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XO Kahn Ching
Legions of Pretoria
Hoist The Colors
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Posted - 2012.11.05 16:49:00 -
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Ok fellow eve pilots, i am at a crossrod hear where i want to build something in eve but need some help from pvp corps and indy corps as well to do this. I love this game cause you can do almost anything in the game, my favorite part is trying to build something, but i feal like i am a lone ranger on this particular situation.
So i get into talks with both pvp and pve corporations and i hear all kinds of excuses on why they do not want to join we are to small, our killboards are not active, we dont have enough space, etc.... I mean i dont lie and i tell people we are a building alliance made up of a few friends, and if our alliance is to small then come join us and grow the ranks, if our killboards suck then join us and teach or help us get them up, if we dont have enough space its because at this time we dont need more if you want to join and we need more space we will get more. We are building not already built, i mean were are the corps out there that actually want to create something and not just join a already existing alliance.
So if there is any corp still out there that are not to afraid of joining something new and helping to build it from the ground then well convo me in game. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.05 17:16:00 -
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I will build your corporation for you.
Applying now. |
Tallian Saotome
Papercut Syndicate
847
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Posted - 2012.11.05 17:33:00 -
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Who are you affiliated with, politically?
Are you planning on being a nullsec corp? Do you have ANY goals beyond 'building your alliance'?
Why should anyone join you other than 'building your alliance', what do you have to offer people who join?
EVE is a risky game, why increase risks by throwing in with someone who is going to piddle around and achieve nothing?
I don't say this to discourage you, I wish you great luck, but these are questions you need to have answers to if you want people to join you.
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XO Kahn Ching
Legions of Pretoria
Hoist The Colors
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Posted - 2012.11.05 17:39:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Who are you affiliated with, politically?
Are you planning on being a nullsec corp? Do you have ANY goals beyond 'building your alliance'?
Why should anyone join you other than 'building your alliance', what do you have to offer people who join?
EVE is a risky game, why increase risks by throwing in with someone who is going to piddle around and achieve nothing?
I don't say this to discourage you, I wish you great luck, but these are questions you need to have answers to if you want people to join you.
yes we plan on being a nullsec corp. and yes we have goals beyond building an alliance ( if you would like to know them convo me), And we have goals that would make us a good alliance if others would join, and we can offer a few things to people who join that would benifit them.
and as to your last quote how would you know if we are just going to piddle around and achieve nothing unless you try us out. i do not plan on just sitting iddely by and wait for something to happen i want to go get involved with the wars and help our allies. I want to make a mark for this alliance and all that will be involved with it in eve. |
Tallian Saotome
Papercut Syndicate
847
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Posted - 2012.11.05 18:00:00 -
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From your OP, you have no discernible plan. Whether this is true or not, EVE is a game of perception, and anyone who you approach with the 'we are a bunch of friends just trying to make a name' is likely to look at the friends they already have.
Think of it as a business, and anyone you are trying to recruit as a potential investor. You need drive, ambition, and a clear cut business plan, and you need the be able to project that in a first impression without needing to provide any information.
Your OP reads as 'why is everyone so mean to me and unwilling to join my space guild?'
I am not going to join you, purely because I am happy with the group of friends I already have, and I know my CEO is solid, both in management skills and in planning.
You don't seem to have a strong enough personality to cut it as the boss, and as the CEO of a nullsec alliance people have to have confidence that you will make the hard decisions that can screw your friends in favor of the alliance as a whole.
You may want to study at the feet of a successful alliance leader before you start your own, and study the history of EVE to see the downfalls of the unsuccessful ones.
Last post unless I feel the need to comment on someone elses post for trolling this, but good luck.
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XO Kahn Ching
Legions of Pretoria
Hoist The Colors
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Posted - 2012.11.05 18:30:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:From your OP, you have no discernible plan. Whether this is true or not, EVE is a game of perception, and anyone who you approach with the 'we are a bunch of friends just trying to make a name' is likely to look at the friends they already have.
Think of it as a business, and anyone you are trying to recruit as a potential investor. You need drive, ambition, and a clear cut business plan, and you need the be able to project that in a first impression without needing to provide any information.
