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Bane Necran Appono Astos 637	Posted - 2012.11.01 20:53:00 - [1] - Quote Police are now allowed to set up surveillance cameras on peoples private property without a warrant. In related news, i'm probably considered a terrorist for bringing this to your attention. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham
Alara IonStorm 3379	Posted - 2012.11.01 21:10:00 - [2] - Quote That is terrible but at least they did it for a noble cause. Stopping no real amount of ********* use and costing the tax payers hundreds of thousands of dollars in holding these guys. Now they can do it to anyone.
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance 122	Posted - 2012.11.01 23:43:00 - [3] - Quote heh. you'd love living in the UK then afaik we have the highest number of cctv cameras per person than any other country in the world.
Alara IonStorm 3380	Posted - 2012.11.01 23:52:00 - [4] - Quote Kitty Bear wrote: afaik we have the highest number of cctv cameras per person than any other country in the world. I am sure the Crown just wishes to watch after their loyal suspects... I mean subjects.
MinefieldS 1 Sick Duck Standss on something 155	Posted - 2012.11.02 01:16:00 - [5] - Quote Make a device like this http://www.technologyreview.com/news/405968/lights-camera-jamming/ and replace the white light with one of these http://www.wickedlasers.com/arctic
Graygor 1kB Realty 1kB Galactic 1000	Posted - 2012.11.02 01:17:00 - [6] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Kitty Bear wrote: afaik we have the highest number of cctv cameras per person than any other country in the world. I am sure the Crown just wishes to watch after their loyal suspects... I mean subjects. Pretty much. I remember a Panorama documentary years ago that showed leaked police reports that at night the control teams in one part of London I believe, were just watching couples having sex in cars.
MinefieldS 1 Sick Duck Standss on something 155	Posted - 2012.11.02 01:32:00 - [7] - Quote Graygor wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: Kitty Bear wrote: afaik we have the highest number of cctv cameras per person than any other country in the world. I am sure the Crown just wishes to watch after their loyal suspects... I mean subjects. Pretty much. I remember a Panorama documentary years ago that showed leaked police reports that at night the control teams in one part of London I believe, were just watching couples having sex in cars. So that's why you can't have tinted windows.
Borascus Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance 88	Posted - 2012.11.02 01:53:00 - [8] - Quote Bane Necran wrote: Police are now allowed to set up surveillance cameras on peoples private property without a warrant. In related news, i'm probably considered a terrorist for bringing this to your attention. I've heard US anti-government conspiracy theorists can be prone to aggressive outbursts. I'm sure you are a nice guy though (or WGoE Alt) Still, you've gotta see the only upside. It's definitely a good reference: US Citizen wrote: So I was being watched by this CCTV camera all the time while I was outside. I've not been arrested for anything
stoicfaux 1744	Posted - 2012.11.02 02:06:00 - [9] - Quote Sounds like they're arguing that if you can fly over someone's land and see what's going on, then you can place surveillance devices as well. Just a long as they don't try to look into your house or its immediate vicinity. Quote: Callahan based his reasoning on a 1984 Supreme Court case called Oliver v. United States, in which a majority of the justices said that "open fields" could be searched without warrants because they're not covered by the Fourth Amendment. What lawyers call "curtilage," on the other hand, meaning the land immediately surrounding a residence, still has greater privacy protections. Now I just need to figure out how to scale this up. You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head. Feature Request: -áDamnation Ship Codpiece-áfor the NeX store.
