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Lubricious Cain
Black Ice Recon
4
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Posted - 2012.11.07 17:40:00 -
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Has anybody found the loss of standing with the opposing faction to be of any problem? Is that how people are tending to choose which militia to join, or are there other considerations before you decide? |
Mhax Arthie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.11.07 17:57:00 -
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svenska flicka wrote:Mhax Arthie wrote:Does anyone have a link where I can read about how FW works in detail? I ask for something more comprehensive than the evewiki wich is covering only the very basic aspect of the FW. I wanna try FW soon as it sounds more exciting than the pointless battle in the null sec... at least FW is about lore and defending you nation, not other people egos and wallets. join an FW corp. learn faster and more fun of the bat. So far nice people, compared to 0.0 peeps 
I'm sure, but for now I prefer a npc corp, so I need to figure out by myself how things work in FW. And I have a lot of questions without answers.
My bigest concern in FW is the diplomacy. I'm gallente but lately I got attracted by the amarr lore and their beliefs, so I would join their cause and fight to crush the minmatars. But at the same time, I don't wanna mess with the caldari as I have a deep respect for their nation and politics. Problem is that caldari is helping the minmatars... so how can I avoid a conflict with the caldari and also join the amarr war? I kinda hate to fight against nations/people I dont really like to fight...  And ffs, why the amarr and caladari fight each other, both nation politics are based on fanaticism and dictatorship while gallente and minmatar fight for freedom... something is not right. |
Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
1401
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Posted - 2012.11.07 18:16:00 -
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Recent recruit into the 24th shouting out :D
The Drake is a Lie |
Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
1401
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Posted - 2012.11.07 18:19:00 -
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Mhax Arthie wrote:svenska flicka wrote:Mhax Arthie wrote:Does anyone have a link where I can read about how FW works in detail? I ask for something more comprehensive than the evewiki wich is covering only the very basic aspect of the FW. I wanna try FW soon as it sounds more exciting than the pointless battle in the null sec... at least FW is about lore and defending you nation, not other people egos and wallets. join an FW corp. learn faster and more fun of the bat. So far nice people, compared to 0.0 peeps I'm sure, but for now I prefer a npc corp, so I need to figure out by myself how things work in FW. And I have a lot of questions without answers. My bigest concern in FW is the diplomacy. I'm gallente but lately I got attracted by the amarr lore and their beliefs, so I would join their cause and fight to crush the minmatars. But at the same time, I don't wanna mess with the caldari as I have a deep respect for their nation and politics. Problem is that caldari is helping the minmatars... so how can I avoid a conflict with the caldari and also join the amarr war? I kinda hate to fight against nations/people I dont really like to fight... And ffs, why the amarr and caladari fight each other, both nation politics are based on fanaticism and dictatorship while gallente and minmatar fight for freedom... something is not right.
They don't, you have the entire political landscape backwards
Amarr and Caldari are allied
Also try reading up on the Khanid Kingdom. They have stronger ties with the Caldari than the main Amarr Empire and thus have better missile tech. This is why all of the black and blue T2 Amarr ships designed by the Khanid Navy have missile slots and bonuses instead of lasers.
The Drake is a Lie |
Ryhss
Clandestine Management Group
28
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Posted - 2012.11.07 18:25:00 -
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IMO, FW should be 100%% PVP. I was going to join to get away from missions. Imagine my suprise that FW is loaded with missions.  |
Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
1401
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Posted - 2012.11.07 18:28:00 -
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Ryhss wrote:IMO, FW should be 100%% PVP. I was going to join to get away from missions. Imagine my suprise that FW is loaded with missions.
Well you don't have to do any. Just go cap outposts and stay on your toes for people showing up :D
The Drake is a Lie |
Mhax Arthie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.11.07 18:36:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:...
Amarr and Caldari are allied
Also try reading up on the Khanid Kingdom. They have stronger ties with the Caldari than the main Amarr Empire and thus have better missile tech. This is why all of the black and blue T2 Amarr ships designed by the Khanid Navy have missile slots and bonuses instead of lasers.