Your OP reads as 'why is everyone so mean to me and unwilling to join my space guild?'
I am not going to join you, purely because I am happy with the group of friends I already have, and I know my CEO is solid, both in management skills and in planning.
You don't seem to have a strong enough personality to cut it as the boss, and as the CEO of a nullsec alliance people have to You may want to study at the feet of a successful alliance leader before you start your own, and study the history of EVE to see have confidence that you will make the hard decisions that can screw your friends in favor of the alliance as a whole.
the downfalls of the unsuccessful ones.
Last post unless I feel the need to comment on someone elses post for trolling this, but good luck.
LoL in the rl i own a buisness that is very successfulll. I have studied at the feet of great eve rulers. I have played this game since 2004, I have a clear cut plan and am will to talk to any that convo me and want to know it. I will not however tell anyone what the plan is on here.
As far as me not having what it takes to rule a nullsec alliance that is but one oppinion, i have had others tell me different. I have studied how great powers have gained controll in this game and in our world history. I do relize this may look and seem like a post that is nothing more than a cry for help, and maybe in some small way it is. Let us be honest with ourselfs now who better to rule the masses one that will kill and sluaghter anyone that gets in thier way even corps and allies (this didnt work for -A-) or one that shows compasion for its members and wants to create a alliance that can grow and build upon itself maken a alliance that all of the members that are involved with it will love and enjoy. A alliance that has morals and will stick by its word to others until the day the alliance dies and fades away.
I am willing to do what is neccesary to make this alliance be a great organization. I want to fight and make the choices that have to be made that will better this alliance. Finally i say to you sir you are a fool, and think in things as only black and white, you fail to see the gray that still lies beneath. |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
356
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Posted - 2012.11.05 18:42:00 -
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Not to discredit you or anything, but what 0.0 experience do you have? I can quite assure you that even if you are a 2004 player, landing in null is going to have a series of challenges you can't even imagine exist. That goes from everything from the complexity of sov mechanics right to diplomacy and knowing who's who in the political landscape. You have to have the logistical capability to live there ( a couple of carrier pilots isn't going to cut it). Unless you have a titan to bridge in your freighter for your ihubs, you can't even take reliable sov. You can move it via gates, but of course, that's another challenge in itself.
Anyway, I wish you luck. Just trying to point out things that you may (or may not) have overlooked.
People were constantly telling me I was crazy. For a long time I didn't believe them, but after a while, I started to think they might be right.
But it turns out that they were all wrong. One of the voices in my head is a psychiatrist and he says I'm perfectly sane. |
XO Kahn Ching
Legions of Pretoria
Hoist The Colors
0
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Posted - 2012.11.05 19:00:00 -
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Crunchmeister wrote:Not to discredit you or anything, but what 0.0 experience do you have? I can quite assure you that even if you are a 2004 player, landing in null is going to have a series of challenges you can't even imagine exist. That goes from everything from the complexity of sov mechanics right to diplomacy and knowing who's who in the political landscape. You have to have the logistical capability to live there ( a couple of carrier pilots isn't going to cut it). Unless you have a titan to bridge in your freighter for your ihubs, you can't even take reliable sov. You can move it via gates, but of course, that's another challenge in itself.
Anyway, I wish you luck. Just trying to point out things that you may (or may not) have overlooked.
I thank you sir for the things you are talking about and have thought about them in great deal and i have lived a great deal of time in sov space and help run corps and sov alliances before. I know and am ready to accept any challenge that may come forth and provide me with fun in the game. While others may enjoy shooting other ships or doing indy for money i like to look at things tactically and make a good plan. I also love a challenge, if i did not then i would have no buisness being in a leadership possition at all. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5480
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Posted - 2012.11.05 19:27:00 -
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tell me, what alliance structure do you find ideal
~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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Red Teufel
Blackened Skies
Nulli Secunda
102
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Posted - 2012.11.05 22:24:00 -
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....so why are you asking for advice? or you asking for handouts? pitty? |
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Trit
Q-Tech Solutions
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Posted - 2012.11.06 00:29:00 -
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There are only about 5-6 allainces in this game that matter. If your not in them, you must be aligned with one. This makes you a pet, soft blue, ally or whatever term is applied. You can carve out an existance in low sec without significant friends, however in null the big boys will eventually not take kindly to your presence in what they see as their space so be prepared to evac at a momoents notice and be be prepared to take losses. But it is a thrill to carve out a spot etc.
