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mavskji	Posted - 2005.04.08 11:58:00 - [1] Hi guys I am having trouble deciding between an Apocalypse & a Megathron. I already have Amarr BS lvl4 and I don't have Gallente BS trained yet. I've asked some corp mates but they all love their ships. I am biased towards the Megathron because it's my favourite looking ship, I like aggressive setups & the extra drone bay is nice too. If anyone who flies either or both of these ships could give me some nice info - pros & cons or why you like your ship etc, that would be great. Please no get a Raven posts, most of my corp fly Caldari, I can fly Caldari BS but think theyre boring. Hopefully you guys can push me in one direction or the other, I am finding it hard to decide between the two ships. Thanks for any help.
MadGaz	Posted - 2005.04.08 12:10:00 - [2] If you want it for npcing I'd go with an Apoc. Mega will be very popular after the patch though, being able to fit 7 of its heaviest blasters, 1x large armour rep and a mwd without no powergrid mods ------------------------------------------
KompleX	Posted - 2005.04.08 12:18:00 - [3] Edited by: KompleX on 08/04/2005 12:19:25 Edited by: KompleX on 08/04/2005 12:18:48 Originally by: MadGaz If you want it for npcing I'd go with an Apoc. Mega will be very popular after the patch though, being able to fit 7 of its heaviest blasters, 1x large armour rep and a mwd without no powergrid mods And that setup will work without a CPU? I think not. EDIT: And it's cap will still suck.
mavskji	Posted - 2005.04.08 12:24:00 - [4] Sorry guys, I should have stated what I want the ship for. I want a ship for NPC & PvP. I am not a power player, I just want to have fun. I am more interested in why people enjoy flying their ship.
kwoodward	Posted - 2005.04.08 12:53:00 - [5] only differnce will be the mega actually can fit some ions, simmalar to the thorax and deimos. it will be a dangerous ship that actually can win short range battles without the OMG it's close action that occurs now (shooting a untanked ganka will be close as long as your only a few km away). Meow!
Quaren	Posted - 2005.04.08 12:56:00 - [6] Edited by: Quaren on 08/04/2005 12:56:13 Well I fly a megat. the problem is that the megat is worse then the apoc at everything except pointblank range pvp and lets face it, pvp these days is starting to become more and more sniper oriented. If you want to npc then the apoc is better and quicker atm. its tank is better, cap is better and it does way more damage atm when megapulses are so overpowered.(lets hope they nerf them enough but not too much in the patch) this doesn't mean that the mega can't pull it off though. I npc fine in my mega but the skills required are pretty high and you can't really pull it off without cap recharger t2s. atm I can only support 2 hardeners because I really need that extra cap relay. I am looking forward to the patch since then I might be able to fitt some bigger guns and the cap reduction is hopefully enough that I can get that extra hardener in there. every person I know that started with a mega has gone over to an apoc since it does pretty much every job alot better. But I like the challenge of not having the UBER ship and finding a setup that works + the mega is so much cooler then the apoc So if you want fun and don't just want to fly around like everyone else in a apoc go for the megat. if you like to just make cash without working at all go for the apoc. (ps. almost forgot the hassel of carrying ammo around)
mavskji	Posted - 2005.04.08 13:05:00 - [7] Thanks Quaren good reply. Right now I am feeling more drawn to the Mega purely on the coolness factor. Any Apoc pilots want to push me in the other direction ? In terms of long range combat how do the two ships compare ?
Snaieke	Posted - 2005.04.08 13:08:00 - [8] I qould go with a megat, in part because everyone seems to be flying apocs or ravens at current. However, the mega can also be an extremely good sniper ship when setuip correctly, and killer at close range. It also looks faaaaar cooler
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.08 13:58:00 - [9] MegaT is a fine fine ship only problem is that it requires a bit more skills and more thought into what you are going to fit on it. The apoc has the advantage that its easy to fit and use. NPCs a megathron with 425s can do very good dmg especially after the next patch. I dont really need to say anything about blasters after nextpatch cos they are going to be good. If you have good gunnery skills bship skills and like a challenge, then MegaT is the ship for you. Apocs are more user friendly and can tank to hell, but they still have lesser dmg output than a megathron So basically it depends on your style of play do you like good tanking or good dmg. Do you like to kill things fast with a bit of risk or kill things slow with less risk. I fly megas and apocs and I like my mega a lot better than apoc. Especially will love it after next patch . Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.04.08 14:25:00 - [10] blasterthron is best PvP ship in game imo B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Alowishus	Posted - 2005.04.08 14:39:00 - [11] I've been having fun with a Blasterthron on sisi (never flown one before). One thing I noticed is that fitting 3 NOS (in my case, one heavy, two medium) will beat the guys fitting a full rack of guns. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.04.08 14:46:00 - [12] Originally by: Alowishus I've been having fun with a Blasterthron on sisi (never flown one before). One thing I noticed is that fitting 3 NOS (in my case, one heavy, two medium) will beat the guys fitting a full rack of guns. B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2005.04.08 14:47:00 - [13] Blaterthrons will live again now. With powergrid no longer as an extra limiting factor on top of cpu you have alot more reasonable fitting abilities. For example an old fashioned blasterthron setup only with 5 enutrons and 2 ions will fit now with the MWD and injector included. You just need a cpu enhancer to make it work instead of the grid enhancer you needed before. And ofc, the mega on sniper setup can actually be awesome as well. I had mine on sisi up to a 100km optimal range with 425mm prototypes with thorium ammo and still 4 damage mods fitted. Nothing beats rails for optimal range. Altho their one-shot damage is pretty limited compared to tachyons for example.
