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crice
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 30/03/2005 22:21:30
Not be banned on the forums? 2 years of play, and pay. Show a little love. After all I am the arch enemy of Jade and I miss the Jade posts!
Free Jade!
crice
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:22:00 -
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'not in a million years', apparently.
That, or he gets fired.
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:24:00 -
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what the heck did he do?
I seen his posts and he wasn't obnoxious or moronic or anything like that.
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crice
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:25:00 -
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I have no idea, I heard something about having a sig that was too big? Regardless... Jade brough content to eve, I myself am going on two years of being a loyal paying player of eve, and I would like to request that this ban be removed. Even jailbabes get released for good behavior.
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kieron
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:25:00 -
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That is a question I am not at liberty to discuss, nor answer. Actions that may or may not have been taken against a player will not be discussed with any third parties.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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crice
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:27:00 -
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I respect that answer, but please think about it. EVE is a tight small community and considering the time frame, this should be "water under the bridge".
Thank you for the response. I have nothing more to say on this matter.
Crice
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:27:00 -
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Jade was obviously a menace to the forums, they had to make room for all of fragm's posts.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:37:00 -
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Will posting my support to this thread get me another bad email? 
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iconoclast
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:42:00 -
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Free bad e-mail? Sign me up!
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:42:00 -
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Tbh, even though I'd be the first to flame Jade, I agree.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:46:00 -
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If Jade gets unbanned I want a few of my more absurd forum warnings removed.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:47:00 -
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I'm sure the ban was for overly lenghty posts slowing the forum and in effect the game down, CCP thought it was a DOS attack but it was merely a brief Jade rebuttal.
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Fabster
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:50:00 -
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Always liked reading Jade's post.
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
That is a question I am not at liberty to discuss, nor answer. Actions that may or may not have been taken against a player will not be discussed with any third parties.
I think you at CCP should seriously look into some of your policies. Some of them seem quite off the wall, especially regarding discussions. Why not just be reasonable people about this and not act like faceless corporate units.
I guess I'm too used to American freedom of speech and don't find any nazzi-like control behavior appealing.
/rant over
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sutty
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:50:00 -
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Aye atleast jade brought content to eve kireon....
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crice
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 30/03/2005 22:53:00
Glad to see some support out there, I am sure Jade is ROFL cause this post is by me. 
Please don't post things that would get this locked, the purpose is to show some support for fellow paying members that have been around as long as most of us.
Please be careful what you post in regards to your feelings on this matter.
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:53:00 -
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*waves to crice*
I vote for freeing jade....
Actuily im just saying hi, dont really know jade 
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Hamish
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:54:00 -
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*cough Kieron has a personal vendetta against Jade cough*
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Sebastien Janus
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Face Lifter
Originally by: kieron
That is a question I am not at liberty to discuss, nor answer. Actions that may or may not have been taken against a player will not be discussed with any third parties.
I think you at CCP should seriously look into some of your policies. Some of them seem quite off the wall, especially regarding discussions. Why not just be reasonable people about this and not act like faceless corporate units.
I guess I'm too used to American freedom of speech and don't find any nazzi-like control behavior appealing.
/rant over
ROFL no offence to America but i find that really funny 
And yes i miss Jade's ramblings too.
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:59:00 -
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Who's Jade?
Anyways, Free Jade! (i do remember this name on the forums but not much else)
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.03.30 22:59:00 -
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i've been following/playing EVE since pre-alpha (Second Genesis Syndicate anyone? :)) and i have to say Jade getting banned on a series of seriously petty issues is one of the most absurd things i've seen the entire time i've been around.
It's something that should be rectified, Jade is one of EVE's most original, and influential players.
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Argon
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Posted - 2005.03.30 23:03:00 -
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Unsurprisingly (given my corp ^^) I fully support the idea of Jade getting access (even if it is some form of restricted posting access, say to the IC boards only) again to these forums to participate (and, knowing Jade, generate) discussion and debate.
I think even those who donĘt like Jade have to admit that Jade bought a lot to this part of the game, and clearly spent a lot of time crafting communications for the community to read, appreciate, disagree with, debate and sometimes flame. I certainly miss Jade's presence here, and I think these forums are a blander place without one of our more exuberant (and 'intelligent') participants.
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.03.30 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Raem Civrie on 30/03/2005 23:20:37
Originally by: Face Lifter
Originally by: kieron
That is a question I am not at liberty to discuss, nor answer. Actions that may or may not have been taken against a player will not be discussed with any third parties.
