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Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:45:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Stealth Nerf Cloaky Afk Thead ^_^
no, not stealth at all, just blatant.
also just as stupid as all the other ones.
in fact, it's even stupider since 95% of people know how to make a macro hit a key every 4 min.... |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp.
R O G U E
514
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:46:00 -
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BoSau Hotim wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Dave stark wrote:
people don't afk mine by choice.
No? Have a rethink. A lot of people mine because they CAN go AFK. That's sorta the point. Who cares if they go afk for a bit??? Why does it affect anyone??? So what if they want to help their kids with homework, surf the web, get some work done while they are also mining.. I'ts called multi-tasking and I don't care!!!! It does not affect me ONE BIT. In fact it makes them a better gank target. Why would afk mining bother anyone? There they are. A hulk mining away - I dont' care if they are present at their pc or not, why do you care about it so much Touval?
the irony is, if he gets his way and players like me stop mining semi afk because the isk simply isn't worth the effort any more, prices will go up and then he'll be back here complaining about ship prices.
Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
564
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:48:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Dave stark wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Dave stark wrote:
people don't afk mine by choice.
No? Have a rethink. A lot of people mine because they CAN go AFK. That's sorta the point. and? that doesn't change the fact that even being at the keyboard doesn't require any interaction so even some one at the keyboard will still get modules turned off and drones redocked. hence, your idea is bad. also, you should feel bad. I feel terribad. I had NO IDEA so many people were HAPPY to have AFK as a feature of Eve given the number "you are AFK and you must die" posts I see.  I promise I will probably never do it again. it has nothing to do with being happy with it. having said that; if i couldn't go afk while mining i wouldn't mine. the isk/hour wouldn't be worth it if i couldn't go and do something else while mining. i don't mind pausing my tv every few mins to tab back to eve to unload cargo and change targets, that's about as much as i'm willing to do for mining's **** poor isk/hour though. your idea is terrible and badly thought out because you've never either encountered, emulated, or even tried to understand the "problem" you're trying to fix.
Can someone please explain the underlined to this man. He's not listening to me...
(pssst..... I have been an AFK cloaker, an AFK miner, an AFK missioner. For a long time...)
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp.
R O G U E
514
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:51:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:(pssst..... I have been an AFK cloaker, an AFK miner, an AFK missioner. For a long time...)
i doubt it, given how bad your initial idea was.
Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Robert De'Arneth
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:51:00 -
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sure, he means he is sorry he made this post. and you should move onto a nerf high sec thread.
Happy to help.
I kid you not, a player in this game said he hates other players because they do not like his view of the game. |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
564
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:02:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote:sure, he means he is sorry he made this post. and you should move onto a nerf high sec thread.
Happy to help.
Just don't use the term AFK in those threads anymore mmmmm k....
Everyone is happy with AFK.
Me too.
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." |
Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
564
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:06:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Got it. Didn't know it was around.
As an aside. Ya sorta think if you need an app to stop the saver and lock, then just turn the saver and locking off. I call it "duh software". You have to turn the duh software off to lock the PC, may as well just lock the PC. Sometimes, those things are under administrator control and no matter how often you explain to IT that it looks bad when the screen goes black in the middle of your presentation in front of WealthyCustomer LLCGäó, they just refuse to relax the restrictionsGǪ
I used to teach IT many years back and some of the classes were beginners. I remember trying to explain to college admin that I needed access to screen backgrounds etc. to teach how it was done.
"You can't do that" I was told, "it will make all the machines look different". Seriously...
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
2855
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:06:00 -
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Imagine what whining will happen when people start 'afk'ing on your grid and then suddenly as soon as you resume mining or ratting they are magically BACK at their keyboard.
Essentially you are asking for even more free intel from the client when it's CCP's intention to provide less.
This is a poorly proposed 'idea' and has been discussed in far more depth in the past. Perhaps in future you could spend a few minutes doing some rudimentary research into the topic and then posting any additional contribution you have in the correct place (features and ideas) rather than making yet another unhelpful thread in Eve general.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://bit.ly/RB6X4C ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
28
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:08:00 -
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I have right to be afk 24/7 , somtime im loged to game but my client is minimized hours long, or just need brak form EvE, playing diablo3, WOT, other mmo, waching informative media sites like BBC, CNN etc, and my game is minimized.
Btw I can be 24/7 afk sitting in stealth ship where null bears farm, but i dont have needs to do it, and i got better thing to do.
Afk is legit, espetialy EvE veterans do a lot afk, while new players are mostly online because here a lot fun and a lot stuf to discovery while players start own adventure with EvE. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
221
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:11:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:So basically an anti AFK cloaker thread?
