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wayz
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Posted - 2005.04.06 03:31:00 -
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Ok right does anyone have any rooms in their house that they could swear are haunted???
Theres this small room upstairs that I decided to sleep in the last 2 nights, (mainly because it has a proper comfy double be din it) last nite I had a girl round so.. for odvious reasons I just stuck a red light in the room lol
but heres the weird part, I just put it down to sleepin withe someones arms around me last night but I hardly got a wink of sleep, I kept hearing voices so I assumed she was talking in her sleep or I was liek vividly dreaming that she was talking.
Then tonight for some strange reason I decided to sleep in teh same room again, anyway I had the most vivid horrific nightmares ever! When I literally ripped myself back to conciousness I awoke to see some really scary assed dark figure looking at me (maybe liek a semi dream I dunno) Then I started to think... every time I've ever had what I'd call an out of body experience in my sleep or a serious bad dream session like that its been in that room, no other room in the house....
anyone had any experiences like that.. I mean nothing much scares me.. I kinda live a life of almost total fearlesness but that... just disturbed the hell outta me
anyone got any constructive comments????
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Seriphim
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Posted - 2005.04.06 04:07:00 -
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I have....be careful though. "they" like to attach themselves to inanimate objects. There might be something in that room "they" attach themselves to. It could be anything, but I recomend looking for something that has spiritistic over-tones, or some kind of religious value. And then...getting rid of it.
If nothing was in the room OR the house for that matter, then it could be that they actually have affiliated themselves with the room or house. They need to be affiliated with something or some reason to be there, but there co-existence with us according to reason is an enigma so dont try to understand it totally.
Try out the things I said
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Seriphim
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Posted - 2005.04.06 04:10:00 -
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If that dosent work or you have questions, then contact me via in-game.
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Valan
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Posted - 2005.04.06 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: Valan on 06/04/2005 04:51:19
I'm one of those people that can never remember having any dreams what so ever over my life time.
Except one I've had 5 times over the last few months. I'm wide awake and I cannot move, it feels as though there is a huge weight pressing down pinning me to the bed (no fat bird present btw). I can't move a muscle and it feels as though there is a presence at the end of the bed. I'm fully aware of what is going on and can remember the previous instances. So instead of freaking out like the first few times, I let it pass. The end result is always the same, light on, wide awake, bolt up right in bed.
Since i've finished my dissertation I've not had any other episodes. I put it down to stress, subconcious mind over matter. If your body is subconciously uncomfortable in that room to start with, your imagination may be getting the better of you. Thing is the more it happens, the worse it gets. Vicious psychological cycle. I have to admit, even though I know there was no one in my room still scared the crap out of me.
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Khrystoff
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Posted - 2005.04.06 04:53:00 -
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I'm dying to spend a night in a room like that (heh, lame pun - not intentional i swear!)
just to give life a little excitement, ya know? prove to myself that it isn't as boring and predictable as it may seem. that there are things i can't explain, stuff like that.
my house is, unfotunately, lame and boring and un-eventful in that regard. . . I'd even settle for a UFO sighting or anything else at all out of the ordinary. Maybe i should just resort to recreational drug use
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Seriphim
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Posted - 2005.04.06 05:01:00 -
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Valan, that exact same thing has happened to me many many times. It isint phsycologoical. But without having a totally immersed detailed discussion I will say this in a few words: "they" do not need to reveal themselves to anybody to carry out there goals unless they need to. They must have noticed something about you. Perhaps...you noticed them and they noticed that you noticed. Not many are sensitive enough to notice them on there own. Usually people who are afflicted by them through trauma are the only ones who end up noticeing.
Like I said earlier. Most of all of the time its better if people dont know they exist at all, and thats not a hard thing to do as humans minds are so easily clouded, our comprehension lost after our own birth. But, sometimes they must take measures.
I just hope they havent decided to use you as part of there own goals. That is a classic sign that they are.
But...like I said this could get detailed I would rather not have it get that way in a forum.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.04.06 05:48:00 -
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If there are 'golden-headed people' involved, then you are pretty much screwed. Have fun not getting any sleep for the next few years... 
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Ghost Red
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Posted - 2005.04.06 08:11:00 -
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I have a haunted fridge. I leave beer in it every day and when I come down stairs in the morning, there are empty beer cans in the bin, ectoplasm all over the kitchen floor and I often have a strange headache that doesn't go away for hours.
Weird.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.06 11:38:00 -
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Seriphim how much do you know about this stuff? And how/where did you learn it?
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:05:00 -
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yes good question Scorpyn, i can tell you i have some really weird dreams, but, a few mins after waking up, i dont remember a thing, it is as if my brains defines those memories as useless or dangerous and rapidly deletes them. Its very frustating. Can you cinfirm my theory? 
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Yanclo
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Posted - 2005.04.06 12:47:00 -
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I See Dead People 
(sorry I had to do it  )
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Dred 'Morte
yes good question Scorpyn, i can tell you i have some really weird dreams, but, a few mins after waking up, i dont remember a thing, it is as if my brains defines those memories as useless or dangerous and rapidly deletes them. Its very frustating. Can you cinfirm my theory?
