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Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
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Posted - 2012.10.25 05:33:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:I thought PLEX was US $14.95?
Is $20.00 an exchange difference?
(I don't buy them so I don't know) PLEX are converted from 60-day Time Codes which typically cost around $35.
Slightly more expensive than a 30-day subscription. |
D4mane
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.10.25 05:59:00 -
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Since we already have Slaves , in addition to food we would need some whips to increase production.
Also, as we are delving deeper into reality, if we eat and drink I suppose a LATRINE would be in order? I'm sitting in my captains quarters holding it since INCARNA.
If you are a male, the problem is somewhat resolved, since you can co to the captains quarters balcony from where you see the ship and ... admire... the abyss. |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
482
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Posted - 2012.10.25 06:15:00 -
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D4mane wrote:Since we already have Slaves , in addition to food we would need some whips to increase production. Also, as we are delving deeper into reality, if we eat and drink I suppose a LATRINE would be in order? I'm sitting in my captains quarters holding it since INCARNA. If you are a male, the problem is somewhat resolved, since you can co to the captains quarters balcony from where you see the ship and ... admire... the abyss.
Le Lack of Latrine has been discussed in recent times. Our pods must be veritable cesspits.
Regular podding by health authorities on the grounds that you stink?
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
1968
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Posted - 2012.10.25 06:37:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:But I'd just like to point out that CCP has managed to assign 2 values to your invaluable game time:
1) $14.95 for 30 days....
2) $20.00 or 550 mil isk for the same 30 days....
That only apportions value to the right to access the game, not the hours you spend in the game. If I spend more hours in the game than you, my hours are costing me fewer dollars each than your hours of game play are costing you.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
D4mane
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.25 07:01:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:D4mane wrote:Since we already have Slaves , in addition to food we would need some whips to increase production. Also, as we are delving deeper into reality, if we eat and drink I suppose a LATRINE would be in order? I'm sitting in my captains quarters holding it since INCARNA. If you are a male, the problem is somewhat resolved, since you can co to the captains quarters balcony from where you see the ship and ... admire... the abyss. Le Lack of Latrine has been discussed in recent times. Our pods must be veritable cesspits. Regular podding by health authorities on the grounds that you stink?
Better yet, snowball launchers ammunition?
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.10.25 18:20:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:ISD Cura Ursus wrote:
Now my work time has a real value....whatever the market will bear. This is a different thing.
Eve is a game, and as such, I cannot put a price on the time I spend in the game.
Valid point is valid. But I'd just like to point out that CCP has managed to assign 2 values to your invaluable game time: 1) $14.95 for 30 days.... 2) $20.00 or 550 mil isk for the same 30 days.... How you choose to value those 30 days is up to you. Allot like your annual leave then...
Nope, as another person pointed out that is my "gate fee" to pass through the gates into the amusement park.
How I spend my time, be it riding a ride or sitting on a bench watching people go by neither increases nor decreases my gate fee.
Thus you cannot look at that as a valuation of my play time.
ISD Cura Ursus
Ensign
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2012.10.25 18:29:00 -
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1. IV through my veins by replicator, it never ends.
2. robots, in the future there are robots manufacturing stuff. |
Geligdio Khan
JD Mining Industry
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Posted - 2012.10.25 20:24:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:
They set up the sell order and - wait - some &%$@ so-and-so has undercut prices! You go back to your spreadsheet, jiggle and wriggle some more, trying to squeeze out every last drop of isk.
And you STILL can't compete.
Obviously, the first thought is the game is broken, CCP fix this, balance that, reward/risk ratio is out, highsec needs to be nerfed, 0.0 needs to pull their heads in and away we go. Argument, angst, forum PvP, you name it.
But wait....
TL:DR & Q: >> If we put a REAL cost on TIME would half the "problems" in Eve be as good as fixed?
So what you are saying is "no the game isn't broken but it does need fixing?" Sounds like a strange argument to me.
Personally I would like to see a fix built on sound principles, such as risk and reward, rather than an ad hoc solution to something you decalre yourself is a problem.
Industry is too easy, industrialists think High Sec is the best place for it, they are wrong, it's holding them back. Better to make more profit as a boss in an obscure part of the galaxy than none as High Sec Carebear 104,006.
Set yourselves free, call for the great Nerf, let the game breathe again.
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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
487
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Posted - 2012.10.25 20:55:00 -
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Geligdio Khan wrote:
So what you are saying is "no the game isn't broken but it does need fixing?" Sounds like a strange argument to me.
