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The Enslaver	Posted - 2005.04.07 02:31:00 - [31] Originally by: Cabal Leader I this had been RUS/Stain/Foundation/ or any other entity would you also have automatically declared war? Or would there have been diplomatic resolve instead? And how is that relevant? -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
Deathwing	Posted - 2005.04.07 02:51:00 - [32] stfu and fight <Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS
Hydroponica	Posted - 2005.04.07 02:52:00 - [33] Originally by: Darkrydar Originally by: Rodney Munch FACT! I like the Big Tasty burgers at McDonalds. Damn, they still got that? /me grabs keys... /me shakes head. Pfff, some ppls kids ***********************************
B Slap	Posted - 2005.04.07 10:46:00 - [34] I heard SE never joined in to help Xetic because the new CA are gonna give Xetics space to them once they've driven the Ark carebears back to Empire space. If you are gonna continue these lame threads at least make them have some juicy gossip instead of crying about who started what
HC MasiEEE	Posted - 2005.04.07 10:53:00 - [35] Again join this __________ HC MasiEEE
Masta Killa	Posted - 2005.04.07 10:58:00 - [36] Fun thread. Little point to it. Hc MasiEEE read yer evemail plz Oh and Xf aren't that bad but sometimes they come out as the fat kid in school (no pun intended) that the big bad bully and his lackeys pick on. -------------------------------------- We are The Collective. Resistance is futile.
HC MasiEEE	Posted - 2005.04.07 10:59:00 - [37] Most Xetics are great guys, but sometimes i think "Sigh" when i read their posts. And Mastaaaaaaa i will after DT __________ HC MasiEEE
Reite	Posted - 2005.04.07 13:55:00 - [38] You know what is kinda funny? That a xetic guy convoed me like 5 hours before it all started and asked me why he had ATUK as -10 ^^
Nira Li	Posted - 2005.04.07 14:03:00 - [39] Edited by: Nira Li on 07/04/2005 14:03:38 ATUK didn't want to have a war with Xetic but after reading CYVOK's post about SCA (wich was more like a war dec) atleast I got abit angry and then they shoot one shinra indy and my first thougt is "Die Xetic" and now we are having a war
Ohmite	Posted - 2005.04.07 14:22:00 - [40] I am a bit bemused here - Some how Xetic spies got hold of an internal SUPREMACY forum thread from Hiedbanger stating that XETIC were going to be NOT KOS, yes I repeat not KOS, hied bangers opinion was that later in the future this might change. This was a SUPREMACY forum not an ATUK SHINRA et al forum and was a view of a single individual about what may happen. People here seem to be using this piece of information as if it shows that "we" the Five corps had plans to kill Xetic. All I can say is congratulations Hied on becoming the sole spokesman for the Five Corps and your personal view is "GOD" and must be followed SUPREMACY were not happy about being friendly with XETIC, surely that would be obvious after just finishing 2 weeks of empire wars against XETIC but we have the professionlism to ignore our corps personal views and follow the agreed list set-up by the "Five corps". This would have stayed like this until the "5" changed the list and declared XETIC KOS. SUPREMACY have the discipline not to fire on people who are set to positive standings irrespective of our personal views, it seems that XETIC do not after it has been shown the SHINRA hauler was on +ve standings but was still shot. This is the point I think has been lost - IT WAS SET TO +VE STANDINGS AND XETIC STILL SHOT IT EVEN AFTER CONSULTATION WITH HIGHER AUTHORITY so you cannot blame itchy trigger fingers it was a delibrate act!!!!!!!!
Riddari	Posted - 2005.04.07 14:35:00 - [41] MASS logged in UB5Z-3 after trying to take over station. Clarification for their actions was not forthcoming. The train keeps getting filled up with former allies and foes. ¼©¼ a history
Sassinak	Posted - 2005.04.07 14:39:00 - [42] Originally by: Deathwing stfu and fight Amen! Sass Arcane Technologies
Hastrabull	Posted - 2005.04.07 14:45:00 - [43] Xetic is becoming history And i cant login CCP help me kick my ISP hard :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
clone43	Posted - 2005.04.07 14:48:00 - [44] First of all Ill say that im not a new player to this game and I usually sit back and enjoy most of what happens in Eve.I run more than one account and I have never felt the urge to post before but this situation has p****d me right off Over the last few months I have had repeated discussions with people inside XF about what has been happening inside there alliance. Since Cyvok has been in power he has done some utterly stupid things, this war with ATUK is one of them. I also understand, through reliable sources, that this person now removes/edits any post he doesnt like in the xf boards. This is the idiot who paid mercs to attack FoE and then told the ceo's of corps in XF about it 6 weeks later. Is this why you vetoed the investigation into XF finances Cyvok? and then you wanted to add more taxes. Where was that money going? Now he orders an attack on ATUK and friends without warning other XF corps. If XF want to be taken seriuosly get rid of this loser as he will be the death of your federation. I once thought about Joining XF to be with my friends but now I think Id rather join Atuk to bring Cyvok down.