Demangel	Posted - 2005.04.08 15:05:00 - [14] I'm interested in this as well as I recently started flying Amarr ships up to BC's. Long story short, the Prophecy is a god compared to the brut in everything I've tried it in (who knows after the patch though...). I literally HATE how Amarr BS's look, and always had a soft squishy spot for the MegaT with the exception of it's somewhat bland monochrome texture compared to other Gall ships... It's lines are however quite Battleship like. Kinda like the SDF1 from good ole robotech. On the other hand till I see what changes the patch brings, I'm very fed up with gall ships ATM. Sure we have plenty to boast about in the lesser classes, the Deimos for example, even the Rax is pretty badass ship. Too bad only the Deimos really stacks up in PVP for anything other than a pure tackler, but it's price makes it counter productive IMHO. Might as well just buy the MegaT and be almost about as effective but with good insurance payout right? I mean frigate wise, I'm a gall fan plain and simple. They do the job admirably even if some can do it better. I'd say the Apoc will probably STILL be the king of the mountain of non Caldari BS's after the patch, but the MegaT will (from what i can tell), within striking reach of being worth the price comparatively. So I'm undecided also, go wioth looks, and style and get points for having balls when I use a blaster setup, or go for the more evenly matched but ugly ship that won't get me any style points but instead just be "ooohhh look another Apoc." On the other hand, of the tier one BS's the geddon and the Dom, IMHO thats an even tougher call, I know the geddon is a gankers wet dream, but the dom can do some seriously nasty things with it's 15 heavies +Nos etc at a time. I know folks who love that ship in PVP. So with just a few million to go before i can conceivably step into a tier one BS, I'm undecided which way to go for my first one... Stick with what I'm starting to really like (Amarr), or go back to what I orriginally though was the coolest thing in the game till it turned out to be the hidden "hard mode" toggle for eve... Gall... Heck I could always try for "expert mode" and use a Min BS... LOL But god knows you won't catch me inside a raven unless it's a graphic bug... Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit.
kwoodward	Posted - 2005.04.08 15:07:00 - [15] dont listen to them rais on a mega is blashpemy!!! you have to be @1km fighting or it's not on btw i loves me mega (miss the caldari i win botton tho ) Meow!
mavskji	Posted - 2005.04.08 15:37:00 - [16] Thanks guys, sounds like the Megathron is the ship for me. Demangel on the BCs I fly both Prophecy and Brutix too. I much prefer the Brutix, Prophecy is great for NPCs because it has such a great tank but Brutix has mean damage with decent gunnery skills and is much more fun. Try this: Hi: 7x 200mm Mid: 1x tracking comp 2, 1x sensor booster 2, 2x Cap Recharger (I usually used Fixed-Prallel because theyre cheap and the rats drop loads) Low: 4x Mag Stab 2, 1x PDU
Alowishus	Posted - 2005.04.08 16:20:00 - [17] Originally by: Bad'Boy Originally by: Alowishus I've been having fun with a Blasterthron on sisi (never flown one before). One thing I noticed is that fitting 3 NOS (in my case, one heavy, two medium) will beat the guys fitting a full rack of guns. Do you ever anything usefull to say or does every post have to be crap? My setup has been working, even with Gallente BS at lvl 2 and Large Hybrid at lvl 1. If you have something to say then at least be somewhat insightful. At least there is some credibility in what I say because don't just troll post. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.04.08 16:32:00 - [18] Originally by: Alowishus Originally by: Bad'Boy Originally by: Alowishus I've been having fun with a Blasterthron on sisi (never flown one before). One thing I noticed is that fitting 3 NOS (in my case, one heavy, two medium) will beat the guys fitting a full rack of guns. Do you ever anything usefull to say or does every post have to be crap? My setup has been working, even with Gallente BS at lvl 2 and Large Hybrid at lvl 1. If you have something to say then at least be somewhat insightful. At least there is some credibility in what I say because don't just troll post. its all I can say about your post B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Alowishus	Posted - 2005.04.08 16:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Bad'Boy Originally by: Alowishus Originally by: Bad'Boy Originally by: Alowishus I've been having fun with a Blasterthron on sisi (never flown one before). One thing I noticed is that fitting 3 NOS (in my case, one heavy, two medium) will beat the guys fitting a full rack of guns. Do you ever anything usefull to say or does every post have to be crap? My setup has been working, even with Gallente BS at lvl 2 and Large Hybrid at lvl 1. If you have something to say then at least be somewhat insightful. At least there is some credibility in what I say because don't just troll post. its all I can say about your post is all I can say about all your posts. I challenge you to fight my blasterthron in another blasterthron and see if you can win because so far, none have. Have a nice day. Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000
Everay2	Posted - 2005.04.08 16:54:00 - [20] im sorta thinking the same thing, so, large railguns suck?