Personally I would like to see a fix built on sound principles, such as risk and reward, rather than an ad hoc solution to something you decalre yourself is a problem.
Industry is too easy, industrialists think High Sec is the best place for it, they are wrong, it's holding them back. Better to make more profit as a boss in an obscure part of the galaxy than none as High Sec Carebear 104,006.
Set yourselves free, call for the great Nerf, let the game breathe again.
Actually, if you've been following any of the threads lately you'll see that I have asked "what problem" - 10,000 times. The calls for yet another AD HOC fix to a non-problem concern me.
And really, YOUR solution is an option but you're ignoring the personality of most highsec industrialists - who incidentally are not the ones whining anyway. Being Carebear #104,006 may be just what they want to be.
Something that no nullseccer can be bothered to reconcile because they're too busy being NullZealot #110,124.
The problem (for THEM) is when NullZealots try to be NullBears instead of just manning up and saying they're CareBears and have done with it.
Being a [insert tough person adjective here] CareBear is too much of an oxymoron for them. It's overloading their capacitors.
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Geligdio Khan
JD Mining Industry
16
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Posted - 2012.10.25 21:34:00 -
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But you yourself just posted this thread asking for a fix.
Don't you need a problem to need a fix?
Nerf High Sec! It has to be done. -áHere's why.
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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
488
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Posted - 2012.10.25 21:36:00 -
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Geligdio Khan wrote:
But you yourself just posted this thread asking for a fix.
Don't you need a problem to need a fix?
Yes. and no. Err.... maybe. wat?
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Lord Zim
1854
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Posted - 2012.10.25 22:41:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:And apparently, fixing 0.0 indy by crippling highsec industry
Suggestions have been to tweak hisec industry, not crippling it. Stop fearmongering like a republican.
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
488
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Posted - 2012.10.25 22:48:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:And apparently, fixing 0.0 indy by crippling highsec industry Suggestions have been to tweak hisec industry, not crippling it. Stop fearmongering like a republican.
Wish you guys would make up your mind.
A little while ago, in a far off thread, I was a communist.
Now I'm a Republican.....
/me goes looking for a passport so he can become a Socialist Republican.
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2664
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Posted - 2012.10.26 00:17:00 -
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Came expecting an uninteresting, pointless thread.
Left pleasantly disappointed.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Jace Errata
AirHogs
Zulu People
288
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:12:00 -
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Regarding production while offline...you do know it's not us doing the production, right? We're giving a bunch of NPC workers and factory drones a blueprint and appropriate materials, and setting them to work.
Regarding food costs...haha, what? Our capsules automatically provide synthesized/recycled nutrients, made from stuff that people probably pay us to get rid of.
Regarding ship fuel: starships in EVE have run on infinite (presumably cold fusion or antimatter) power for...let's say a very long time. Why would we suddenly switch to a less efficient power source? Also, this would make long-distance travel even more mind-numbingly tedious than it already is, because then you'd have to stop mid-trip for fuel instead of just doing something more interesting between jumps for half an hour.
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Evelyn Meiyi
Meiyi Family Holdings
56
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:26:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:
i) Fees payable to be IN a system - escalating as security get's higher? (Concord protection tax?)
ii) Food, drink etc.
iii) Fuel for ships.
iV) ATK production. Not there, nothing happens.
I'd like any kind of 'system tax' to be player-imposed. That would make holding a given system more meaningful in the long term, with corps fighting over valuable real estate, or choking off heavily-used trade routes.
The food issue...yes, and no. Yes, in that it could be done with station environments, but no for two reasons: first, according to the lore,, everything is attended to in the pod via umbilical hookups (there's no need to eat or drink or....y'know...that other stuff) and also because without a meaningful station environment, we'd basically be having a private lunch in our quarters.
As for the third point (at-the-keys production), there's one major issue that would need to be addressed: changing to an at-the-keys system would mean that, in order to produce anything, the player would have to sit at the keyboard for hours on end micromanaging the entire process. I usually put a few orders on the queue and then go and run missions or attend to other orders or deliveries. |
Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
118
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:30:00 -
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Jace Errata wrote:Regarding food costs...haha, what? Our capsules automatically provide synthesized/recycled nutrients, made from stuff that people probably pay us to get rid of. I feel slightly ill now.  |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
492
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Posted - 2012.10.26 01:39:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Jace Errata wrote:Regarding food costs...haha, what? Our capsules automatically provide synthesized/recycled nutrients, made from stuff that people probably pay us to get rid of. I feel slightly ill now.
You look postively pale. You OK?
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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