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kessah	Posted - 2005.04.10 00:32:00 - [31] guerrilla warfare, i dun have alot of love for burn eden ive been in a gang trying to hunt them down but wcs are still a ligit mod for hit and run and thats what u do when your outnumber and outgunned. yeah its annoyin being on the recieving end but "dont hate the player hate the sport" comes to mind. -------------------------------------------------------- Im Your Huckleberry ;-)
Lilan Kahn	Posted - 2005.04.10 00:59:00 - [32] K:D ratio is over rated think mine is like 30 to 1 plz get over your self k thx now cookies and milk ? Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2005.04.10 01:02:00 - [33] As if this wasn't funny enought: 2005.04.09 22:14:00 Victim: Scuzz Corporation: BURN EDEN Destroyed Type: Cormorant Solar System: Agil System Security Level: 0.9 Involved parties: Name: Praetorias (laid the final blow) Security Status: 2.1 Corporation: Praetorian Guard Type: Armageddon The funny thing is, we are not at war ! And that guy is the CEO playing since 2003! What was he thinking. ----------------------------------------- Heinky> Dont mix eve with rl it can be bad for your health
Verone	Posted - 2005.04.10 01:19:00 - [34] Edited by: Verone on 10/04/2005 01:19:51 If I was a mod... i'd have locked this for being a trolling and flame filled pile of putrid crap by now. However i'm not, so... i'm going to divert you to this Link where i think you'll find most of the eve community's response to the amount of pure dribble that you alts and morons post. Stop polluting the forums with CRAP. COME AND SOCIALISE WITH US NASTY SNIGG BASTARDS AT : WWW.SNIGG.CJB.NET
Darth Tater	Posted - 2005.04.10 03:03:00 - [35] Originally by: Verone Stop polluting the forums with CRAP. Where would the fun in THAT be? ---- --- <Myren> someone ping flood this bastard please: 127.0.0.1 <darthv> ok *** darthv has quit IRC (Ping timeout)
Hyey	Posted - 2005.04.10 03:13:00 - [36] Edited by: Hyey on 10/04/2005 03:13:11 Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Hyey Actually its the stabs + damps + torps (all mindless modules mind you.) that usually ** people off I dont have a problem with BE's tactics at all, they just have egos that tend to collapse starsystems and crash nodes :/. Their tactics are extreme gank and go away but it works so there is no reason they should not use em. They still have an ego problem though lol. They are dangerous but getting a high kill vs death ratio as said before isnt difficult if you fit properly for it. Yes I have fought them personally, and no I didnt die (on 3-4 occassions mind you...cant remember anymore :/) 3 Please. We have had i think 4 skirmishes with ATUK and every time we have killed almost all of their ships. Not once did we outnumber you. Im not including the times we have ganked ur ships here. The fact is you were disoragnised and unprepared every time. People were warping in and out and as one ship went pop another would appear. We have larger than average EGOs because people like you think that you can get back at us for being better than you by smacking us on the forums. Our tactics are widely know throughout the universe, yet no one ever seems to do anything about it. So as long as you are happy to pass us off as a nusciance we will continue to have our way with you (that comment is directed at the general eve population). Wow.. 4.. and you won them all? Now this is the other part you have issues with. AN EXTREME memory. Ok im done :/ ~~ Hyey** I just payed 15 dollars this month just to be able to respond on the forums... stupid cancellation error.
Mister Lefty	Posted - 2005.04.10 04:07:00 - [37] Okay, confession time. I really only started this thread so I could ask Shin Ra out on a date. Admit it, she's kinda friggin hot. Especially when she's talking about her kill-death ratio. She's a woman, flesh and blood. Come on, Shin, whats a noob like me gotta do to get wit you, you sexy thing?