Having difficulties remembering your dreams is normal. To be able to remember them, try having a notebook or something close to the bed and when you wake up write down the dream as good as you can. Read the notes a couple of times during the day and try to remember the dream again.
After a while you should get better at remembering your dreams.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/04/2005 13:18:49
Originally by: Valan
Edited by: Valan on 06/04/2005 04:51:19
I'm one of those people that can never remember having any dreams what so ever over my life time.
Except one I've had 5 times over the last few months. I'm wide awake and I cannot move, it feels as though there is a huge weight pressing down pinning me to the bed (no fat bird present btw). I can't move a muscle and it feels as though there is a presence at the end of the bed. I'm fully aware of what is going on and can remember the previous instances. So instead of freaking out like the first few times, I let it pass. The end result is always the same, light on, wide awake, bolt up right in bed.
Since i've finished my dissertation I've not had any other episodes. I put it down to stress, subconcious mind over matter. If your body is subconciously uncomfortable in that room to start with, your imagination may be getting the better of you. Thing is the more it happens, the worse it gets. Vicious psychological cycle. I have to admit, even though I know there was no one in my room still scared the crap out of me.
Paralysis is a common thing to happen in dreams.
Usually when you are asleep, your body's motor functions are partially disabled so that you can't damage yourself when you dream by going sleepwalking, strangling yourself etc. However, this can have an effect on your dream as your body doesn't respond as it would normally do - leading to sensations of paralysis, being weighed down, or feeling "floppy".
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Ikvar on 06/04/2005 13:20:02
Originally by: Valan
Edited by: Valan on 06/04/2005 04:51:19
I'm one of those people that can never remember having any dreams what so ever over my life time.
Except one I've had 5 times over the last few months. I'm wide awake and I cannot move, it feels as though there is a huge weight pressing down pinning me to the bed (no fat bird present btw). I can't move a muscle and it feels as though there is a presence at the end of the bed. I'm fully aware of what is going on and can remember the previous instances. So instead of freaking out like the first few times, I let it pass. The end result is always the same, light on, wide awake, bolt up right in bed.
Since i've finished my dissertation I've not had any other episodes. I put it down to stress, subconcious mind over matter. If your body is subconciously uncomfortable in that room to start with, your imagination may be getting the better of you. Thing is the more it happens, the worse it gets. Vicious psychological cycle. I have to admit, even though I know there was no one in my room still scared the crap out of me.
It's called sleep paralysis:
http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/paralysis.html
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Vistilantus
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:40:00 -
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i hate dreams where you are trying to run from soemthing or someone but your body feels heavy, legs feel like jelly and you jsut can't run at all, freaks me out 
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:56:00 -
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Wow Seriphim, you're so full of it that it made me chuckle 
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TraGix
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Posted - 2005.04.06 13:57:00 -
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"they"
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.06 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 06/04/2005 17:03:44
There are at least 2 types of "sleep paralysis" that I know of. I'll try to explain them :
1. You are awake but you are not able to tell your muscles to move. Your body is very very relaxed and heavy - it's as if you were sleeping and awake at the same time. After a while you will "tune in" and get the self-control required to move.
2. You are awake but you can't move no matter how much you try. You are paralyzed, probably afraid and you can feel electricity and/or pressure, or maybe cold (rare afaik). Something that you can feel but not control may be moving around, both inside and outside of your body. The best way that I know to "regain control" in these situations is to relax and not accept the fear (easiest way to explain what to do without going into details, should be enough though and it's easy to remember).
Originally by: Viceroy
Wow Seriphim, you're so full of it that it made me chuckle
I suppose that this kind of replies/opinions is why he doesn't want to go into details on a public board.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.04.06 14:18:00 -
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Lol, Viceroy comments FTW yet again
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.06 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ikvar
Lol, Viceroy comments FTW yet again
Yes, they are funny most of the time. I wish I could laugh with him now aswell.
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Valan
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Posted - 2005.04.06 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ikvar
It's called sleep paralysis:
http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/paralysis.html
Ah cool, thanks for that. Wasn't far off the mark then with stress as the reason. I work shifts as well and occasionally it screws you up, could be just another side affect of a dodgy sleep pattern.
Relaxing does resolve the situation a lot quicker, the first time it happened it lasted for ages. It's an unnerving experience.
I've also seen some strange stuff in my time, which has been witnessed by others. But I'll never believe it to be anything else other than the human brain playing tricks.
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Tallinlen
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Posted - 2005.04.06 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Tallinlen on 06/04/2005 15:44:12
I always make my alarm clock apart of my dream, and sometimes spend 30 minutes to an hour sleeping while it goes off. ThatÆs as weird as my sleeping patterns get... do u think IÆm part of a ghostly conspiracy to keep me from getting to class on time?
