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Seriphim
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Posted - 2005.04.06 21:45:00 -
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Like I said earlier....its very easy to fool most of everybody by not getting noticed. These anomilies (FYI "they" have a name I would not mention in a forum) do exist. This knowledge dose not originate with me, so it is reliable. It is not as though I have come up with this stuff on my own.
And for those who think this is ludicrous, thats fine. Most of the people in this country would anyways. The more you think its ludicrous the more they would have no interest in directly interacting with you. Your not sensitive enough, but trust me that can be a good thing.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2005.04.06 22:54:00 -
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I'm sensitive! i was so crying when i watched Titanic, mind you! 
and tbh, i've had my share of occult study,
and you're still full of it.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.04.06 23:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Seriphim
FYI "they" have a name I would not mention in a forum
OH NOES! THEM WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111126748641352742potato.
Come clean, it's FOE isn't it? They come into your room at night and scare you 
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Thalanor
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Posted - 2005.04.07 00:09:00 -
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seriphim, im interested in this stuff, it makes interesting reading. do you have any links to any of these theories or any other documentation? eve-mail me if you dont want to post them here.
but...
Originally by: Seriphim
...Most of the people in this country...
which country do you mean?
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.07 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 07/04/2005 00:18:35
Originally by: Thalanor
seriphim, im interested in this stuff, it makes interesting reading. do you have any links to any of these theories or any other documentation? eve-mail me if you dont want to post them here.
If you google for "treatise on astral projection" you should get some good sites.
Originally by: Thalanor
Originally by: Seriphim
...Most of the people in this country...
which country do you mean?
Probably USA. Most people in other countries would not refer to their country as "this country" when using a public board.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.04.07 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphim
Like I said earlier....its very easy to fool most of everybody by not getting noticed. These anomilies (FYI "they" have a name I would not mention in a forum) do exist. This knowledge dose not originate with me, so it is reliable. It is not as though I have come up with this stuff on my own.
And for those who think this is ludicrous, thats fine. Most of the people in this country would anyways. The more you think its ludicrous the more they would have no interest in directly interacting with you. Your not sensitive enough, but trust me that can be a good thing.
Puuuuuuhhlease 
I've read my fair share of cheap books on astral projection and the netherworld tbh, and never once did I go around forums acting like Harry Potter. Trying to patronize people with this crap is kinda OLD (Literally, 20 thousand years old).
Also the fact that this "information" originated from a half-arsed book on the occult, and not from your imagination does not make it "reliable" by default. But hell, how should I know? I'm not Ghost-Sensitive enough to know if "they" exist, and if I was, I would be agreeing with you anyway. You've pretty much covered every base, except one; I'm going to roll a d20, if I get a 19, I'm Ghost Sensitive AND I think you're full of it.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.04.07 06:18:00 -
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Edited by: Discorporation on 07/04/2005 06:18:31
Originally by: Seriphim
Like I said earlier....its very easy to fool most of everybody by not getting noticed. These anomilies (FYI "they" have a name I would not mention in a forum) do exist. This knowledge dose not originate with me, so it is reliable. It is not as though I have come up with this stuff on my own.
And for those who think this is ludicrous, thats fine. Most of the people in this country would anyways. The more you think its ludicrous the more they would have no interest in directly interacting with you. Your not sensitive enough, but trust me that can be a good thing.
I-! I-! Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!!
Hehehe
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Yanclo
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Posted - 2005.04.07 10:31:00 -
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Talking about dreams....
Never happened to you that you have a s3x dream with a girl you know and...
- When you wake up you can't figure out if it was a dream or it really happened
(you even think about telling your friends "Hey you won't guess who I *** last night! "
- Next time you see her you feel kinda weird being around her (for a while at least)
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skilz
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Posted - 2005.04.07 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: skilz on 07/04/2005 22:39:17
Originally by: Scorpyn
Seriphim how much do you know about this stuff? And how/where did you learn it?
It's all made up stuff, it all can be explained scientifically without any weirdo responses making up supernatural reasons. It's simply not true, all it does is make it so people can sell you brazlian crystals and charge $40 for them. You want to impress me? How about you predict why fortune tellers are always broke-a$$ losers who dress like Gypsies?
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skilz
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Posted - 2005.04.07 22:37:00 -
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http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=astrology Refer to this if you need anything else.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.07 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: skilz
Edited by: skilz on 07/04/2005 22:39:17
Originally by: Scorpyn
Seriphim how much do you know about this stuff? And how/where did you learn it?