Ranzabar Vertical Ventures Unlimited Corp 17	Posted - 2012.11.02 02:33:00 - [10] - Quote Graygor wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: Kitty Bear wrote: afaik we have the highest number of cctv cameras per person than any other country in the world. I am sure the Crown just wishes to watch after their loyal suspects... I mean subjects. Pretty much. I remember a Panorama documentary years ago that showed leaked police reports that at night the control teams in one part of London I believe, were just watching couples having sex in cars. Dogging in the UK? On the next flight Keep your expectations tiny and you won't be so winey

Bane Necran Appono Astos 660	Posted - 2012.11.02 02:53:00 - [11] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Sounds like they're arguing that if you can fly over someone's land and see what's going on, then you can place surveillance devices as well. It also clears up any legal hangups over drone surveillance. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3406	Posted - 2012.11.02 03:45:00 - [12] - Quote Bane Necran wrote: stoicfaux wrote: Sounds like they're arguing that if you can fly over someone's land and see what's going on, then you can place surveillance devices as well. It also clears up any legal hangups over drone surveillance. There are none, private property extends to 400 feet AGL. Beyond that they can use any optics they want to take a big fat look "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Jonah Gravenstein Holistic Materials Research Council 2567	Posted - 2012.11.02 04:37:00 - [13] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Sounds like they're arguing that if you can fly over someone's land and see what's going on, then you can place surveillance devices as well. Just a long as they don't try to look into your house or its immediate vicinity. Quote: Callahan based his reasoning on a 1984 Supreme Court case called Oliver v. United States, in which a majority of the justices said that "open fields" could be searched without warrants because they're not covered by the Fourth Amendment. What lawyers call "curtilage," on the other hand, meaning the land immediately surrounding a residence, still has greater privacy protections. Now I just need to figure out how to scale this up. Look into using microwave oven parts :) might not technically be an EMP but directed high energy radio frequencies may have some interesting effects on unwanted electronic devices. -á-áThe Likes & Get Likes Thread Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid---
Bane Necran Appono Astos 660	Posted - 2012.11.02 04:41:00 - [14] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: There are none, private property extends to 400 feet AGL. Beyond that they can use any optics they want to take a big fat look I meant more invasive, like hovering over your house and peering at you in your backyard. The rise of the drones has already begun. Any day now we'll just start seeing them everywhere. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham
Luc Chastot Moira. Villore Accords 62	Posted - 2012.11.02 12:22:00 - [15] - Quote http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/13486752.jpg Also, in my quest for that, I found this. Thought I should share it: http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/sucks+to+be+you_822e1a_3446652.jpeg Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.
Micheal Dietrich Kings Gambit Black 744	Posted - 2012.11.02 14:14:00 - [16] - Quote Luc Chastot wrote: http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/sucks+to+be+you_822e1a_3446652.jpeg This version is better
Telegram Sam Shoot 2 Thrill 442	Posted - 2012.11.02 14:53:00 - [17] - Quote Graygor wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: Kitty Bear wrote: afaik we have the highest number of cctv cameras per person than any other country in the world. I am sure the Crown just wishes to watch after their loyal suspects... I mean subjects. Pretty much. I remember a Panorama documentary years ago that showed leaked police reports that at night the control teams in one part of London I believe, were just watching couples having sex in cars. This is a popular sport for cops in the U.S. too. And also listening in on people's baby monitor radios. The radio circuit broadcast's nighttime sounds not only from baby's room, but also from mom and dad's....
Borascus Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance 89	Posted - 2012.11.02 16:26:00 - [18] - Quote Funny story actually; When we had our first baby we bought a video baby monitor, mic etc.... Set the thing up, but a small camera in a window about 100m away was on channel 3. I can only hope that the baby monitor camera couldn't be received in their house . On the flip side though could see up their whole street on a different channel.
Bane Necran Appono Astos 660	Posted - 2012.11.02 16:53:00 - [19] - Quote Borascus wrote: Funny story actually; When we had our first baby we bought a video baby monitor, mic etc.... Set the thing up, but on one of the channels a small camera in a window about 100m away was on channel 3. I can only hope that the baby monitor camera couldn't be received in their house . On the flip side though could see up their whole street on a different channel. I can pretty much guarantee the baby monitor was available to anyone within a certain radius. It's the same with cordless phones. They only rarely have any sort of encryption. Although, similar to what Surfin' mentioned, it's perfectly legal for anyone, including government agencies, to park on the street in front of your house and intercept any electronic signals which may reach from your house to the street. Generally, people aren't aware just how much of their lives is waiting to be eavesdropped on, so it's a bit of a field day for anyone who wants to. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham
Micheal Dietrich Kings Gambit Black 744	Posted - 2012.11.02 17:09:00 - [20] - Quote Borascus wrote: Funny story actually; When we had our first baby we bought a video baby monitor, mic etc.... Set the thing up, but on one of the channels a small camera in a window about 100m away was on channel 3. I can only hope that the baby monitor camera couldn't be received in their house . On the flip side though could see up their whole street on a different channel. If you have anything on wireless it can be received by anyone. Pretty scary to think about if there is no way to set a password. My neighbor had his security cameras on wireless until I showed him the view from my laptop. Now he's cabled in.

