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Hana Solo
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Posted - 2005.04.10 03:58:00 -
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Are there ever any 1 vs 1 battles out there in 0.0 anymore or is it always just gank squads and patrol squads? Any chance that a newbie solo pirateer can make it out there and earn a decent living? Or is it just a waste of time?
I'm not a new player, but I am new to pvp. Been a carebear since the game started, but I'm just sooooooo bored now. There's really no point to a grind so its time fore a change. I don't have the hours at a time to spend joining organized gank squads or long hunting groups, so chances are I'll be soloing it almost exclusively.
Any chance that a solo player like me can survive out there without loosing more than he gains? Any 0.0 regions that would be the best region to start? Any advice from you experienced 0.0'ers out there would be appreciated.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.04.10 05:26:00 -
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Edited by: Righteous Fury on 10/04/2005 05:26:24
I solo pirate all the time, just pick your battles and don't take on more than you can chew. Thats the basic advice to give really, know when to fight and know when to run. And its okay to die too, if you're not ready to be podded with your main, start a new char that you can expend just learning the ropes.
You'll gain the rest of your experience in the field.
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operated
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Posted - 2005.04.10 11:20:00 -
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Well solopirating is doable in 0.0 . I just advice you to get into a frig , or tech 2 frig .I dont recommend flying a bs into any 0.0 . Its full of gankers nowadays . Might be best you joined a piratecorp and become a ganker to . 
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Haitchi Allamut
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Posted - 2005.04.10 11:28:00 -
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Try Syndicate :) But there will always be ganksquads in 0.0... So be carefull.
Cheers.
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2005.04.10 12:03:00 -
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I think CCP envisioned that people would work together, but I can see how you may wanna be a lonewolf.
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Shamen
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Posted - 2005.04.10 12:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Haitchi Allamut
Try Syndicate :) But there will always be ganksquads in 0.0... So be carefull.
Cheers.
"try syndicate n die"
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2005.04.10 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: operated
Well solopirating is doable in 0.0 . I just advice you to get into a frig , or tech 2 frig .I dont recommend flying a bs into any 0.0 . Its full of gankers nowadays . Might be best you joined a piratecorp and become a ganker to .
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.04.10 13:49:00 -
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my sister?.
d solo.
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Mr Jay
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Posted - 2005.04.10 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
my sister?.
d solo.
She obviously got all the looks, then
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Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2005.04.10 15:47:00 -
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Syndicate is pirate region arent it atm?
I mean theres total outlaw
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Karoth Tyu
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Posted - 2005.04.10 15:54:00 -
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Syndicate isn't entirely a "pirate region", but chances are if you go out there you're going to get shot in the ass real fast.
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MEKKA
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Posted - 2005.04.10 16:20:00 -
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Hana,
This topic has come up before and this is what advice I have for you. To be a pirate means that everyone will be gunning for you at the first site of you in local so what you need to do is learn how to survive. Pirating is all about knowing game mechanics like when to safespot, when does aggro wear off, and when am I being baited or not. These things can only be learned by joining a pure pvp corp and leanring how to survive. What you need to pvp experience and without it you will lose ships like a son of a B****. Now for 0.0 pirating I think that syndicate would be youre best bet but then again there is always the Curse region and that was is great for interceptor pirating. Also some other methods for pirating. if you don't care about youre sec status you can always set 15 km from a gate thta is aligned with another when a target of opporutnity comes you can activate your 6 smart bombs, or you can snipe, or you can tank sentrys until the target is down. All of thes techniques with the exception of sniping requires multiple wcs incase youre opponet has scrams fitted. But I honestly would consider getting pvp experience before going into pirating.
Thats just my advice..............
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Rivek
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Posted - 2005.04.10 16:50:00 -
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I would recomend you start the way I did. Get a frig or cruiser, think of a fitting, and go find people to shoot! I started in empire assuming (rightly so) that it would be easier for me to beat the people there. Don't believe the people who say you have to be in a group to get started. Ultimately you will want to join up with like minded people (you can do 5x as much with 2 as you can alone) but you should learn the ropes solo imo. Plus most or all pirate corps wont take newbies who they cant rely on in a fight, or who may not be trustworthy having not "earned your colors" through podding lots of alliance members or innocent miners in empire.