I think you at CCP should seriously look into some of your policies. Some of them seem quite off the wall, especially regarding discussions. Why not just be reasonable people about this and not act like faceless corporate units.
I guess I'm too used to American freedom of speech and don't find any nazzi-like control behavior appealing.
/rant over
*COUGH, COUGH, PATRIOT ACT*
But yeah. Jade supposedly got banned for not only her forum posts themselves, but rather the content therein... the whole "flaming" border was crossed several times. Sure, she went overboard with rhetoric, but a flame is a flame even if you don't use the magical four letter f-word in every other sentence.
In any case, the moderation policies need an overhaul. They apparently were initially set in place by a community manager who got it in his/her head that the forums contained alot of pre-teens. 
Also, the forum "profanity" filter needs to be removed. When words like "*****ble" (fit + table) and "*****" ( A partial split or break; a fissure. Also means a variety of other things, making it one of the more versatile words in the english language).
What's up with that? One of the previous examples gets blocked because it's synonymous for a woman's genitalia in Swedish. The other one because it's a slang for being a mixed narcotic. How ridiculous can it get? I know you fixed*****pit, but with one of the words forming "cockpit" being a rather common slangword for male genitalia and regularly used to insult people, it was at least understandable.
Also, I've had to change the way I spell snicker (instead of snig-ger, because it's a derogatory word over black people, PLUS THE LETTER S! Heinous).
Apparently, the word "cockpit" is only tolerable if it immediately follows quotation marks. GOOD JOB!
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Aphoxema G
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Posted - 2005.03.30 23:15:00 -
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I've looked over the terms of service, over the forum rules, over everything I can... and I really am not sure if even replying to this thread is against any rules or anything.
So, in this reply... I'll follow every rule I'm sure of. CCP/ISD's done me no wrong, they've only provided me an entertaining enviroment to involve myself in at an affordable price. I don't share the complaints alot of people have, I try to look at all the problems through developers eyes.
No matter what the cost, though, my allegience is always to the people that have shown me their own lives first, who've accepted me and drawn me into their own circles.
The only reason I try to follow any rules or guidelines set forth by moderators is because I already agree with most of them... My first concern is always an individual, it's always the person at the other end of the server. I'm not out to be better than anyone, I'm not out to 'Win EVE', I'm here for communion.
I have found Jade, in and out of character, totally agreeable in the short time I've known her. I wouldn't be surprised if she were a little vulger or short, but I'd just as soon expect her to apologize for it if she saw any wrong.
I have to look at the situation from a completely ambiguous perspective, I can't say what Jade did in public and it IS in Kieron's and everyone else's best interests to NOT discuss anything private aloud in ANY situation... I've learned a very long time ago that these things really are best left in the dark by default, and Kieron's being a Good Moderator by respecting that, no matter what his own reasons are for it.
I will say, though, that no crime should be left inexcusable. Every lesson can be learned if given long enough... I don't know how long Jade's been banned, but I think it would be wrong to just dismiss a pinnacle character in the EVE world (note the recent article on the Player News Center). I believe she should be confronted privately, negotiated, and allowed to resume her posts on the forums on a temporary probation.
If no one gave me the chance to learn from my mistakes, I wouldn't be typing this right now.
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.03.30 23:16:00 -
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I hate the Patriot Act btw :-/
I guess I'm a liberal. But lets keep US politics out of this. Make room for EVE politics! I call for reelection of CCP officials to bring back Jade!
j/k
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kieron
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Posted - 2005.03.30 23:22:00 -
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As I stated before, I am not at liberty to discuss actions that may or may not have been taken against another player with any third parties.
Actions taken against a player are not reversed unless it is determined a mistake was made by the staff involved. Each permanent action taken against a player; forum, game or both, are reviewed before the action is taken to make sure that mistakes are not made.
I am well aware of the actions taken by some members of the community to have game bans reversed, posting privileges restored, etc. In some of these cases, the actions of CCP or GM staff have been distorted or presented in such a way as to cast doubt on CCP decisions and policies. Since CCP does not make statements regarding the course of action and decision making steps taken, it is easy to lay blame at the feet of the company or claim "personal vendettas", etc.
This is also one of the reasons why discussion of moderation, GM actions, etc. are not allowed on the forums. Having said that, I'm locking the topic.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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