from discussing whether to have rice or chips with their dinner to Rp Another source would be postings in the Intergalactic Forum, though these usually concern things done rather than interactivity. However, Artemia itself did recently design a simple little interactive rp event (explorers find a can for 12 mil in an rp context) - (and to my surprise it actually worked...) Otherwise, you'll have to look for an Rp corp, as said by others. ----------------------- Artemia recruiting. RP only. Caldari pilots of the Liberal Faction and Minmatar pilots who support the Republic. Mail,Convo or join channel Arenrec between 20-22 ET if interested.
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2005.03.30 20:57:00 - [21] I think RP is pretty dead. Exactly what has changed in the current situation. Take the Amarr - Minmatar war. Whoopie, Them bunch have been fighting for, what, a year now? And they still spout exactly the same stuff at eachother. In the old days: Amarr1: "You slimy Minnie beast! Die by the hands of my Tachyon fire!" Minmatar1: "The Matari slaves shall be freed! Insert unpronouncable-corp-name-1 to the rescue!" Amarr1: "Our holy fleet shall disperse swift justice!" And currently: Amarr1: "You filthy Minnie creature! Die by the hands of my Pulse lasers!" Minmatar1: "The Matari slaves shall be set free! Insert-unpronouncable-alliance-name to the rescue!" Amarr1: "We will deliver swift death upon thee!" Wow. Interesting. Honestly though, i appreciate the efforts of certain corps to keep the RP alive, but it has all stagnated. CCP should change that. Make Minnie killable once they enter Amarr 1.0 systems by Amarr characters with X Amarr standing. ***** those agents for a reason! And for crying out loud, it's been like 9 months since them Amarr Championships. The only thing changes was the names of a bunch of moons. Big deal. /Elve New Video out! Watch me!
Selim	Posted - 2005.03.30 21:36:00 - [22] it all boils down to lack of content, and lack of imagination on the part of many RPers.
Qayos	Posted - 2005.03.30 23:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Parthena Elandra Originally by: Astorothe Edited by: Astorothe on 29/03/2005 00:53:26 Is there any RP (though I realise Eve is not specifically a RP game) and group interactions as you get more involved in the game? There are also rp-events held in the race channels by GMs - you know something's afoot when a char starts talking in coloured text and others in channel suddenly switch from discussing whether to have rice or chips with their dinner to Rp I don't think the GMs run the RP events... I think some other group does that. (Correct me if I'm wrong here though). As for RP in EVE, I'd love to see more of it. I've tried to RP before, but people just get confused until I tell them I am RPing and then they think it's stupid and tell me to stop it and just play the game etc... (and here I thought RPing WAS playing the game)
Ardor	Posted - 2005.03.31 00:10:00 - [24] Elve Sorrow, listen to me, CEO of the <insert unpronouncable-corp-name>, your words are the truth. There are still a lot of things happening: Tal-Romon, Khumaak, Tetrimon etc. I really hope it will stay this way. I would dislike to see amarrians ally with the minnies for 2 month to fight Caldari and after that ally with the Gallente to fight the Minnies and so on. Of course I would appreciate to see some ingame changes like your idea with the standings or to be able to fight over territory and see the map changing. I really do believe this will happen one day far away in future. We have the first signs that this will happen one day: POS. The problem is we dont have the patience to wait for all this. The enthusiasm of our first days is gone. Now we have the experience that CCP is slow. Nothing will change 'soon'.