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Kordesh
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Posted - 2005.04.06 16:56:00 -
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I've had a number of creepy experiences in the past. Many of them as a child. Fewer now, though occasionally something crops up. The only creepy thing that still continues are the dreams. I have really screwed up dreams, and thats about all the detail I'm willing to get into. Unfortunately going into detail causes people to think I'm making claims of things ect and don't want to deal with that.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2005.04.06 17:03:00 -
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It's sleeping paralysis.
and Seraphim, do 'they' sell cheap crows too? 
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Kordesh
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Posted - 2005.04.06 17:06:00 -
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Actually, Seriphim knows what he's talking about for the most part. True it's all theory, but he's got the theory down.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2005.04.06 17:13:00 -
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There are a lot of theories there,
Seraphim is still full of ..it.
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Kordesh
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Posted - 2005.04.06 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Vex Seraphim
There are a lot of theories there,
Seraphim is still full of ..it.
Some theories are more accepted than others.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.06 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Vex Seraphim
There are a lot of theories there,
Seraphim is still full of ..it.
You're wrong. I don't expect you to believe me though so I kinda wonder why I'm posting this
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.04.06 19:04:00 -
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Theory? Are you serious? Its bull. People dedicate their lives to science in order to come up with theories, they don't sit at home and make up dramatic horror stories about "them" and expect to be taken seriously.
I'll go with sleep paralysis instead of the "them" theory. And If I ever start making stuff up, everyone has my permission to be an ass about it and make fun of me, because I'll deserve it.
(PS: If "they" come to my house, I'll be calling the ghost busters thank you very much)
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Duke Dredd
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Posted - 2005.04.06 19:50:00 -
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I had a dream too, was in a dark room, i was laying in bed, something with heavy weight was sitting on me and screaming, it was all wet...wait...haha that was actually a movie I watched.
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Seriphim
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Posted - 2005.04.06 21:45:00 -
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Like I said earlier....its very easy to fool most of everybody by not getting noticed. These anomilies (FYI "they" have a name I would not mention in a forum) do exist. This knowledge dose not originate with me, so it is reliable. It is not as though I have come up with this stuff on my own.
And for those who think this is ludicrous, thats fine. Most of the people in this country would anyways. The more you think its ludicrous the more they would have no interest in directly interacting with you. Your not sensitive enough, but trust me that can be a good thing.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2005.04.06 22:54:00 -
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I'm sensitive! i was so crying when i watched Titanic, mind you!
and tbh, i've had my share of occult study,
and you're still full of it.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.04.06 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphim
FYI "they" have a name I would not mention in a forum
OH NOES! THEM WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111126748641352742potato.
Come clean, it's FOE isn't it? They come into your room at night and scare you
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Thalanor
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Posted - 2005.04.07 00:09:00 -
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seriphim, im interested in this stuff, it makes interesting reading. do you have any links to any of these theories or any other documentation? eve-mail me if you dont want to post them here.
but...
Originally by: Seriphim
...Most of the people in this country...
which country do you mean?
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.07 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 07/04/2005 00:18:35
Originally by: Thalanor
seriphim, im interested in this stuff, it makes interesting reading. do you have any links to any of these theories or any other documentation? eve-mail me if you dont want to post them here.
If you google for "treatise on astral projection" you should get some good sites.
Originally by: Thalanor
Originally by: Seriphim
...Most of the people in this country...
which country do you mean?
Probably USA. Most people in other countries would not refer to their country as "this country" when using a public board.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2005.04.07 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphim
Like I said earlier....its very easy to fool most of everybody by not getting noticed. These anomilies (FYI "they" have a name I would not mention in a forum) do exist. This knowledge dose not originate with me, so it is reliable. It is not as though I have come up with this stuff on my own.
And for those who think this is ludicrous, thats fine. Most of the people in this country would anyways. The more you think its ludicrous the more they would have no interest in directly interacting with you. Your not sensitive enough, but trust me that can be a good thing.
Puuuuuuhhlease
I've read my fair share of cheap books on astral projection and the netherworld tbh, and never once did I go around forums acting like Harry Potter. Trying to patronize people with this crap is kinda OLD (Literally, 20 thousand years old).
Also the fact that this "information" originated from a half-arsed book on the occult, and not from your imagination does not make it "reliable" by default. But hell, how should I know? I'm not Ghost-Sensitive enough to know if "they" exist, and if I was, I would be agreeing with you anyway. You've pretty much covered every base, except one; I'm going to roll a d20, if I get a 19, I'm Ghost Sensitive AND I think you're full of it.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.04.07 06:18:00 -
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Edited by: Discorporation on 07/04/2005 06:18:31
Originally by: Seriphim
Like I said earlier....its very easy to fool most of everybody by not getting noticed. These anomilies (FYI "they" have a name I would not mention in a forum) do exist. This knowledge dose not originate with me, so it is reliable. It is not as though I have come up with this stuff on my own.