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.04.08 17:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Alowishus Originally by: Bad'Boy Originally by: Alowishus Originally by: Bad'Boy Originally by: Alowishus I've been having fun with a Blasterthron on sisi (never flown one before). One thing I noticed is that fitting 3 NOS (in my case, one heavy, two medium) will beat the guys fitting a full rack of guns. Do you ever anything usefull to say or does every post have to be crap? My setup has been working, even with Gallente BS at lvl 2 and Large Hybrid at lvl 1. If you have something to say then at least be somewhat insightful. At least there is some credibility in what I say because don't just troll post. its all I can say about your post is all I can say about all your posts. I challenge you to fight my blasterthron in another blasterthron and see if you can win because so far, none have. Have a nice day. lol ok...give me 1st tho B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Letifer Deus	Posted - 2005.04.08 17:18:00 - [22] Edited by: Letifer Deus on 08/04/2005 17:30:07 Originally by: Alowishus I challenge you to fight my blasterthron in another blasterthron and see if you can win because so far, none have. Have a nice day. I'll do it, anytime you want. I am the OG PIIIIIMP
Letifer Deus	Posted - 2005.04.08 17:28:00 - [23] Originally by: KompleX Edited by: KompleX on 08/04/2005 12:19:25 Edited by: KompleX on 08/04/2005 12:18:48 Originally by: MadGaz If you want it for npcing I'd go with an Apoc. Mega will be very popular after the patch though, being able to fit 7 of its heaviest blasters, 1x large armour rep and a mwd without no powergrid mods And that setup will work without a CPU? I think not. EDIT: And it's cap will still suck. Tank setups are stupid on blasterthron anyways. 7x neutrons, mwd, 7x dmg mods. That does fit. I am the OG PIIIIIMP
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.04.08 17:49:00 - [24] not with t2 guns, sorry. (except if you leave 3 med slot empty)
Cummilla	Posted - 2005.04.08 18:45:00 - [25] Megathron cap is kind '...' but then again I've never been bothered to tank any BS I've ever flown. Why wasn't geddon one of the options? Or i dunno. Hell, load up an apoc with tachs, MF crystals, heatsink2, maybe a tracking enhancer or 2. A couple tracking comps and a couple sensor booster2s in mids. Gankpoc is not exactly my favorite close in pvp ship, but I guess I've had too much Minnie lovin to retain any objectivity
JoCool	Posted - 2005.04.08 18:53:00 - [26] Edited by: JoCool on 08/04/2005 18:55:53 "What weapon do I require?" "For behold, I am the lion, I am the weapon." This is what Gallente veteran pilots live and die by. Go for the Megathron, your engine doesn't matter if the style's hot.
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.04.08 18:58:00 - [27] yup, gallente really have style... but sometimes it is not enough.
mavskji	Posted - 2005.04.08 19:13:00 - [28] Edited by: mavskji on 08/04/2005 19:13:31 My mind is pretty much made up now The reason the geddon wasn't an option is because I used to fly them, thats why I have Amarr BS lvl4 already. Just don't feel like using a geddon at the moment. I was drawn in by the huge cap & the ability to fit 7 tachyons on the Apoc with an RCU2 & the plain coolness of the Megathron. Coolness wins, I guess I would rather fight in a cool ship & have a smaller chance of survival than not fight in the cool ship If I learn to use it well I might not die too much anyway Thanks for all the replies.
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.04.08 22:02:00 - [29] Originally by: mavskji Edited by: mavskji on 08/04/2005 19:13:31 My mind is pretty much made up now The reason the geddon wasn't an option is because I used to fly them, thats why I have Amarr BS lvl4 already. Just don't feel like using a geddon at the moment. I was drawn in by the huge cap & the ability to fit 7 tachyons on the Apoc with an RCU2 & the plain coolness of the Megathron. Coolness wins, I guess I would rather fight in a cool ship & have a smaller chance of survival than not fight in the cool ship If I learn to use it well I might not die too much anyway Thanks for all the replies. Hehe you are def getting into the spirit of things. Th emegathron is not just abput being cool, its a totally different way of flying. especially if you are going for blasters, thers nothing like staring your enemy in the face while you kill him or get killed yourself. Its especially fun if you try warping in outnumbered and try to take em all on knowing its either you or them and that thers no runing away option. Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
MadGaz	Posted - 2005.04.09 09:28:00 - [30] Originally by: Alowishus Originally by: Bad'Boy Originally by: Alowishus I've been having fun with a Blasterthron on sisi (never flown one before). One thing I noticed is that fitting 3 NOS (in my case, one heavy, two medium) will beat the guys fitting a full rack of guns. Do you ever anything usefull to say or does every post have to be crap? My setup has been working, even with Gallente BS at lvl 2 and Large Hybrid at lvl 1. If you have something to say then at least be somewhat insightful. At least there is some credibility in what I say because don't just troll post. Won't work against setups that use cap injectors, which alot do. ------------------------------------------

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