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Val'Dore
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Posted - 2012.11.01 02:06:00 -
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I think ECM should stop being a Caldari specialization. Rather each race should have ECM bonuses for their racial enemy's ships:
Minmatar get Radar ECM bonuses
Gallente get Gravimetric ECM bonuses
Caldari get Megnetometric ECM bonuses
Amarr get Ladar ECM bonuses
As for the other forms of EW, simply give each race a different way to make use of it:
Caldari: EW Optimal (not ECM)
Gallente: EW Cap Use
Amarr: EW Duration
Minmatar: EW Falloff
This would affect all TP, RSD, TDs, etc.
ECM would have similar bonuses on all current EW ships.
This makes ECM less about spamming Falcons and more about actual tactical target counter jamming
The only major change to ships needed for this to work is a remastery of the Scorpion. Ideas on how to handle that are many. My thought is make it like the old Typhoon with 8 hi slots, and a hybrid damage bonus and a missile RoF bonus 4/4 turret/launcher split. Remove two midslots. Increase fittings 40%.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2012.11.03 02:30:00 -
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Risien Drogonne wrote:There's nothing tactical about having to put up with pure 100% chance on whether your ship can ever contribute to the fight or not. "Tactical" implies meaningful choice and adaptation, not showing up in the wrong ship that can't contribute at all.
ECM has already been nerfed. It's fine.
Showing up in the wrong ship that can never contribute... isn't that statement the antithesis of what I proposed? The idea here is to stop one ship from being the correct choice 99.9875% of the time. There is a reason that the Caldari EW ships are several times more common than the that of the other races'. Because ECM is the universally good EW.
Target Painting can barely be considered EW, Nos/Neuting is not even a little bit EW, and Web/Scrams are as common as Multispec ECMs used to be. Tracking Disruption is not universal, though that seems to be changing. Remote Sensor Dampeners have been considered useless since they are no longer an I Win Button. But everyone still rocks the ECM and they will continue to do so until it is not the end game point conversion victory condition.
So the obvious solution is to balance ECM without 'nerfing' ECM. And the only way to do that is to have it be more situation based rather than universal.
An Electronic Warfare Paradigm Shift is the only way to move forward. Universal Jamming is no fun for anyone. I use ECM drones, and I don't care what that makes anyone think of me any more than the fleets rocking 30% Falcons do.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2012.11.03 17:05:00 -
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Risien Drogonne wrote:Val'Dore wrote:
Showing up in the wrong ship that can never contribute... isn't that statement the antithesis of what I proposed? The idea here is to stop one ship from being the correct choice 99.9875% of the time. There is a reason that the Caldari EW ships are several times more common than the that of the other races'. Because ECM is the universally good EW.
Target Painting can barely be considered EW, Nos/Neuting is not even a little bit EW, and Web/Scrams are as common as Multispec ECMs used to be. Tracking Disruption is not universal, though that seems to be changing. Remote Sensor Dampeners have been considered useless since they are no longer an I Win Button. But everyone still rocks the ECM and they will continue to do so until it is not the end game point conversion victory condition.
So the obvious solution is to balance ECM without 'nerfing' ECM. And the only way to do that is to have it be more situation based rather than universal.
An Electronic Warfare Paradigm Shift is the only way to move forward. Universal Jamming is no fun for anyone. I use ECM drones, and I don't care what that makes anyone think of me any more than the fleets rocking 30% Falcons do.
Sounds like your "solution" is to break ECM and make it useless like what happened to sensor damps.
It must be true, because you said so. How do I break ECM with my idea?
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2012.11.11 22:22:00 -
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Freundliches Feuer wrote:nerf ecm, nerf drakes, nerf tengu, NERF EVERYTHING. So then we can all go and mine.
The Drake would need a buff in that case... it has no turrets.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2012.11.17 16:00:00 -
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Iyacia Cyric'ai wrote:Val'Dore wrote:I think ECM should stop being a Caldari specialization. Rather each race should have ECM bonuses for their racial enemy's ships:
Minmatar get Radar ECM bonuses
Gallente get Gravimetric ECM bonuses
Caldari get Megnetometric ECM bonuses
Amarr get Ladar ECM bonuses
As for the other forms of EW, simply give each race a different way to make use of it:
Caldari: EW Optimal (not ECM)
Gallente: EW Cap Use
Amarr: EW Duration
Minmatar: EW Falloff
This would affect all TP, RSD, TDs, etc.
ECM would have similar bonuses on all current EW ships.
This makes ECM less about spamming Falcons and more about actual tactical target counter jamming
The only major change to ships needed for this to work is a remastery of the Scorpion. Ideas on how to handle that are many. My thought is make it like the old Typhoon with 8 hi slots, and a hybrid damage bonus and a missile RoF bonus 4/4 turret/launcher split. Remove two midslots. Increase fittings 40%. If that's the case then Sensor Damps shouldn't be a Gallante thing, Target Painting shouldn't be a Minmatar thing and Tracking Disruptors shouldn't be an Amarr thing.
That was my intention.
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