And for those who think this is ludicrous, thats fine. Most of the people in this country would anyways. The more you think its ludicrous the more they would have no interest in directly interacting with you. Your not sensitive enough, but trust me that can be a good thing.
I-! I-! Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!!
Hehehe
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Yanclo
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Posted - 2005.04.07 10:31:00 -
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Talking about dreams....
Never happened to you that you have a s3x dream with a girl you know and...
- When you wake up you can't figure out if it was a dream or it really happened
(you even think about telling your friends "Hey you won't guess who I *** last night! "
- Next time you see her you feel kinda weird being around her (for a while at least)
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skilz
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Posted - 2005.04.07 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: skilz on 07/04/2005 22:39:17
Originally by: Scorpyn
Seriphim how much do you know about this stuff? And how/where did you learn it?
It's all made up stuff, it all can be explained scientifically without any weirdo responses making up supernatural reasons. It's simply not true, all it does is make it so people can sell you brazlian crystals and charge $40 for them. You want to impress me? How about you predict why fortune tellers are always broke-a$$ losers who dress like Gypsies?
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skilz
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Posted - 2005.04.07 22:37:00 -
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http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=astrology Refer to this if you need anything else.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.07 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: skilz
Edited by: skilz on 07/04/2005 22:39:17
Originally by: Scorpyn
Seriphim how much do you know about this stuff? And how/where did you learn it?
It's all made up stuff, it all can be explained scientifically without any weirdo responses making up supernatural reasons. It's simply not true, all it does is make it so people can sell you brazlian crystals and charge $40 for them. You want to impress me? How about you predict why fortune tellers are always broke-a$$ losers who dress like Gypsies?
You're wrong. And no I'm not gonna try to convince you or anyone else. It'd be like arguing with a wall - if you don't understand what I'm talking about there is no way you will believe me anyway so it's pointless.
The sad part is that when it comes to this stuff there are a lot of fake fortune tellers and similar around that don't know what they are doing, they are making a bad reputation for those that actually know their stuff and they make the job for the fortune telling bashers a lot easier since they can just focus on the fakes and then say that all of them are fakes.
Originally by: skilz
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=astrology Refer to this if you need anything else.
Love that site
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skilz
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Posted - 2005.04.08 00:19:00 -
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sorry I win, skilz4tw
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Valan
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Posted - 2005.04.08 01:14:00 -
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After talking to some of my shift buddies it seems sleep paralysis is fairly common. Seems shifties are prone to it. A lot of our guys are ex-forces as well who have experienced sleep paralysis when in stressful situations, where sleep is a luxury.
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skilz
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Posted - 2005.04.08 01:41:00 -
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The problem is, you have no scientific evidence to back this claim up! You probably even belive in crop circles, as well as horoscopes. I can back up the law of gravity with science, you can't backup thats ghosts are attacking you in your room because of religious figures, or whatever the flavor of the month is.
If it's too complicated for you to explain than it's above you, it doesn't mean that spirts or fairys appeared out of no where and haunted your dreams, it means you've had another anomolie happen to your body. EG: Loss of sleep, stress, etc, etc.
You probably think I'm too closed minded, but maybe you're too open minded to accept facts that aren't even true! CLOSED MINDED IS NOT A BAD THING, OPEN MINDED IS. Good luck with your brazilian crystals, and dragon hunts!
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.08 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: skilz
The problem is, you have no scientific evidence to back this claim up! You probably even belive in crop circles, as well as horoscopes. I can back up the law of gravity with science, you can't backup thats ghosts are attacking you in your room because of religious figures, or whatever the flavor of the month is.
If it's too complicated for you to explain than it's above you, it doesn't mean that spirts or fairys appeared out of no where and haunted your dreams, it means you've had another anomolie happen to your body. EG: Loss of sleep, stress, etc, etc.
You probably think I'm too closed minded, but maybe you're too open minded to accept facts that aren't even true! CLOSED MINDED IS NOT A BAD THING, OPEN MINDED IS. Good luck with your brazilian crystals, and dragon hunts!
Do I believe in the crop circles? I've seen the pictures, so they should be there, but I don't believe that they are made by aliens if that's what you mean.
Do I believe in horoscopes? Well, tbh I haven't made up my mind about that yet, but at the moment I lean more towards not believing them than to believing them. I have very little experience with horoscopes, apart from the very crappy and very general ones that are made on a day-by-day basis in the newspaper. They should remove those, since afaik even the horoscope makers themselves consider them to be crappy. I have never had anyone make me a personal horoscope based on exact date, time and location of birth, which is supposed to be the most exact ones, and until I do I will probably not be able to say whether I believe in horoscopes. (Actually to be able to tell whether they really work or not I'd have to do a lot of research on it which I cba doing.)
Some day I might be able to give you scientifically acceptable proof for at least some of the stuff, but not now. Until then I will accept that you don't believe me, I expect nothing else.
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Bandus
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Posted - 2005.04.08 19:23:00 -
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Quote:
I can back up the law of gravity with science
Do you think human beings were always able to back up gravity with science?