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2005.03.31 00:23:00 - [25] Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 31/03/2005 00:24:54 Hey, all im saying is that in the last year, not a single thing has changed RP wise. Not a single event by CCP had ANY effect on the game whatsoever. All the events you mention are, err, dead. Last Tetrimon even was, what, 2 months ago? And neither of the three have any significance whatsoever. I know that a part of the RP community is trying to keep things rolling, but in my opinion, nothing has changed. You shoot the same people, in the same systems, at the same times. No fun. POS are no way to affect the map. They might be, the moment they can be taken down by a reasonable force. Which they simply cant. CCP admitted doing this on purpose, and i see where they're coming from, but it's been a while. Things couldve been changed, adjusted. As for Minnies allying with Amarr. No, i wouldnt want to see that happen. What i would like to see if Gallente starting to help the Minnies. Caldari starting to help the Amarr. Caldari starting to fight Gallente. The list goes on. ] Then there's the part about dynamical fighting ofcourse. It's my firm believe that once in a while, regions should just be a free-for-all for certain races and standings. Like i said in my first post, if i got a 8.0 Amarr standing (I dont) and im flying in Amarr, i want to be able to shoot Minnies with an 8.0 standing towards Minnies. And sure, they can fire back - once i have fired. Same the other way around ofcourse. Having some lame Navy NPCs shout "Enemy of the state has entered XXX territory, prepare to meet your maker!" simply doesn't cut it. EDIT: As for the Amarr - Minnie conversation i made up...I saw those things being shouted at the other side in local. I see the same things being said now. Ofcourse, im exagerating. (God i cant ever spell that right!?) Quite alot. But it's meant to be semi-funny. /Elve New Video out! Watch me!
Van Cleef	Posted - 2005.03.31 00:32:00 - [26] Originally by: theRaptor Caldari RP is a bit of a joke. For proper RP you need a nemesis, and no Gallente RP corp of note currently exists. That and the fact that two many Caldari "RPers" just rave blankly about Caldari Prime, and act like general loons. The average Caldari is a Deteis business man, not a Civrie warrior. Not quite. I recently joined CAIN, which is a Caldari RP corp. Mind you I am NOT a spokeman for CAIN, but there isn't a Nemesis per se, but rather for the advancement of Caldari People. What that means is open to future progress,that doesn't neccessarily mean the capture of Caldari Prime, it could be advancement of the people through aggressive trade deals, securing profitable market standing - whatever helps our people. Right now we run missions, and try and help out those that we can. I am just here to help out other Caldaris and make sure that the nation as a whole thrives, I really don't care if it is at the expense of the other nations, but I don't plan on going out of my way to hurt them. ------------------------------------------------ Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM
Ardor	Posted - 2005.03.31 00:34:00 - [27] Please dont get me wrong. I wholeheartly agree with you. There is only one mistake in your postings. Its not only 1 year, its since the very beginning. I will stay here and wait for the game I once foolishly expected 2 years ago. I have to admit, with all the downsides of eve, its still the best game available.
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2005.03.31 00:40:00 - [28] Roleplay was around back in beta, and in all honesty it was more fun then. Shooting at eachother in Punishers > Shooting eachother with Apocs. /Elve New Video out! Watch me!
Jaabaa Prime	Posted - 2005.03.31 01:00:00 - [29] Originally by: Astorothe Edited by: Astorothe on 29/03/2005 00:53:26 So far EVE has been a fairly solo experience for me, though I confess that Im barely 10 hours into gameplay. Is there any RP (though I realise Eve is not specifically a RP game) and group interactions as you get more involved in the game? Sht stirring question from an alt?? If not, then your 10 hours .... [list=] Slavery is a approved in some areas Drugs are a approved in some areas Mining high level ores is a approved in some areas (as long as contolling alliance approves) Trading, pretty much naff Killing, lawless 0.0 can be fun, not if you are on the recieving end Killing, empire 0.0 >= 0.4, (there are 0.0 empire bits of space), lot of wanna be rat packs that haunt gates and will pod you. (CCP mistakte to make it this way and Zombie f*k up exploiting to make it happen) [/list=] The RP aspect of EVE has currently been in a state of denial. With every race being allowed to enter the "Caldari Races" and only Amarr being allowed to enter their little showdown (a few amarr got planets/moons named after them, go figure). Currently there have been no such Minmatar or Gallente events declared by the people in charge. (BTW the winners of the other 2 events were awarded Navy/Imperial class ships as a reward). After 2 years I still await that Minmatar and Gallente have a comperable competition. History will probably prove me right, the Amarrs got the 1st bonus, the Minnies the last, guess who get's the T3 fifth ?? -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
Van Cleef	Posted - 2005.03.31 02:26:00 - [30] Originally by: Elve Sorrow Roleplay was around back in beta, and in all honesty it was more fun then. Shooting at eachother in Punishers > Shooting eachother with Apocs. How very true, the forums were much more alive back then. Sadly, there aren't many people left from those days, much less corps that did it. The total lack of particpation of CCP in the RP storyline is what I blame. ------------------------------------------------ Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM

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