A day doesn't go by that I'm not fascinated with people here so damned determined to stick their nose in other people's business. I'd say I don't get it, but it makes perfect sense to me. Me, I live my life and don't give a crap about what other people do. But others here (as evidenced on just about every game platform) have this driving need to assert some kind of control over other people's lives.
There's a name (dare I say "diagnosis"?) for that... |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
2858
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:18:00 -
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There is no other reason to care about anyone's AFK status.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ (my spaceblog) http://bit.ly/RB6X4C ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
BoSau Hotim
The Artist's
2348
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:22:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Wacktopia wrote:So basically an anti AFK cloaker thread? A day doesn't go by that I'm not fascinated with people here so damned determined to stick their nose in other people's business. I'd say I don't get it, but it makes perfect sense to me. Me, I live my life and don't give a crap about what other people do. But others here (as evidenced on just about every game platform) have this driving need to assert some kind of control over other people's lives. There's a name (dare I say "diagnosis"?) for that...
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1139
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:32:00 -
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Maggeridon Thoraz wrote:may i quoute evenews :
"The nullsec player who stops doing what theyGÇÖre doing just because some invisible ship is sitting in system, they should spend less time complaining, and more time feeling ashamed of themselves."
Ashamed that they don't move to another system, you mean to say?
http://themittani.com/features/local-problem
A simple fix to the local intel problem |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:59:00 -
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Thread moved from GD to F&I - ISD Type40.
ISD Type40
Lt. Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mordus Angels
663
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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:09:00 -
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Oh how delightful!
We DO see a few of these, every so often.
Even my signature can relate to this....
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim
Dragoons.
365
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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:26:00 -
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If we remove local u don't even know people are there so why don't we do that then don't have to be worried if that reds afk or not.
A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |
Pipa Porto
1223
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Posted - 2012.11.02 00:13:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:
people don't afk mine by choice, there's absolutely nothing to do while you're waiting for an asteroid to pop, there's 0 reason to be interacting with the game until your cargo is full, or your asteroid pops. that can regularly take more than 5 mins.
Funny thing is, that's exactly what miners asked for with the barge buffs.
There used to be a reason to interact with the game, and that reason for interaction resulted in record incomes for those miners who were willing to interact, but the great blubbering masses were vehemently opposed to needing to interact with the game, so there we are.
@OP. Fit up a bait ship. Your AFK cloaker will bite eventually. Or, if they're really AFK, rat normally. They're AFK, they can't hurt you. AFK Cloaking is the Counter to Local's function as a perfect intel tool. Local is the Counter to Cloaking's undetectable gank machine. You can't get rid of one without getting rid of the other unless you want to swing things wildly in favor of the defense (oh.....).
EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Lord Zim
1907
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Posted - 2012.11.02 00:29:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:If we remove local u don't even know people are there so why don't we do that then don't have to be worried if that reds afk or not.
Oh look a slippery slope fallacy which ignores huge amounts of issues.
Excellent.
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
2865
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Posted - 2012.11.02 02:06:00 -
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I'm willing to bet these 'issues' are just things you are unwilling to deal with. Much like every other thread on this subject.
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Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
252
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Posted - 2012.11.02 02:06:00 -
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Lets see, these afk cloaking threads usually end with, there is nothing wrong with cloaking, nerf local.
So, there is nothing wrong with cloaking, remove local and eferything will be alright
Ideas for Drone Improvement
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
10684
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Posted - 2012.11.02 02:52:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Lets see, these afk cloaking threads usually end with, there is nothing wrong with cloaking, nerf local.
So, there is nothing wrong with cloaking, remove local and eferything will be alright Actually it's rather balanced at the moment, even though they fail to see that.
But if people want to nerf AFKing, then the local intel channel needs to be changed in order to keep balance.
I personally like the system as it is and love the addition of psychological warfare.
CCP Zulu.....
Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
30
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Posted - 2012.11.02 03:16:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:Lets see, these afk cloaking threads usually end with, there is nothing wrong with cloaking, nerf local.
So, there is nothing wrong with cloaking, remove local and eferything will be alright Actually it's rather balanced at the moment, even though they fail to see that. But if people want to nerf AFKing, then the local intel channel needs to be changed in order to keep balance. I personally like the system as it is and love the addition of psychological warfare.
this basically.....
2 way street here, don't think these people mind thier alliance/corp mates doing likewise in "hostile" space. they sure as hell won't mind when one day they are the CO/recon on an important cyno run.