Borascus Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance 89	Posted - 2012.11.02 17:30:00 - [21] - Quote It's one of life's subtle ironies really; In the 80's there were tonnes of night horror movies with the cliche "I feel like I'm being watched.... arggghhhh!" Nowadays we know we are being watched, to a limited extent, and nothing has changed...... It's like Superman II, Superman reverses time by spinning the Earth backwards.... nowadays...
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3406	Posted - 2012.11.02 22:31:00 - [22] - Quote Bane Necran wrote: Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: There are none, private property extends to 400 feet AGL. Beyond that they can use any optics they want to take a big fat look I meant more invasive, like hovering over your house and peering at you in your backyard. The rise of the drones has already begun. Any day now we'll just start seeing them everywhere. As long as they're higher than 400 feet they can do it if they feel like it. Think of it as public domain airspace Borascus wrote: It's one of life's subtle ironies really; In the 80's there were tonnes of night horror movies with the cliche "I feel like I'm being watched.... arggghhhh!" Nowadays we know we are being watched, to a limited extent, and nothing has changed...... It's like Superman II, Superman reverses time by spinning the Earth backwards.... nowadays... Funny story... if you have a wireless signal in your house someone who knows what they're doing can see exactly what you're doing (irl) within range of the wireless signal. Twilight zone theme "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Ranzabar Vertical Ventures Unlimited Corp 17	Posted - 2012.11.03 00:10:00 - [23] - Quote Kitty Bear wrote: heh. you'd love living in the UK then afaik we have the highest number of cctv cameras per person than any other country in the world. My friends in the UK agree. Smile. Keep your expectations tiny and you won't be so winey
Webvan State War Academy Caldari State 119	Posted - 2012.11.03 00:33:00 - [24] - Quote They put so much effort looking into our backyards and peering through our windows, when weapons, drugs, and all sorts of things come over our southern borders largely unimpeded. When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
digitalwanderer DF0 incorporated 101	Posted - 2012.11.03 01:09:00 - [25] - Quote Thank god i live in Canada....There's just too much paranoia in the USA and UK.
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance 130	Posted - 2012.11.03 01:48:00 - [26] - Quote digitalwanderer wrote: Thank god i live in Canada....There's just too much paranoia in the USA and UK. oh it's not paranoia .... it's for our "protection" I looked up the Lyrics to a song I listened to in 81, and they were worryingly relavant to todays issues FB3 "The Lunatics have taken over the assylum".
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3406	Posted - 2012.11.03 01:54:00 - [27] - Quote digitalwanderer wrote: Thank god i live in Canada....There's just too much paranoia in the USA and UK. Yes and we've seen the results of your complacency.... way to go Canada, you screwed with our supply of syrup we're going to install a new government in your country "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
stoicfaux 1744	Posted - 2012.11.03 02:26:00 - [28] - Quote digitalwanderer wrote: Thank god i live in Canada....There's just too much paranoia in the USA and UK. Ha! Global warming has thawed out Canada and exposed lots of mineral resources. Plus Canada has legal rights to the newly exposed resources in the arctic circle from the melting polar ice. As soon as the US starts suffering from losses in productive farmland due to climate change caused by global warming, we're going to annex Canada in order to acquire farmland and resources. You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head. Feature Request: -áDamnation Ship Codpiece-áfor the NeX store.
Mortimer Civeri Aliastra Gallente Federation 219	Posted - 2012.11.03 02:49:00 - [29] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: digitalwanderer wrote: Thank god i live in Canada....There's just too much paranoia in the USA and UK. Yes and we've seen the results of your complacency.... way to go Canada, you screwed with our supply of syrup we're going to install a new government in your country No war for syrup! "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3406	Posted - 2012.11.03 02:53:00 - [30] - Quote Mortimer Civeri wrote: Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: digitalwanderer wrote: Thank god i live in Canada....There's just too much paranoia in the USA and UK. Yes and we've seen the results of your complacency.... way to go Canada, you screwed with our supply of syrup we're going to install a new government in your country No war for syrup! Tastes better on waffles than oil "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á



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