It's all made up stuff, it all can be explained scientifically without any weirdo responses making up supernatural reasons. It's simply not true, all it does is make it so people can sell you brazlian crystals and charge $40 for them. You want to impress me? How about you predict why fortune tellers are always broke-a$$ losers who dress like Gypsies?
You're wrong. And no I'm not gonna try to convince you or anyone else. It'd be like arguing with a wall - if you don't understand what I'm talking about there is no way you will believe me anyway so it's pointless.
The sad part is that when it comes to this stuff there are a lot of fake fortune tellers and similar around that don't know what they are doing, they are making a bad reputation for those that actually know their stuff and they make the job for the fortune telling bashers a lot easier since they can just focus on the fakes and then say that all of them are fakes.
Originally by: skilz
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=astrology Refer to this if you need anything else.
Love that site
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skilz
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Posted - 2005.04.08 00:19:00 -
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sorry I win, skilz4tw
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Valan
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Posted - 2005.04.08 01:14:00 -
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After talking to some of my shift buddies it seems sleep paralysis is fairly common. Seems shifties are prone to it. A lot of our guys are ex-forces as well who have experienced sleep paralysis when in stressful situations, where sleep is a luxury.
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skilz
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Posted - 2005.04.08 01:41:00 -
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The problem is, you have no scientific evidence to back this claim up! You probably even belive in crop circles, as well as horoscopes. I can back up the law of gravity with science, you can't backup thats ghosts are attacking you in your room because of religious figures, or whatever the flavor of the month is.
If it's too complicated for you to explain than it's above you, it doesn't mean that spirts or fairys appeared out of no where and haunted your dreams, it means you've had another anomolie happen to your body. EG: Loss of sleep, stress, etc, etc.
You probably think I'm too closed minded, but maybe you're too open minded to accept facts that aren't even true! CLOSED MINDED IS NOT A BAD THING, OPEN MINDED IS. Good luck with your brazilian crystals, and dragon hunts!
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.08 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: skilz
The problem is, you have no scientific evidence to back this claim up! You probably even belive in crop circles, as well as horoscopes. I can back up the law of gravity with science, you can't backup thats ghosts are attacking you in your room because of religious figures, or whatever the flavor of the month is.
If it's too complicated for you to explain than it's above you, it doesn't mean that spirts or fairys appeared out of no where and haunted your dreams, it means you've had another anomolie happen to your body. EG: Loss of sleep, stress, etc, etc.
You probably think I'm too closed minded, but maybe you're too open minded to accept facts that aren't even true! CLOSED MINDED IS NOT A BAD THING, OPEN MINDED IS. Good luck with your brazilian crystals, and dragon hunts!
Do I believe in the crop circles? I've seen the pictures, so they should be there, but I don't believe that they are made by aliens if that's what you mean.
Do I believe in horoscopes? Well, tbh I haven't made up my mind about that yet, but at the moment I lean more towards not believing them than to believing them. I have very little experience with horoscopes, apart from the very crappy and very general ones that are made on a day-by-day basis in the newspaper. They should remove those, since afaik even the horoscope makers themselves consider them to be crappy. I have never had anyone make me a personal horoscope based on exact date, time and location of birth, which is supposed to be the most exact ones, and until I do I will probably not be able to say whether I believe in horoscopes. (Actually to be able to tell whether they really work or not I'd have to do a lot of research on it which I cba doing.)
Some day I might be able to give you scientifically acceptable proof for at least some of the stuff, but not now. Until then I will accept that you don't believe me, I expect nothing else.
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Bandus
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Posted - 2005.04.08 19:23:00 -
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Quote:
I can back up the law of gravity with science
Do you think human beings were always able to back up gravity with science?
May I remind you that at one point in time, the Earth was flat (or so it was beleived).
I am of the belief that while there is not evidence enough to prove the existence of ghosts, UFOs, exc. There is also not enough evidence to disprove them either...
That is to say, just because it can't be proven scientificaly, doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist or that it isn't true.
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Khrystoff
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Posted - 2005.04.08 19:33:00 -
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I like how the burden of proof is always a 1 way street.
Creationists don't need to prove their beliefs because they have faith, but Evolutionists are foolish for believing in their theories even though they aren't proven with adequate proof . . . .