And I will bet they sure as hell don't mind some on the spot warp ins they get courtesy of the cloakies who when not making people emo rage...are plotting good bm's for future op warp ins. Me in a slow bs, gettting those jsut right landings....hats off to the "afk" cloaky that got them. Saves the time of readjusting position to put best dps on the pos.
Maybe I jsut got lucky. never had an afk cloaky issue. Most of cloakies running about, were not afk lol. Got some good kills killing off idiots who did not read the kb's daily to know old boy liked his arazu and and a very effective covert gang on call our tz. Most "afk" cloakies I saw....they were jsut bad at it. Liked their KM's too much. Days to weeks to months of kills in the USTZ....0 mail actvitity in the oceanic tz. I fly oceanic....so I liked them alot. Kept my system clean of corpies so scared of the cloaky they were too paralyzed to see if the mofo not even playing when we were lol.
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rothmal
Generation Dead
Shadow of Fate
1
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Posted - 2012.11.02 03:24:00 -
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AFK is not a problem end thread plz. |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp.
R O G U E
532
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Posted - 2012.11.02 09:11:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Dave stark wrote:
people don't afk mine by choice, there's absolutely nothing to do while you're waiting for an asteroid to pop, there's 0 reason to be interacting with the game until your cargo is full, or your asteroid pops. that can regularly take more than 5 mins.
Funny thing is, that's exactly what miners asked for with the barge buffs. There used to be a reason to interact with the game, and that reason for interaction resulted in record incomes for those miners who were willing to interact, but the great blubbering masses were vehemently opposed to needing to interact with the game, so there we are.
wrong. they didn't want a 200m ship to be blown up by a 2m ship in about 10 seconds flat. the barge buff fixed that. the barge buff had absolutely nothing to do with interaction, or lack of interaction, with the game.
Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Lord Zim
1924
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Posted - 2012.11.02 09:14:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:wrong. they didn't want a 200m ship to be blown up by a 2m ship in about 10 seconds flat. the barge buff fixed that. the barge buff had absolutely nothing to do with interaction, or lack of interaction, with the game.
What they said was that it wasn't supposed to be profitable to gank the hull itself, which it was due to salvaging often yielding something which did make it economically viable to do so.
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp.
R O G U E
532
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Posted - 2012.11.02 11:25:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Dave stark wrote:wrong. they didn't want a 200m ship to be blown up by a 2m ship in about 10 seconds flat. the barge buff fixed that. the barge buff had absolutely nothing to do with interaction, or lack of interaction, with the game. What they said was that it wasn't supposed to be profitable to gank the hull itself, which it was due to salvaging often yielding something which did make it economically viable to do so.
either way, it had **** all to do with afk mining.
Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Lord Zim
1924
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Posted - 2012.11.02 11:52:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Dave stark wrote:wrong. they didn't want a 200m ship to be blown up by a 2m ship in about 10 seconds flat. the barge buff fixed that. the barge buff had absolutely nothing to do with interaction, or lack of interaction, with the game. What they said was that it wasn't supposed to be profitable to gank the hull itself, which it was due to salvaging often yielding something which did make it economically viable to do so. either way, it had **** all to do with afk mining.
You're entirely correct, the buff had nothing to do with the act of not interacting with the game, and everything to do with the fact they refused to make themselves into an unprofitable thing to shoot, and instead whined until Daddy CCP fixed the boo boo for them.
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
186
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Posted - 2012.11.02 12:35:00 -
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Nothing wrong with local. If you have jump gates you have local.
Nothing wrong with cloaking (AFK or otherwise). Interceptor lead small squads are more dangerous to nullsec ratters anyway.
Just another butthurt nullbear that can't take the stress of having someone they don't know in *their* holy system.
Nothing wrong with AFK mining either, for that matter. Just bump them off the rocks and all is good (and take their Orca can too while you're at it). |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mordus Angels
671
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:22:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:Lets see, these afk cloaking threads usually end with, there is nothing wrong with cloaking, nerf local.
So, there is nothing wrong with cloaking, remove local and eferything will be alright Actually it's rather balanced at the moment, even though they fail to see that. But if people want to nerf AFKing, then the local intel channel needs to be changed in order to keep balance. I personally like the system as it is and love the addition of psychological warfare.
I respect Mag's blunt honesty.
Truly, AFK Cloaking is a counterforce to local chat's effect on intel gathering.
Those who hate it, actually hate it for the exact reason it exists. They are put in a position where they have "intel" they cannot use. They must either ignore it at their own risk, or become inactive.
At no point is confirmation of an actual threat available, simply the fear that they might have a cyno or other means of bringing fast PvP to bear.
Well, they liked the free intel. This is the price tag.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
478
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:45:00 -
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Another afk cloak whine? Gosh |
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