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Ventro69
Manson Family
Corcoran State
100
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Posted - 2012.11.06 05:05:00 -
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I live in Pretoria and I'm not familiar with your legions.
Ventro69: There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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Lucy Oreless
Raptus-Regaliter
EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2012.11.06 08:34:00 -
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Dont listen to all the nay-sayers in here, they are mostly just a bunch of confused bittervets clinging to the dream of pixel-fame  and too one day leave their moms basement 
And to be fair, this is also the reason you should ask elsewhere. CAOD and C&P is mostly trolls, missfits and -A-holes (myself included).
Like your idea though.. Sounds like a challenge, and challenges are good.
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Mathrin
Synthetic Solution
Synthetic Systems
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Posted - 2012.11.06 13:55:00 -
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In my experience perception is key. You may be a smart person but when someone reads your posts and notices spelling and grammar errors they assume you are not intelligent. My rule is to always proof read. That's one of many little things atleast. |
Crunchmeister
THORN Syndicate
THORN Alliance
357
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Posted - 2012.11.06 18:28:00 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:Dont listen to all the nay-sayers in here, they are mostly just a bunch of confused bittervets clinging to the dream of pixel-fame and too one day leave their moms basement And to be fair, this is also the reason y ou should ask elsewhere. CAOD and C&P is mostly trolls, missfits and -A-holes (myself included). Like your idea though.. Sounds like a challenge, and challenges are good.
Normally I would agree with you 100%. But in fairness, I haven't seen any real "negative for the sake of being negative" replies here so far. I'd even say all responses were uncharacteristically civil and respectful considering this is CAOD, and all very valid and helpful. (Really, what the hell is going in with CAOD? Did I step into an alternate universe? )
Everyone is bringing up valid points. The OP is a bit vague - calling for a bunch of people from all walks of Eve to join him, yet offering very few details. When read in itself, it sounds very much like a longtime Empire citizen deciding it's time to gather a merry bunch of corps together in a new alliance and happily set out to the Promised Land of Milk and Honey known as 0.0 without having any real experience or solid plan. And it seems like that's how the post was taken by most who bothered to reply. Whether or not that's the case, Tallian made the very valid point that Eve is a game of perception. And the perception we get from that OP is that it's well meaning, but has a lot of missing details.
People were constantly telling me I was crazy. For a long time I didn't believe them, but after a while, I started to think they might be right.
But it turns out that they were all wrong. One of the voices in my head is a psychiatrist and he says I'm perfectly sane. |
OMGFRIGATES WARPOUT
Article 47
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Posted - 2012.11.06 22:07:00 -
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Perception if everything.
You are claiming to have played the game since 2004 and yet your posting with a month old alt.
You misspelled business, successful, opinion, ourselves, realize, slaughter, compassion, and control. Its okay if English isn't your primary language but hire or detail someone that is to help you go over your post prior to them going public. |
Rastino
Mystic Squad
eVolution Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.12.11 00:02:00 -
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Why build when itGÇÖs more fun to burn. By the way can one of you borrow me some matches as the hot nurse took mine. |
Lucy Oreless
Raptus-Regaliter
EntroPraetorian Aegis
61
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Posted - 2012.12.11 10:55:00 -
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Rastino wrote:Why build when itGÇÖs more fun to burn. By the way can one of you borrow me some matches as the hot nurse took mine.
eeeewww..... how necro of you 
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Johnnie Blue
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM
Silent Requiem
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Posted - 2012.12.27 13:44:00 -
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What is this place... I'm cold, I feel my soul draining... can't remember anything before here. Got... to... get... out............
Na really. Just wandered into this part of the forum for the first time and it seems to feed on the hopes of those brave enough to post here. And I thought GD was bad ;-)
I'll be off now, back to my tour of the eve online forums. Good luck OP.
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