Riddari	Posted - 2005.04.07 14:52:00 - [45] Originally by: clone43 First of all Ill say that im not a new player to this game and I usually sit back and enjoy most of what happens in Eve.I run more than one account and I have never felt the urge to post before but this situation has p**d me right off Over the last few months I have had repeated discussions with people inside XF about what has been happening inside there alliance. Since Cyvok has been in power he has done some utterly stupid things, this war with ATUK is one of them. I also understand, through reliable sources, that this person now removes/edits any post he doesnt like in the xf boards. This is the idiot who paid mercs to attack FoE and then told the ceo's of corps in XF about it 6 weeks later. Is this why you vetoed the investigation into XF finances Cyvok? and then you wanted to add more taxes. Where was that money going? Now he orders an attack on ATUK and friends without warning other XF corps. If XF want to be taken seriuosly get rid of this loser as he will be the death of your federation. I once thought about Joining XF to be with my friends but now I think Id rather join Atuk to bring Cyvok down. 17 day old alt. Next! ¼©¼ a history**
clone43	Posted - 2005.04.07 15:04:00 - [46] Actually clone13 is a 17 day old Main charcter in a new account who is still training learning skills before he can become useful, the other account is 11 months old and has 12millsp. But thanks for caring.
666 Mafia	Posted - 2005.04.07 15:13:00 - [47] Edited by: 666 Mafia on 07/04/2005 15:14:00 I have friends in both the coalition and in Xetic, and although I dont wanna take sides. tbh, why should the coalition need to justify itself in this? Why cant they just say "hey, I dont like Xetic, I wanna kill them off." And then do just that. Does there need to be a reason for EVERYTHING in EVE? EDIT: This is Trey Azagthoth, accidentally posted with my joke alt.
MuthaTrucka	Posted - 2005.04.07 15:13:00 - [48] Alts 4tW \0/ On a more serious note. Fact: Alot of People despise xetic. Thats ok, everyone is entitled to a opinion. No really you are. Of course that doesn't mean that everyone automatically agrees with you., Or that those that agree with you agree 100%. Fact: Alts Are lame Both sides seem to use them and third parties use them to inflame an already sensitive subject. The use of alts on the boards is lame, honestly if you want to flame do it with a main. It makes finger pointing much easier. Fact: I like flame wars The Eve-Online Forums have to be the kiddie pool of flamewars. Flames here last at most a week or two. Truely Epic flamewars last years not weeks. you can blame the Mods for that, personally I would have at least one unregulated board for the Flamefest to begin and be contained in. Fact: I LUB Foyle Marry me o Queen of Darkness and let us rule HED under a cloud of Sulfur and brimstone. --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all. --------------- [ Internally Yours foyle, MT ]
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.04.07 15:44:00 - [49] bye bye Xetic B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
siim	Posted - 2005.04.07 15:45:00 - [50] Originally by: Bad'Boy bye bye Xetic /me slaps bad'boy around
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2005.04.07 15:53:00 - [51] I look forward to quoting from these various threads and the "bye bye Xetic" comments when, in 6 months time, we're still around and still strong. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Belian	Posted - 2005.04.07 15:57:00 - [52] Originally by: Joshua Calvert I look forward to quoting from these various threads and the "bye bye Xetic" comments when, in 6 months time, we're still around and still strong. lol joshua how can you call your self strong when all your ppl are crying here about the war just stop posting bull and come fight Shinra Vid
Buddrow	Posted - 2005.04.07 16:09:00 - [53] Originally by: Joshua Calvert I look forward to quoting from these various threads and the "bye bye Xetic" comments when, in 6 months time, we're still around and still strong. yea ok... you bit off WAY more than you boys can chew, see you soon. listens to the mooing down south as Xetic are herded into the long shoots ---------------------------------- "Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move earth." Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
Chowdown	Posted - 2005.04.07 16:10:00 - [54] Edited by: Chowdown on 07/04/2005 16:11:59 Edited by: Chowdown on 07/04/2005 16:10:43 Originally by: Joshua Calvert I look forward to quoting from these various threads and the "bye bye Xetic" comments when, in 6 months time, we're still around and still strong. The problem is PA has NPC stations. FA has NPC stations. XETIC has no npc station. An alliance built on Secure cans in dead space cannot even return to that, cause thier cans will have been scanned and BMd. No Spot is Safe anymore Josh New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!!