BlackHawk177	Posted - 2005.04.10 06:11:00 - [38] Originally by: Mister Lefty Okay, confession time. I really only started this thread so I could ask Shin Ra out on a date. Admit it, she's kinda friggin hot. Especially when she's talking about her kill-death ratio. She's a woman, flesh and blood. Come on, Shin, whats a noob like me gotta do to get wit you, you sexy thing? OMG....I can't say anything but LOL (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.04.10 08:25:00 - [39] nothing wrong with fitting stabs on big ships...its same as fitting lots of HSII on geddon but stabs on combat frigs=*** B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Tbone	Posted - 2005.04.10 08:32:00 - [40] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Cabal Leader Quoted from above: Please. We have had i think 4 skirmishes with ATUK and every time we have killed almost all of their ships. Not once did we outnumber you Ha ha hah hahahahahahahahhhaahhaaahhaahahaahhahaaha Bwahahahhahaahahahaaahaaahaahah. Thanks for the laugh... I was feeling a bit down today. I'm sorry, Ive forgotten which person own you, but would you care to disproove me. All the kills are on killboard.net U always log ur kills, but i know for a fact u forget a few losses. So try to log those on ur killboard and see ur numbers dwindle. ----------------------------------------------- Unholy Killboard
Shin Ra	Posted - 2005.04.10 12:46:00 - [41] First of all, Im a guy. Secondly, of course Ill go out on a date with you. Thirdly, I was not saying we have the best kill/loss ratio there is. I think SAS has one of the best. All the Red Alliance corps have better ones anyway. That is only one aspect of being a good pvpr. Everyone who has faught us knows the score, we don't have to lecture you. Tbone, not all of us post our kills on eve-kills so its a little off on the killmails as well as the deathmails. Thats why I suggested killboard.net it should have most of them. If you look at it you will see very few kills by ATUK on us. Perhaps a few frigs. Then look at the ATUK losses to us. Sure there are a couple of ganks, but notice how there is usually a lot of ships killed around the same time. Would that not suggest an engagement that we won? ----------------------------------------- Heinky> Dont mix eve with rl it can be bad for your health
Frakri Hogsto	Posted - 2005.04.10 23:56:00 - [42] /emote sighs..... BE are uber, everone else but red alliance sucks, BE can kill 57 bs's with only 3, they are invincible..................... Give it rest guys, your talking on the forums doesn't exactally boost your corps image. I like a few select people from BE, but why you have to post over and over about how good "you" consider yourselves to be is beyond me, just get on with game, and stop making yourselves look like idiots.
Kickass	Posted - 2005.04.11 01:42:00 - [43] Originally by: Frakri Hogsto /emote sighs..... BE are uber, everone else but red alliance sucks, BE can kill 57 bs's with only 3, they are invincible..................... Give it rest guys, your talking on the forums doesn't exactally boost your corps image. I like a few select people from BE, but why you have to post over and over about how good "you" consider yourselves to be is beyond me, just get on with game, and stop making yourselves look like idiots. Bow down to your master and lick my little piggie. But seriously we didnt start this thread and we didnt start saying anything about our superiority over everyone else until some ATUK noob brought it up. So please read the posts before you say we are starting the flame bait.
F'nog	Posted - 2005.04.11 02:06:00 - [44] Originally by: Kickass Originally by: Frakri Hogsto /emote sighs..... BE are uber, everone else but red alliance sucks, BE can kill 57 bs's with only 3, they are invincible..................... Give it rest guys, your talking on the forums doesn't exactally boost your corps image. I like a few select people from BE, but why you have to post over and over about how good "you" consider yourselves to be is beyond me, just get on with game, and stop making yourselves look like idiots. Bow down to your master and lick my little piggie. But seriously we didnt start this thread and we didnt start saying anything about our superiority over everyone else until some ATUK noob brought it up. So please read the posts before you say we are starting the flame bait. Might want to try reading the 3rd post then: Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 09/04/2005 02:34:32 Almost as funny as fighting 18 people with 2 bs and 2 frigs and coming out on top with no losses? Almost as funny as killing a couple of haulers, almost getting an apoc (mwd) and then realising the idiot in local is still npc hunting. Warping in landing 85k away from him and the frig still catching him? Almost as funny as killing a BB from 130k away with cruise and him not warping away? Almost as funny as killing the same guy 3 times in one battle? Finally, Almost as warping in at close range to 3x as many people and them running away. Burn Eden > You. P.S The crow with 2 stabs STILL died.