It's a disgustingly hypocritical game to say "WHERE's the PROOF?!?" because invariably there is something equally as unproven in your own system of beliefs.
The same thing applies here.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.09 01:21:00 -
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Our mind is based on facts. We rate these facts by how much they fit in with the other facts we have. Some facts are easy to understand and they make sense. Others you don't understand at all and they seem to be contradicting other facts, but you still believe in them as facts.
If your set of facts is strong, ie you believe in what you believe in and anything that contradicts what you currently believe in must automatically be wrong, then you are close minded. If you can accept that even fundamental truths *may* be wrong, then you are open minded. An open minded person will have less problems changing his mind about something if something that contradicts his current set of truths appears, and he will have less problems changing back to the old truths if it turns out that the new information was wrong.
Once you start arguing over something - anything really, it doesn't matter what - you are defending your current set of truths. The more defensive you get the more you will have to be persuaded to change your mind, and sometimes you will keep arguing for your old set of truths even if you realize that you are wrong or could be wrong.
When it comes to spiritual stuff, there is no point in trying to convince someone who hasn't experienced anything like it. He will never believe it, and to be honest he shouldn't believe either without proof. In all areas there are liars, and this is far from an exception. You have to get your own experiences, think them through carefully, and then decide whether you should consider changing your current set of truths or not. Something that happens could be because of something else or just be a coincidence.
I am not saying that you should believe me - not only because you should discover this stuff by yourself, but also because I may be wrong (and tbh it's also because I cba trying to convince someone who doesn't have the faintest idea what I'm talking about).
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skilz
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Posted - 2005.04.09 15:46:00 -
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Oh cool thanks for the scientific proof, I totally believe you now! Just kidding you say that gravity has just recently been proven so how could this stuff be wrong? You're right, it's all right, I can fly on a broom, dragons exist, heck if I can't prove it doesn't then it really does exist! Great! Just kidding, they don't exist you say I can't prove that horoscopes or ghosts exist, so then you say it must be true! Good luck with your brazilian crystals.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.04.09 16:04:00 -
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When it comes to spiritual stuff, there is no point in trying to convince someone who hasn't experienced anything like it. He will never believe it, and to be honest he shouldn't believe either without proof. In all areas there are liars, and this is far from an exception. You have to get your own experiences, think them through carefully, and then decide whether you should consider changing your current set of truths or not. Something that happens could be because of something else or just be a coincidence.
Right on Scorpyn. Everyone can believe what they want based on their experiences, but they shouldn't expect everyone else to agree or be "excommunicated" (A fitting term).
When they start acting like harry potter and patronizing people, thats when the respect ends.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2005.04.09 18:36:00 -
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A lot of rooms feel like they are haunted but thatŠs just that, a feeling. HereŠs what I think happened to you.
From the fact that you put a red light to set the mood I can draw the conclusion that this is not some gf or wife youŠve had for years as we all now we really stop making an effort once weŠve got laid once. I donŠt know if you have been married or had a girlfriend for a long time so I canŠt tell how used to sleeping next to a women you are but either way when sleeping with someone for the first time can be a bit uncomfortable which is probably the reason why you didnŠt sleep well. Also she could very well be talking out of her sleep or youŠve been in that uncomfortable zone between waking and sleeping.
The second night you probably were half expecting to experience something otherwordly so you did just that. Prime example of over excited imagination getting the best of you, I should know mine is way out of control so it would probably work for you to throw something religious out of the room but it won't be because it's tied to the ghost, it's because you no longer things the place is haunted.
Also it's only natural not to sleep well in places you don't often sleep in assuming you don't sleep there regularly.
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wayz
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Posted - 2005.04.11 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: wayz on 11/04/2005 12:10:16
thing that got me was there was liek 3 of them!!!
having one demonic presence watching you sleep is bad enough but 3. my dreams seem to be getting more negative and violent to since that night... this sucks
Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day!
Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe!
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wayz
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Posted - 2005.04.11 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Valan
After talking to some of my shift buddies it seems sleep paralysis is fairly common. Seems shifties are prone to it. A lot of our guys are ex-forces as well who have experienced sleep paralysis when in stressful situations, where sleep is a luxury.
yer sleep paralysis is quite a common thing, I watched a documentary on it a while back, theres actually been portraits drawn of an old woman figure sitting on someones throat to represent this as this seems to be a common hallucination during sleep paralasis, there was actually a name for her but I forget what it was.
it wasnt sleep paralysis that I had though I dont think, I actuallyu saw 3 manifestations or pure darkness just stood there watching me, kinda like guardian angels except... well the opposite.. was a pretty weird experience, I didnt actually feel that they were a danger to me at all, the were just watching me.