Jaisan	Posted - 2005.04.07 16:29:00 - [55] Originally by: Chowdown The problem is PA has NPC stations. FA has NPC stations. XETIC has no npc station. An alliance built on Secure cans in dead space cannot even return to that, cause thier cans will have been scanned and BMd. No Spot is Safe anymore Josh Pssssst, heard of player owned stations ? Just too orangey for crows.
Belian	Posted - 2005.04.07 16:32:00 - [56] Edited by: Belian on 07/04/2005 16:33:18 Originally by: Jaisan Originally by: Chowdown The problem is PA has NPC stations. FA has NPC stations. XETIC has no npc station. An alliance built on Secure cans in dead space cannot even return to that, cause thier cans will have been scanned and BMd. No Spot is Safe anymore Josh Pssssst, heard of player owned stations ? Shinra Vid
Jaisan	Posted - 2005.04.07 16:36:00 - [57] Originally by: Belian are you stupid or somting ? Sometimes, and by the looks of your spelling, you are not that bright either. Just too orangey for crows.
Belian	Posted - 2005.04.07 16:41:00 - [58] Originally by: Jaisan Originally by: Belian are you stupid or somting ? Sometimes, and by the looks of your spelling, you are not that bright either. LOL yes im not the best a spelling maby cuz this is not my main language that just shows that you are the one who is not that bright Shinra Vid
The Ratfink	Posted - 2005.04.07 16:41:00 - [59] [ 2005.04.05 17:45:22 ] Lallante > what are you doing? [ 2005.04.05 17:45:43 ] Cinnander > I was told I could [ 2005.04.05 17:45:53 ] Lallante > Check with CYVOK [ 2005.04.05 17:45:56 ] Cinnander > Im so confuesed with all this politics, we have you at +10, [ 2005.04.05 17:45:56 ] Lallante > we are NOT at war [ 2005.04.05 17:46:07 ] Cinnander > so i checked cos i thought we shouldnt have you at 10 [ 2005.04.05 17:46:07 ] Lallante > but you just issued a declaration of war [ 2005.04.05 17:46:11 ] Cinnander > and i was told to shoot [ 2005.04.05 17:46:16 ] Lallante > by WHO? [ 2005.04.05 17:46:25 ] Cinnander > CYVOK via Krapz [ 2005.04.05 17:46:34 ] Lallante > congratulation [ 2005.04.05 17:46:42 ] Lallante > youve started a war [ 2005.04.05 17:46:52 ] Lallante > and broken our NAP [ 2005.04.05 17:47:04 ] Lallante > suggest you make 100% sure you did that right [ 2005.04.05 17:50:10 ] Lallante > I dont believe you had CYVOKs permission [ 2005.04.05 17:50:13 ] Lallante > please provide a chatlog [ 2005.04.05 17:51:40 ] Cinnander > as I said it came via senior fleet member, i don't personally have acess to the forum it was mentioned on.... [ 2005.04.05 17:51:45 ] Cinnander > over teamspeak [ 2005.04.05 17:52:43 ] Cinnander > but essentially [ 2005.04.05 17:52:53 ] Cinnander > "Why are SNRA +10" "they're kos" "oh.. ok" [ 2005.04.05 17:53:10 ] Lallante > well done [ 2005.04.05 17:53:27 ] Cinnander > Hey don't shoot the messenger [ 2005.04.05 17:53:38 ] Cinnander > wel actually, you can shoot me theres all the evidence needed now be quiet
Aeleva	Posted - 2005.04.07 17:13:00 - [60] So what im seeing is that Due to a few stupid mistakes by a few people, we all have to suffer? I personally am in the non pvp camp. I Hate everyone who *****s and whines about mining/producing not being the way to "play the game" as it is only a game. Personally, noone else has any right to tell someone that they are "whiney carebears" simply because they voiced their opinions and are not pvpers. Wouldnt mind seeing a xetic vote for war or not, instead of getting dragged into things done by the leadership. I mean ill try to join in on the fighting but not able to do much. Anyway, ty to those who have kept the topic relativly sensible. :)

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