Tbone	Posted - 2005.04.11 03:05:00 - [45] Originally by: Shin Ra First of all, Im a guy. Secondly, of course Ill go out on a date with you. Thirdly, I was not saying we have the best kill/loss ratio there is. I think SAS has one of the best. All the Red Alliance corps have better ones anyway. That is only one aspect of being a good pvpr. Everyone who has faught us knows the score, we don't have to lecture you. Tbone, not all of us post our kills on eve-kills so its a little off on the killmails as well as the deathmails. Thats why I suggested killboard.net it should have most of them. If you look at it you will see very few kills by ATUK on us. Perhaps a few frigs. Then look at the ATUK losses to us. Sure there are a couple of ganks, but notice how there is usually a lot of ships killed around the same time. Would that not suggest an engagement that we won? I never said u didnt kill people, the fact is, u report as a CORP the kills, but i know damn good and well as m0o we killed ur frig one day, and it never got reported with the 1-3 others. So dont start that all dont use eve-Kills. We use our own and i log every loss and kill. If you want to be as good as me then u will do the same. ----------------------------------------------- Unholy Killboard
Shin Ra	Posted - 2005.04.11 05:17:00 - [46] Originally by: Tbone Originally by: Shin Ra First of all, Im a guy. Secondly, of course Ill go out on a date with you. Thirdly, I was not saying we have the best kill/loss ratio there is. I think SAS has one of the best. All the Red Alliance corps have better ones anyway. That is only one aspect of being a good pvpr. Everyone who has faught us knows the score, we don't have to lecture you. Tbone, not all of us post our kills on eve-kills so its a little off on the killmails as well as the deathmails. Thats why I suggested killboard.net it should have most of them. If you look at it you will see very few kills by ATUK on us. Perhaps a few frigs. Then look at the ATUK losses to us. Sure there are a couple of ganks, but notice how there is usually a lot of ships killed around the same time. Would that not suggest an engagement that we won? I never said u didnt kill people, the fact is, u report as a CORP the kills, but i know damn good and well as m0o we killed ur frig one day, and it never got reported with the 1-3 others. So dont start that all dont use eve-Kills. We use our own and i log every loss and kill. If you want to be as good as me then u will do the same. Yeah I am saying your killboards are more accurate than ours. Not only do some of us not post our death mails, but some ppl dont even post their killmails! Hence, yours will be more accurate. Do a search for BURN EDEN and look at our kills vs losses against ATUK. I brought this up after that atuck guy comes on and says we suck donkeys. To the CLS guy: A guy comes on and imples that because some of us use stabs we such, when we just raped their fleet. Would you just say, oh yeah we suck? Or would u argue back? ----------------------------------------- Heinky> Dont mix eve with rl it can be bad for your health
F'nog	Posted - 2005.04.11 06:16:00 - [47] To the BE girl, If you were referring to the OP, where did he ever say BE sucked? He was pointing out the irony that BE makes fun of people for using the very setup they do. That's what I call funny.
Kickass	Posted - 2005.04.11 09:11:00 - [48] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Kickass Originally by: Frakri Hogsto /emote sighs..... BE are uber, everone else but red alliance sucks, BE can kill 57 bs's with only 3, they are invincible..................... Give it rest guys, your talking on the forums doesn't exactally boost your corps image. I like a few select people from BE, but why you have to post over and over about how good "you" consider yourselves to be is beyond me, just get on with game, and stop making yourselves look like idiots. Bow down to your master and lick my little piggie. But seriously we didnt start this thread and we didnt start saying anything about our superiority over everyone else until some ATUK noob brought it up. So please read the posts before you say we are starting the flame bait. Might want to try reading the 3rd post then: Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 09/04/2005 02:34:32 Almost as funny as fighting 18 people with 2 bs and 2 frigs and coming out on top with no losses? Almost as funny as killing a couple of haulers, almost getting an apoc (mwd) and then realising the idiot in local is still npc hunting. Warping in landing 85k away from him and the frig still catching him? Almost as funny as killing a BB from 130k away with cruise and him not warping away? Almost as funny as killing the same guy 3 times in one battle? Finally, Almost as warping in at close range to 3x as many people and them running away. Burn Eden > You. P.S The crow with 2 stabs STILL died. Sorry, but what is your point? Everything Shin Ra said here is true, and he just set the battle field scenario. He was not braging just stating the facts, we no longer consider such engagements anything special its a daily occurance.
Mac Knife	Posted - 2005.04.11 10:05:00 - [49] I think i must be the only player in eve to think that BE actually have some brains So what, they use ravens with 5 wcs and sensor dampners. OMG they can take on 2-3 time their numbers and come out on top, so its not the most honourable way of fighitng and they might run away, so what? they survived to fight another day and you or your mates didn't. BE 4tw!
Shin Ra	Posted - 2005.04.11 13:36:00 - [50] I just can't believe anyone is saying good things about us? I always thought everyone in EVE hated us? Also, the point of warp core stabs is to be able to get away when scrambled. Clearly the crow pilot didn't do this. ----------------------------------------- Heinky> Dont mix eve with rl it can be bad for your health
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.04.11 13:39:00 - [51] Originally by: Shin Ra I just can't believe anyone is saying good things about us? I always thought everyone in EVE hated us? Also, the point of warp core stabs is to be able to get away when scrambled. Clearly the crow pilot didn't do this. You are good what you do, even though you wave the e-***** around a bit to much sometimes.