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Posted - 2005.04.10 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Jay
Originally by: darth solo
my sister?.
d solo.
She obviously got all the looks, then
LOL
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Hana Solo
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Posted - 2005.04.10 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Hana Solo on 10/04/2005 21:31:11
Originally by: darth solo
my sister?.
d solo.
hm...cousin maybe?
Thanks for all the advice all. I've recently went thru a 0.0 trek. wow that was fun, but never once did i see something that wasn't a gank squad........ :(
hm....guess EW will be the *only* way I'll survive out here. Should be fun
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piercer
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Posted - 2005.04.11 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Hana Solo
Edited by: Hana Solo on 10/04/2005 21:31:11
Originally by: darth solo
my sister?.
d solo.
hm...cousin maybe?
Thanks for all the advice all. I've recently went thru a 0.0 trek. wow that was fun, but never once did i see something that wasn't a gank squad........ :(
hm....guess EW will be the *only* way I'll survive out here. Should be fun
Maybe daughter?
EW will be good till tommorow when it gets nerfed, then you'll have to figure it all out etc.
But as your just starting then it should be good to have changes as you can adapt to them instantly.
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LittleTerror
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Posted - 2005.04.11 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: LittleTerror on 11/04/2005 15:32:06
If you have a battleship then tank the sentrys at gates and stations in 0.4 and below, you don't normaly get much but sometimes you can get lucky  Learn to use the ships built in scanner and warp to planets NOT moons as there can be a POS setup around it and they hurt alot.... By setting your scanner to angle 5 and zooming out on your ship then aligning your ship with say a roid belt you can see what is in that belt befor even going there. Alot of people just like to warp through each belt but that can get you into a bit of bother if your alone, you would look pretty stupid warping into 3 battleships and getting blown to bits.
Scanning the belts and other locations in space this way is much faster if you do it correctly, this gives you more time which is great. As you don't have time to mess about if you want to get your target, who will quickly log/dock/safespot as soon as they notice you are there in local. If you do find there location and feel confident that you can handle them then warp to the belt. When I do this if there more than 25KM from me I'll start firing straight away as there likely to get away and the chance of getting loot will be gone. If there within warp scamble distance I'll try to ransom based on there ship type, if they don't pay they die simple, if there way out 100km. I'll try to bookmark a cargo can that is near by them
then warp to a planet and back to the can works allmost everytime 
If your setup to tank the sentrys you will be able to follow them to jump gates and stations should they do so. Then warp after them turn on hardeners then destroy them they allready gave up there chance to pay you besides ransoming people at gates is next to impossible
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.04.11 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Shamen
Originally by: Haitchi Allamut
Try Syndicate :) But there will always be ganksquads in 0.0... So be carefull.
Cheers.
"try syndicate n die"
It worked well for me.
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Rasta Rocketman
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Posted - 2005.04.11 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Shamen
Originally by: Haitchi Allamut
Try Syndicate :) But there will always be ganksquads in 0.0... So be carefull.
Cheers.
"try syndicate n die"
lol, I still get kicks out of responses like this.
to the original poster,
Yes 0.0 is full of gankers. I'd say use intercepters primarily until you get to know your area. You can always fly battleshps alone and hope for a 1v1 but it is extremely risky. Most herd fighers have 10 guys waiting next door to jump in after you're scrambled so choose your battles wisely.
Oh yea, and be prepared to be smacked if you run from their 10v1 fight. :)
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General Dahak
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Posted - 2005.04.11 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: General Dahak on 11/04/2005 17:36:08
Edited by: General Dahak on 11/04/2005 17:34:50
Originally by: Karoth Tyu
Syndicate isn't entirely a "pirate region", but chances are if you go out there you're going to get shot in the ass real fast.
Not entirely true. Of course i may have been out there on a particular quiet day, and in a area that is quiet but i was roaming around MHC-R3 an towards Poitot, also a few jumps in the direction of Solitude and i saw only 5 in local for 2 hours. This was mid week and i know the weekends are busier but you can get out there without hassle.
But i guess it would have been pretty boring to be a pirate there at that time.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.04.11 19:12:00 -
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Some good thoughts here, ie Mekka's post and the guy who said prepare to be smacktalked for not being baited or by the pure sheitalkers who whine when you SS from their 10 v 1 odds.