May I remind you that at one point in time, the Earth was flat (or so it was beleived).
I am of the belief that while there is not evidence enough to prove the existence of ghosts, UFOs, exc. There is also not enough evidence to disprove them either...
That is to say, just because it can't be proven scientificaly, doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist or that it isn't true.
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Khrystoff
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Posted - 2005.04.08 19:33:00 -
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I like how the burden of proof is always a 1 way street.
Creationists don't need to prove their beliefs because they have faith, but Evolutionists are foolish for believing in their theories even though they aren't proven with adequate proof . . . .
It's a disgustingly hypocritical game to say "WHERE's the PROOF?!?" because invariably there is something equally as unproven in your own system of beliefs.
The same thing applies here.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.09 01:21:00 -
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Our mind is based on facts. We rate these facts by how much they fit in with the other facts we have. Some facts are easy to understand and they make sense. Others you don't understand at all and they seem to be contradicting other facts, but you still believe in them as facts.
If your set of facts is strong, ie you believe in what you believe in and anything that contradicts what you currently believe in must automatically be wrong, then you are close minded. If you can accept that even fundamental truths *may* be wrong, then you are open minded. An open minded person will have less problems changing his mind about something if something that contradicts his current set of truths appears, and he will have less problems changing back to the old truths if it turns out that the new information was wrong.
Once you start arguing over something - anything really, it doesn't matter what - you are defending your current set of truths. The more defensive you get the more you will have to be persuaded to change your mind, and sometimes you will keep arguing for your old set of truths even if you realize that you are wrong or could be wrong.
When it comes to spiritual stuff, there is no point in trying to convince someone who hasn't experienced anything like it. He will never believe it, and to be honest he shouldn't believe either without proof. In all areas there are liars, and this is far from an exception. You have to get your own experiences, think them through carefully, and then decide whether you should consider changing your current set of truths or not. Something that happens could be because of something else or just be a coincidence.
I am not saying that you should believe me - not only because you should discover this stuff by yourself, but also because I may be wrong (and tbh it's also because I cba trying to convince someone who doesn't have the faintest idea what I'm talking about).
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skilz
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Posted - 2005.04.09 15:46:00 -
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Oh cool thanks for the scientific proof, I totally believe you now! Just kidding you say that gravity has just recently been proven so how could this stuff be wrong? You're right, it's all right, I can fly on a broom, dragons exist, heck if I can't prove it doesn't then it really does exist! Great! Just kidding, they don't exist you say I can't prove that horoscopes or ghosts exist, so then you say it must be true! Good luck with your brazilian crystals.
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Posted - 2005.04.09 16:04:00 -
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When it comes to spiritual stuff, there is no point in trying to convince someone who hasn't experienced anything like it. He will never believe it, and to be honest he shouldn't believe either without proof. In all areas there are liars, and this is far from an exception. You have to get your own experiences, think them through carefully, and then decide whether you should consider changing your current set of truths or not. Something that happens could be because of something else or just be a coincidence.
Right on Scorpyn. Everyone can believe what they want based on their experiences, but they shouldn't expect everyone else to agree or be "excommunicated" (A fitting term).
When they start acting like harry potter and patronizing people, thats when the respect ends.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2005.04.09 18:36:00 -
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A lot of rooms feel like they are haunted but that¦s just that, a feeling. Here¦s what I think happened to you.
From the fact that you put a red light to set the mood I can draw the conclusion that this is not some gf or wife you¦ve had for years as we all now we really stop making an effort once we¦ve got laid once. I don¦t know if you have been married or had a girlfriend for a long time so I can¦t tell how used to sleeping next to a women you are but either way when sleeping with someone for the first time can be a bit uncomfortable which is probably the reason why you didn¦t sleep well. Also she could very well be talking out of her sleep or you¦ve been in that uncomfortable zone between waking and sleeping.
The second night you probably were half expecting to experience something otherwordly so you did just that. Prime example of over excited imagination getting the best of you, I should know mine is way out of control so it would probably work for you to throw something religious out of the room but it won't be because it's tied to the ghost, it's because you no longer things the place is haunted.
Also it's only natural not to sleep well in places you don't often sleep in assuming you don't sleep there regularly.
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wayz
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Posted - 2005.04.11 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: wayz on 11/04/2005 12:10:16
thing that got me was there was liek 3 of them!!!
having one demonic presence watching you sleep is bad enough but 3. my dreams seem to be getting more negative and violent to since that night... this sucks
Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day!
Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe!
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Posted - 2005.04.11 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Valan
After talking to some of my shift buddies it seems sleep paralysis is fairly common. Seems shifties are prone to it. A lot of our guys are ex-forces as well who have experienced sleep paralysis when in stressful situations, where sleep is a luxury.
yer sleep paralysis is quite a common thing, I watched a documentary on it a while back, theres actually been portraits drawn of an old woman figure sitting on someones throat to represent this as this seems to be a common hallucination during sleep paralasis, there was actually a name for her but I forget what it was.
it wasnt sleep paralysis that I had though I dont think, I actuallyu saw 3 manifestations or pure darkness just stood there watching me, kinda like guardian angels except... well the opposite.. was a pretty weird experience, I didnt actually feel that they were a danger to me at all, the were just watching me.
