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Borascus
Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.22 19:34:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Anslo wrote:But what about all the previously functioning star ships, stations, cities, etc. The Eve Gate explosion couldn't wipe out every single ship and station and city for a few light years, could it?
But when I think about it, if the ships broke or something like that, or a station's manufactory stops working...well, I guess then you're done. It would take a few years but yeah, I see your point now. That depends on how well they were able to set themselves up, and what kind of technology they had to begin with - I'm seeing a lot of assumptions that there were any stations or cities at all, when it could have just as likely been basic settlements still establishing themselves with old technology. The ships wouldn't have to be broken, they just have to run out of the resources needed to run them, and without those resources from earth, new ones would have to be harvested in new eden to accomplish the task. That would take time. Over time, ships would stop travelling and the colonies would gradually forget one another existed.
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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.11.22 20:26:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote: Fortunately, your cynicism is not a case against a good story, but it is a pretty good defence against poor comprehension, because it explains your ignorance based on your sheer desire for something to complain about - but you missed the part where I didn't say there were no resources in New Eden, but rather, the settlers would have been ill equipped to harvest them for some time.
That's assumption, not extrapolation.
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Rachel Silverside
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Flatline.
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Posted - 2012.11.23 12:24:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:What a lot of people don't remember about the collapse of the EVE Gate when they're done reading is that it didn't just close.
It collapsed violently, and almost obliterated the entire system of New Eden with an enormous release of energy that decimated most of what was originally there, including most of the settlers. It's reasonable to assume that the sheer amount of energy released could have destroyed or fried a lot of the electronics for several systems over once they were hit with the blast wave.
The major issue I have with this is that most modern day military equipment and some factory equipment is protected against EMPs to the point where people are more likely to suffer injury than the equipment.
My totally made up explanation is that the collapse of the EVE gate was incredibly damaging to the underlying structure of the universe and temporarily tweaked the laws of physics. This tweaking pretty much destroyed all of the equipment brought along with the colonists* and guaranteed the collapse of society as pretty much no one knew how to build anything more advanced than pointy sticks**.
*I'm talking about ludicrously advanced stuff like quantum computers, self replicating smart matter etc. Basic/incredibly rugged things like automated terraformers could survive (mostly) as the companies that bought them could have been too poor to buy the much weaker but much more advanced models. To put it simply, stuff that hasn't been built yet/ requires certain conditions in universe to work is fine for you to break. Stuff that's well understood however isn't, as it'd be pretty easy for someone to explain how it'd destroy the universe/kill every human.
**this is what happens when most of your mind is stored on a hard drive and it breaks. |

Arcaus Rotrau Romali
Liquid Lucifer Industries
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Posted - 2012.11.23 16:02:00 -
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I think it was John Galt. |

Esna Pitoojee
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
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Posted - 2012.11.25 04:38:00 -
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Rachel Silverside wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Snipped for brevity.
Also snipped for brevity.
Problem is that modern day electronics are shielded against human nuclear devices. The EVE gate explosion was a cosmic event, likely on the scale of a nova or supernova, unimaginably more powerful than anything we've set off before. |

Borascus
Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.25 08:45:00 -
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I think the rammifications of the EVE Gate collapse are being amplified in this thread.
Colonies existed on hundreds of worlds, this lowered over time, after more than 8000 years there were at least 12 individual survivor colonies of note, and hundreds more colonies that blend into the background population. Ealur survived for example.
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Davith en Divalone
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.25 20:15:00 -
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The "canon" history is history according to the four "empires." Other civilizations including the Sleepers and the Jove apparently recovered faster.
The loss and rediscovery of advanced technology over thousands of years makes sense when you realize how much 21st century technology is dependent on worldwide economic and manufacturing networks. Even something like ENIAC required the specialized labor of thousands of people and dozens different raw materials, which in turn, required different kinds of raw materials to process. All of this requires extremely specialized knowledge and a good source of labor. And that was just to build one prototype computer. |

Roga Dracor
Fury Lords Intergalactic Brotherhood
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Posted - 2012.11.26 17:38:00 -
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And one could also assume that while the colonies were struggling for self sufficiency, those starship crews that probably remained were looking for subsistence, along with everyone else. Fiction suggests some of these leviathon ships never made planetfall, we see the evidence of them in wreckage.. They would be struggling for resources, too. The will to survive has been mentioned. How they might have managed is easily imagined. It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.
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