You just gotta be impervious to being baited as a solo pilot. And that is damn hard sometimes.
I've SS when I outnumbered them 3 to 2. But then again it was I still believe a good call on my end because the relative capability of my force versus their wasn't where I want it to be in order to move forward with a gank attempt.
It's a tough call.....are you being too passive or not daring enough? The answer comes from two things: 1) Are you having fun, and 2) Look at your kills -- Are they coming along or has it been a long long time?
#2 is pretty subjective and depends on playtime and where you fly, etc.
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Haitchi Allamut
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Posted - 2005.04.11 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Originally by: Shamen
Originally by: Haitchi Allamut
Try Syndicate :) But there will always be ganksquads in 0.0... So be carefull.
Cheers.
"try syndicate n die"
It worked well for me.
Hehe, me to, didnt see one """hardcore""" VOTF there, so I wouldnt worrie to much, Hell Even if i did see them I wouldnt worrie to much. Cheers :D
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.04.11 22:22:00 -
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95% of the people you encounter in 0.0 are cowards and will either run away or lure you into a gank. If you do catch someone off guard chances are they will have more stabs then you can counter.
Be warned, it's the most challenging type of play in EVE. Everything including the game mechanics and other players work completely against solo play.
On the plus side, the thrill and satisfaction is quite rewarding...that and you don't have to split the loot
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.04.11 23:02:00 -
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Stay in empire and ransom miners. Never underestimate the ability of people to totally fold when you act crazy and give them no chance of escape. You don't even need guns. Scorp is the best ship for this because it can tackle the world. Use an alt in a probe with mining lasers to bookmark a location, then go in, tackle them and above all, ACT CRAZY!
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shadyfox99
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Posted - 2005.04.12 02:07:00 -
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i havent empire pirated for a while, but ransoming people in low sec space can yeild some isk, and it IS a lot of fun also. just remember your timer last about 15 minutes, so unless you can tank the sentries, dont go near them. And also, be weary of angry miners who try to gank you, although you can probably take them, they pull some surprises sometimes.
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RollinDutchMasters
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Posted - 2005.04.12 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Stay in empire and ransom miners. Never underestimate the ability of people to totally fold when you act crazy and give them no chance of escape. You don't even need guns. Scorp is the best ship for this because it can tackle the world. Use an alt in a probe with mining lasers to bookmark a location, then go in, tackle them and above all, ACT CRAZY!
Yeah, if you want to solo-pirate in a battleship, a scorpion is the best choice. Not a lot of miners in .1-.4 have the CPU for a decent tank, so 4 siege launchers is usually sufficient (unless they log. which they will. it is the single biggest reason that solo piracy is not viable, although there are a ton of horrid game mechanics that you will grow to hate).
Last time I was solo-pirating, I was running:
4x Siege
1x Large Named Kinetic SB
1x Heavy Nos
1x 100mn MWD
2x Warp Scrambler
1x Webber
4x ECM Multi
1x Medium Armor Rep
1x CPR
2x WCS/Backup Array II/CPR
Worked nicely, that scorp chalked up a good 30 battleship kills solo, including large chunks of several carebear fleets.
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tearaway nymph
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Posted - 2005.04.13 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Haitchi Allamut
Try Syndicate :) But there will always be ganksquads in 0.0... So be carefull.
Cheers.
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Pyr8
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Posted - 2005.04.13 12:01:00 -
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Camping gates is far more rewarding if you have the patience, you just need to learn the game mechanics first.
Convo me ingame, and I will be happy to give you some free advice to get you started on your path of ebilness
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Ander
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Posted - 2005.04.13 12:15:00 -
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Solo piracy is far more rewarding then 0.0 ganking.
- You dont need to share the loot.
- You dont need to act like a wimp.
- You dont need to act like a complete wimp.
- You dont need to act like an alliance wimp.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.04.15 18:23:00 -
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if you want to start piracy, start in empire, but don't pod too often(ss goes up slowly even if chaining 750k rats... ). Best option is probably cruiser, as there is lots of n00bs testing their precious AFs, which can easily be killed or ransomed. You can also try some gate hauler ganking, but from my experience i never got anything good.(best loot was 17k juggers, and even those went pop).
0.0 solo piracy is pretty ruined, as map is not working and it is kindda hard to find miners & rat hunters, and chances of runing into blob is too high.
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