In fact now I think of it this has happened a few times before when I was young I think.
my m8 just thinks its funny but its not! he laughed because he had my name in his phone as satan since he got a mobile.
Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day!
Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe!
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Posted - 2005.04.11 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: skilz
The problem is, you have no scientific evidence to back this claim up! You probably even belive in crop circles, as well as horoscopes. I can back up the law of gravity with science, you can't backup thats ghosts are attacking you in your room because of religious figures, or whatever the flavor of the month is.
If it's too complicated for you to explain than it's above you, it doesn't mean that spirts or fairys appeared out of no where and haunted your dreams, it means you've had another anomolie happen to your body. EG: Loss of sleep, stress, etc, etc.
You probably think I'm too closed minded, but maybe you're too open minded to accept facts that aren't even true! CLOSED MINDED IS NOT A BAD THING, OPEN MINDED IS. Good luck with your brazilian crystals, and dragon hunts!
hmm I actually do beleive in the paranormal to an extent in that I beleive in good and evil. To beleive in almost any religion for a start is an admittance that yes you do beleive in something more than what you can see. I mean for a start jesus, in the new testemant jesus cast out deamons on numerous occasions so to a certain extent even the bible admits that yes demons can actually cross onto our plain of existence to a certain degree
Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day!
Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe!
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Posted - 2005.04.11 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: wayz
it wasnt sleep paralysis that I had though I dont think, I actuallyu saw 3 manifestations or pure darkness just stood there watching me, kinda like guardian angels except... well the opposite.. was a pretty weird experience, I didnt actually feel that they were a danger to me at all, the were just watching me.
Did they seem to be good/evil/neither? Your description makes it seem like you perceived them as evil but not really a threat?
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Troye
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Posted - 2005.04.11 19:57:00 -
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In all my life i dont think i have ever experienced anything worse than sleep paralisis, but thank fully ive only had it 4 times in total. Though there may indeed be a scientific explanation to why your body freezes up but how come every1 ive spoken to also gets a "presence" as if theres som1 else in the room with them?
this sounds rediculous but i cant get the idea out of my head that maybe its some kind of spirit trying to seize control of my body while im asleep. And you say relaxing helps but how the hell are you suposed to relax when there some wierd spirit dude standing over ur bed and ur completly paralized!
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2005.04.11 20:13:00 -
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Seriously though, if I tried to fall asleep in a room I had just 'toked' up in, I would be having weird experiences too. It's normal.
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qrac
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Posted - 2005.04.11 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: qrac on 11/04/2005 22:07:07
Edited by: qrac on 11/04/2005 22:06:37
i have suffered from sleep paralysis a lot. thankfully i haven't had one for some time.. once i even had it twice, i woke up and went back to sleep and then it struck me again. i didn't sleep in that room again until this winter (1,5 years had passed) when i was there with my gf. we had chucked out the bedsofas and gotten a big bed in that room instead and i never had any problems sleeping there again even though my cousin's husband told us about his ghost stories while he was looking for gold and my gf freaked out that night.
i thought it was the room that was causing me problems since i always felt strange when entering that room, and i thought it had to do with the room not being furnished. i suffered from sleep paralysis a couple of times before the incident where i suffered from it twice and when i didn't i had some very disturbing dreams. u guys have now scared me because me and my gf slept in one of those bedsofa's this winter because the house hadn't been warmed up and the kitchen combined livingroom was the only warm room (stove). i didn't sleep well that night.
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2005.04.11 21:48:00 -
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Speaking of paralysis in strange rooms...one time I was at a brothel (suffice it to say that it was a bit eerie there), and I had paralysis in the most disturbing of places...stiff as a board...what was I to do? Oh and the dark figure standing by watching me...that was the black hooker.
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.04.11 22:26:00 -
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anyone who wants some interesting late night reading can check this site:
(check the "ghost and hauntings" section in particular)
http://www.theshadowlands.net/
even if you're a sceptic its fun to read even if some (or most) of it is unlikely 
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.11 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 11/04/2005 22:32:54
Originally by: Troye
In all my life i dont think i have ever experienced anything worse than sleep paralisis, but thank fully ive only had it 4 times in total. Though there may indeed be a scientific explanation to why your body freezes up but how come every1 ive spoken to also gets a "presence" as if theres som1 else in the room with them?
this sounds rediculous but i cant get the idea out of my head that maybe its some kind of spirit trying to seize control of my body while im asleep. And you say relaxing helps but how the hell are you suposed to relax when there some wierd spirit dude standing over ur bed and ur completly paralized!
If you are afraid that something is trying to control you, I'd recommend you to ask someone who knows a lot more about that stuff that anyone that's likely to read these forums. Try asking your question here (don't know any better place for it, but I'm sure there are more places available on the net).