In fact now I think of it this has happened a few times before when I was young I think.
my m8 just thinks its funny but its not! he laughed because he had my name in his phone as satan since he got a mobile.
Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day!
Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe!
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wayz
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Posted - 2005.04.11 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: skilz
The problem is, you have no scientific evidence to back this claim up! You probably even belive in crop circles, as well as horoscopes. I can back up the law of gravity with science, you can't backup thats ghosts are attacking you in your room because of religious figures, or whatever the flavor of the month is.
If it's too complicated for you to explain than it's above you, it doesn't mean that spirts or fairys appeared out of no where and haunted your dreams, it means you've had another anomolie happen to your body. EG: Loss of sleep, stress, etc, etc.
You probably think I'm too closed minded, but maybe you're too open minded to accept facts that aren't even true! CLOSED MINDED IS NOT A BAD THING, OPEN MINDED IS. Good luck with your brazilian crystals, and dragon hunts!
hmm I actually do beleive in the paranormal to an extent in that I beleive in good and evil. To beleive in almost any religion for a start is an admittance that yes you do beleive in something more than what you can see. I mean for a start jesus, in the new testemant jesus cast out deamons on numerous occasions so to a certain extent even the bible admits that yes demons can actually cross onto our plain of existence to a certain degree
Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day!
Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe!
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.11 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: wayz
it wasnt sleep paralysis that I had though I dont think, I actuallyu saw 3 manifestations or pure darkness just stood there watching me, kinda like guardian angels except... well the opposite.. was a pretty weird experience, I didnt actually feel that they were a danger to me at all, the were just watching me.
Did they seem to be good/evil/neither? Your description makes it seem like you perceived them as evil but not really a threat?
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Troye
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Posted - 2005.04.11 19:57:00 -
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In all my life i dont think i have ever experienced anything worse than sleep paralisis, but thank fully ive only had it 4 times in total. Though there may indeed be a scientific explanation to why your body freezes up but how come every1 ive spoken to also gets a "presence" as if theres som1 else in the room with them?
this sounds rediculous but i cant get the idea out of my head that maybe its some kind of spirit trying to seize control of my body while im asleep. And you say relaxing helps but how the hell are you suposed to relax when there some wierd spirit dude standing over ur bed and ur completly paralized!
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2005.04.11 20:13:00 -
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Seriously though, if I tried to fall asleep in a room I had just 'toked' up in, I would be having weird experiences too. It's normal.
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qrac
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Posted - 2005.04.11 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: qrac on 11/04/2005 22:07:07
Edited by: qrac on 11/04/2005 22:06:37
i have suffered from sleep paralysis a lot. thankfully i haven't had one for some time.. once i even had it twice, i woke up and went back to sleep and then it struck me again. i didn't sleep in that room again until this winter (1,5 years had passed) when i was there with my gf. we had chucked out the bedsofas and gotten a big bed in that room instead and i never had any problems sleeping there again even though my cousin's husband told us about his ghost stories while he was looking for gold and my gf freaked out that night.
i thought it was the room that was causing me problems since i always felt strange when entering that room, and i thought it had to do with the room not being furnished. i suffered from sleep paralysis a couple of times before the incident where i suffered from it twice and when i didn't i had some very disturbing dreams. u guys have now scared me because me and my gf slept in one of those bedsofa's this winter because the house hadn't been warmed up and the kitchen combined livingroom was the only warm room (stove). i didn't sleep well that night.
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2005.04.11 21:48:00 -
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Speaking of paralysis in strange rooms...one time I was at a brothel (suffice it to say that it was a bit eerie there), and I had paralysis in the most disturbing of places...stiff as a board...what was I to do? Oh and the dark figure standing by watching me...that was the black hooker.
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.04.11 22:26:00 -
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anyone who wants some interesting late night reading can check this site:
(check the "ghost and hauntings" section in particular)
http://www.theshadowlands.net/
even if you're a sceptic its fun to read even if some (or most) of it is unlikely 
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