Ivilb Itch	Posted - 2005.04.11 17:11:00 - [52] Warpcore stabs are a ECM system, an instrument of Electronic warfare. Frustrating, yes, but not more so than a set of backup arrays when you try to jam someone. ________________________________ Victim of unnatural selection
Cummilla	Posted - 2005.04.11 19:28:00 - [53] Originally by: Mac Knife I think i must be the only player in eve to think that BE actually have some brains So what, they use ravens with 5 wcs and sensor dampners. OMG they can take on 2-3 time their numbers and come out on top, so its not the most honourable way of fighitng and they might run away, so what? they survived to fight another day and you or your mates didn't. BE 4tw! Nah, BE are good pvpers. These other halfwits critizing them can't stop long enough to be arsed to see that all they really should be doing is figuring out how to tackle a 5 wcs equipped raven instead of whining here about it.
Zandramus	Posted - 2005.04.11 19:53:00 - [54] Edited by: Zandramus on 11/04/2005 19:56:48 you know the biggest problem with alliance warfare is the lack of tacklers. Burn Eden simply use that to their advantage. I saw this down in Stain, no coordination of forces, everyone wants to use a BS, no one wants to fly frigs ,and no one uses the Stain TS server. This leads to one thing Dead Stain BS's Oh and its not the Raven that kills you its Shin Ra tackling you that kills you. Kill their tackler and you get to live. Its not that BE are any better than anyone else its that the alliances atm are unorganised and crappy pvp'ers. I have seen this with so many alliances now, if you dont fly together every day and dont use TS then you are gonna lose alot of ships , end of story. Zandramus Zandramus Parking Violations Officer Geminate Division S.A.S
RollinDutchMasters	Posted - 2005.04.11 20:11:00 - [55] Edited by: RollinDutchMasters on 11/04/2005 20:55:53 Originally by: Mac Knife I think i must be the only player in eve to think that BE actually have some brains So what, they use ravens with 5 wcs and sensor dampners. OMG they can take on 2-3 time their numbers and come out on top, so its not the most honourable way of fighitng and they might run away, so what? they survived to fight another day and you or your mates didn't. BE 4tw! Noone is saying that it isnt a smart way to fight. They're combining several modules and weapon systems in a painful need of rebalance to be extremely effective. I don't really like it, but I'll be the first to say that it's the safest, most effective way to fight. The annoying part is one, that they have Fragm (the most annoying part), and two that they think other people aren't using the same tactics because they cant or theyre not smart enough. Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
Cummilla	Posted - 2005.04.11 20:45:00 - [56] If it took two points of scrambling strength to counter ONE WCS then I would see the whines regarding the "imbalance of WCS" in a different light. But reality is the exact opposite of that situation. Now you'll never see me using a WCS because my understanding of the game and my PREFERENCES do not involve gimping my damage\cap\grid\etc like you do with WCS. BE's preferences are to cut and run repeatedly harrassing the enemy who hangs around whilst interpreting BE's hit and run as a "weakness." That "interpretation" on BE's enemies part is the only thing "out of balance" in this whole deal. If they were to correct that problem of perception then they might be able to move on to the real challenge which has been touched on by other already...ie, tackling.
Scythmar	Posted - 2005.04.11 20:50:00 - [57] Amazing how they use WCS and still have a bad kill to death ratio...hint maybe? --------------- I guarantee that my opinions are the complete opposite of those of my corp and alliance. Get over it.
Dark Big	Posted - 2005.04.11 22:41:00 - [58] if i added all my frig losses i think i would crash the eve-kills.com web site
Shin Ra	Posted - 2005.04.11 22:59:00 - [59] Originally by: Scythmar Amazing how they use WCS and still have a bad kill to death ratio...hint maybe? Mabey Xetic could teach us a lesson there. ----------------------------------------- Heinky> Dont mix eve with rl it can be bad for your health
Kickass	Posted - 2005.04.12 04:53:00 - [60] Originally by: Scythmar Amazing how they use WCS and still have a bad kill to death ratio...hint maybe? Well I am not exactly sure where it is you are looking to see our bad kill/death ratio. Perhaps your kill boards? Anyways the reason we get killed is because unlike most people in this game when we have 3 we find the blob of 15 and engage it. Most of the time we get kills, sometimes we get killed. Not to mention the fact that some members, o say Heinky/Lord Tickaden like to warp in 15km away from fleets and try to kill a target while being fired at by 30 people. They pull one of these at least once a week, they dont like isk especialy when its in their wallet.

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