If relaxing doesn't work, I've also heard that it might work to focus all effort on moving one of the big toes. As soon as you succeed in moving just a little bit you're supposed to snap out of it, and for some reason the big toes are supposed to be best for this (I don't know tbh as I haven't tried this method myself).
Also note that it might actually be yourself you're seeing, since sleep paralysis is supposedly when you get stuck halfway when doing a spontaneous oobe. Since the part of you that leaves during an oobe is detached and the different bodies have separate memories, you can actually see yourself without realizing it - in fact, you can sometimes see yourself from both viewpoints.
Originally by: qrac
Edited by: qrac on 11/04/2005 22:07:07
Edited by: qrac on 11/04/2005 22:06:37
i have suffered from sleep paralysis a lot. thankfully i haven't had one for some time.. once i even had it twice, i woke up and went back to sleep and then it struck me again. i didn't sleep in that room again until this winter (1,5 years had passed) when i was there with my gf. we had chucked out the bedsofas and gotten a big bed in that room instead and i never had any problems sleeping there again even though my cousin's husband told us about his ghost stories while he was looking for gold and my gf freaked out that night.
i thought it was the room that was causing me problems since i always felt strange when entering that room, and i thought it had to do with the room not being furnished. i suffered from sleep paralysis a couple of times before the incident where i suffered from it twice and when i didn't i had some very disturbing dreams. u guys have now scared me because me and my gf slept in one of those bedsofa's this winter because the house hadn't been warmed up and the kitchen combined livingroom was the only warm room (stove). i didn't sleep well that night.
A scary atmosphere can give bad dreams without meaning anything, and as has already been pointed out you never sleep as good as in your regular bed at home. I wouldn't worry about it.
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wayz
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Posted - 2005.04.13 20:57:00 -
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I'm sure it wasnt sleep paralysis because I've had that a few times before and I think sleep paralysis is a lot worse but in a different way.
when I have sleep paralysis I always feel like I'm suffocating and I panic like hell, its actully common to see something sitting on your throat ect during sleep paralysis, I think its kind of your brain being confused as to why your having trouble breating so gives you an adrenaline kick before your actually awake, thats my explination for it anyway because when I've come out of sleep paralysis when I've had it I was always in total panic and for a muinite... superhumanly strong.
I might actually do some research into this if I remember
its pretty interesting really
the things I saw that night though made no physical contact with me and didnt panic me as much as disturb me. I really do think they were evil or something because I've never geard of anything good manifesting themselves as dark figures. as I said before, best description would be a manifestations of pure darkness, about 6 foot tall, think they looked liek they werre wearing hooded robes of darkness but I couldnt swear on that.
freaked me out a little that night but now thinming about it just facinates me.
Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day!
Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe!
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Major Bash
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Posted - 2005.04.14 03:55:00 -
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Interessting thread I must say. Im not a beliver of these things myself since I havent experienced it, but it sure makes for some interessting reading.
I have heard stories of friends who say that they have experienced some of the stuff mentioned in this thread. Always love hearing about it.
This whole thread has given me goosebumbs from the first page to the last.....keep going plz 
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2005.04.14 04:44:00 -
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I once had a dream i was a seal and i was eaten by a killer whale. Does that count?
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.04.14 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 14/04/2005 18:04:48
Originally by: wayz
the things I saw that night though made no physical contact with me and didnt panic me as much as disturb me. I really do think they were evil or something because I've never geard of anything good manifesting themselves as dark figures. as I said before, best description would be a manifestations of pure darkness, about 6 foot tall, think they looked liek they werre wearing hooded robes of darkness but I couldnt swear on that.
freaked me out a little that night but now thinming about it just facinates me.
I have read the text a couple of times, searched my memory, and came to a conclusion : I have no idea what it was you saw. Not even if it was something good or bad.
I don't really know that much about this subject, there are others that knows a lot more than I do... but as long as they are just watching you I doubt that there is any cause for concern. If you see them more times and want them to go away, there are ways of getting rid of the ebil stuff... such as playing christmas music (cheerful music basically, christmas music is supposed to be good), using garlic (eat it and put sliced garlic on a plate, they aren't supposed to like the smell) and similar, but I haven't really had any reason to test it yet so I don't know whether those methods actually work or not. It seems strange to me that such things would be able to have any effect on such beings tbh, but others that seem to know more than me have claimed that it seems to work.
Originally by: Major Bash
Interessting thread I must say. Im not a beliver of these things myself since I havent experienced it, but it sure makes for some interessting reading.
I have heard stories of friends who say that they have experienced some of the stuff mentioned in this thread. Always love hearing about it.
This whole thread has given me goosebumbs from the first page to the last.....keep going plz
Want more goosebumps? Listen to this.
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AgueReon
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Posted - 2005.04.14 20:06:00 -
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News flash: Santa is a evil demon arghh !
But really, does anyone ever had a (day)dream that they were riding a bike or driving a car, but then you collide with a very heavy object like a truck and actually feel the shock of the crash through your body? Had it like 6 times over the few months really creepy ... wait ... im not going to end up as roadkill right? Scorp lol, confusing that audio file
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Il Padrino
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Posted - 2005.04.15 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: Il Padrino on 15/04/2005 08:59:07
While I may not believe in this per sÚ, I do agree with the stance of the people who do. If something isn't in the science text books that doesnt mean it to be a falsehood. If something is in the science text books that doesnt mean it to be a fact.
If you do want to talk about factual errors taken to be facts (because of the lack of a better theory) you need look no further than ancient history. Alot of evidence suggests that civilisation could be alot older than you/we/even I think. Because as someone afore mentioned that people who argue their positions become more deeply entrenched in their views we have a closed minded scientific community who flat out reject new ideas even when there IS proof.
Back on topic
Explaining away UFO sightings, Ghost stories etc with "oh thats just people seeing the same little green men they always saw" is a foolish explanation. Anyone investigates it and they get branded heretic cast out of scientific communities and viewed as *****pots and their work is largely dismissed. Thusly we can never get a proper detailed scientific study of controversial topics.
No-one should say something is impossible unless its been proven with controlled experiments. The Theory of Relativity might be wrong, but at the moment its the best theory we have that explains most of the Universe. I doubt it is wrong but I wouldnt be surprised if changes had to be made within the next 50 years to our view of it all.
For all the investigation that is needed its important to realise that some things have been investigated and this time its the believers who are blindly refusing to accept what challenges their set of beliefs and whatever it may be.
I've heard some strange theories in my time, ranging from Venus being a comet that was captured by the sun only 3500 years ago or so, to Aliens created the human race by mixing their genes with ape genes creating us. and as crazy as they seem and as much as i may not wish to believe them there is evidence, no matter how flimsy (there is also strong evidence to the contrary that believers dont take heed of and call everyone else closed minded...)
Guess what im trying to say is open your mind and see both sides of the coin, no matter how irrational you believe the subject being debated or how foolish the idea. Because unless you can certifiably prove it 100% then theres a chance they might be right. |
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Posted - 2005.04.15 11:00:00 -
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i have had lots of scary experiences. i have just moved house and my old house was an extremly large house that was about 200 years old and looks like the one off "the munsters". the house wasnt really scary to me, as i moved in young, but alot of ppl thought it was scary.
one time i woke up with blood all over my hands, nowhere else, just on my hands. i had to check that i hadnt killed neone in my house(i handt).
when i was younger i used to have the same kind of dreams. i always ended up falling. Christianity explains these dreams by being symbolic of falling short of what God intended for humanity. and everyone that i have taked that had these dreams, stoped having them after they became a christian(practicing).
also in this house one night nobody in the house could sleep. everyone heard something walking up and down the stairs. and my brother even saw the face of something that he described as being one of the monster things off Judge Dread(he never saw it). but my older brother and i had. the next morining my mummy prayed, and wat she believed was God, said it was the Sprit of Dread. she took that literally as in the verb, to dread. but after hearing what my little brother saw. and that my older brother and i had seen judge dread. she piced the pieces together. ITS AN EBIL FILM!!!!!
yeh so....
ive been in a situation where i cudnt move in a dream aswell. a terradactal was trying eat me!!!! =(
but nowadays i usually kno that i am in a dream so can choose to open my eyes, wake up, and think about eve some more.
but where i used to live there was lots of sheep near by. and every night they used to chant my name, i got used to it after a while tho. (it was all like "beeeeeeeeeeen").
also where i live there is a little wood which looks like the wood on the village. and walking thru there at nighttime (all the time) i used to get scared. also sheep used to run after me up my hill, shouting my name. and ive had dear run after me, barking and all, yes it was a dear not a dog.
gone a bit off track. but yeh...
ive seen a real dead person aswell. after a RTA he was just lying on the road, he came off his bike into oncoming traffic. which was something new. seen quite a few accidents tho. ive seen the inside of my brothers arm (stabbed with some brocken glass, while trying to kill me)
Jamin
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2005.04.15 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
I-! I-! Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!!
Hehehe
He sleeps! Dead but dreaming! IA! IA!
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if you don't wake up, i'll have to stop kissing you. all that flailing has made you sleepy. you rest while i untie you. stay here until they find you. My hand made mannequin. i won't let them get you. they'll know you're mine by the fingerprints on your throat. isn't she lovely? isn't she wonderful? like the *****s that we are, swatting flies from the wounds we design. |
Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.04.15 18:35:00 -
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I had a dream once where I was a hillbilly farmer and OJ simpson was hitching a ride in the back of my pickup truck.
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Safaomae
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Posted - 2005.04.16 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dirtball
I had a dream once where I was a hillbilly farmer and OJ simpson was hitching a ride in the back of my pickup truck.
and I once dremt I went diving with a super model, in the river in the city, so she could teach me how to sink passenger ferries with torpedos. 
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