Dammit, I have missread it : amarr is at war with minmatar and with their allies the gallente instead of the correct version amarr is at war with minmatar and their allies the gallente. Now all makes sense, thanks! Will be fun to fight minmatar and gallente as.. gallente :P
And thanks for the sugestion, I kinda rushed the game without giving enough importance to the lore. Time to catch up. Thanks again. |
ACE McFACE
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
861
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Posted - 2012.11.07 22:09:00 -
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Lubricious Cain wrote:Has anybody found the loss of standing with the opposing faction to be of any problem? Is that how people are tending to choose which militia to join, or are there other considerations before you decide?
Depends on who you join, for me in the Amarr militia the only loss for me is Gallente and Minmatar space, which I never visit anyway (but I do love those Gallente stations). But if you join Gallente or Minmatar you're effectively locked out of the two biggest trade hubs in the game, still Dodixie and Rens are fine for buying the things you'll need
"No one drove in New York, there was too much traffic." |
Wulongpie
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.11.07 23:28:00 -
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I am probably missing it, but can one attack/be attacked in HighSEC? |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
896
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Posted - 2012.11.07 23:47:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:By the gods, a positive thread in GD.
The mayan prophecy was right!
Yer back dude? - awesome !!
On topic: hope this is true.
brb |
svenska flicka
The World is Flat
Jean-Luc Picard.
113
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Posted - 2012.11.08 00:07:00 -
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Lubricious Cain wrote:Has anybody found the loss of standing with the opposing faction to be of any problem? Is that how people are tending to choose which militia to join, or are there other considerations before you decide?
No problem thus far, even for trade hubs I do not fin any problem and in corps if you dont have alts they will have someone that can buy and move stuff for you from jita etc.
There were many considerations for us and me joining FW, most turned out to be nothing to worry about and a lot of the concern I have heard about FW this and that mostly turned out to be a bunch of BS and I am loving it. So far all our guys seem to love it too and I have yet to meet anyone in FW currently that is bitching and whining. |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
27
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Posted - 2012.11.08 00:10:00 -
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Wulongpie wrote:I am probably missing it, but can one attack/be attacked in HighSEC?
Yes, and is cool.
Opposite militia memebers can attack one each other anywere.
Also, if you enter an opposite faction high-sec NPC navy attack you... well, is more verbal, as you enter the syste, they start to insult you and threat in broadcast "you, enemy of the amarr empire, leave now, scum , bla bla" then they slowly start to approach, then they slowly web, then they start to weakly shoot. Not a big issue, there's plenty of time to move away.
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svenska flicka
The World is Flat
Jean-Luc Picard.
113
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Posted - 2012.11.08 00:11:00 -
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Sura Sadiva wrote:Wulongpie wrote:I am probably missing it, but can one attack/be attacked in HighSEC? Yes, and is cool. Opposite militia memebers can attack one each other anywere. Also, if you enter an opposite faction high-sec NPC navy attack you... well, is more verbal, as you enter the syste, they start to insult you and threat in broadcast "you, enemy of the amarr empire, leave now, scum , bla bla" then they slowly start to approach, then they slowly web, then they start to weakly shoot. Not a big issue, there's plenty of time to move away.
Or blow them up  |
Wulongpie
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.11.08 00:16:00 -
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Looks like I am signing up as soon as I get home. Sounds like a blast. |
Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising
56
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Posted - 2012.11.08 07:03:00 -
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Ryhss wrote:IMO, FW should be 100%% PVP. I was going to join to get away from missions. Imagine my suprise that FW is loaded with missions.
No. Because plexing LP for ISK is exactly the reason for lots of targets and PvP in the FW battlezone. |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
85
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Posted - 2012.11.08 09:17:00 -
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Vaal Erit wrote:There's still some more good fixes on the way in Retribution but I agree. Right now FW is the best part of EVE, way better than 0.0. I only wish there was a pirate FW faction that was at war with all 4 factions, yarrrrr!
We are trying to take that role :D |
Mhax Arthie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.11.08 10:19:00 -
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Tthis topic wins, 10/10. I thought that all the drama is only outside the empire while the real fight was just right at my door. Somehow I had the feeeling that FW is some kind of "scripted" RP pvp, in some ways similar to the pvp tournaments... I had no idea that is so massive and fun. Just started to read upon and I already have a blast seeing how complex an massive is.. I just need to sort out some personal issues and then I will jump right into the battle... this gonna blow!
Thanks Xercodo for the sugestion to read up about the Khanid Kingdom, I just realised how blind I was all this time. And the EVE lore is just awesome. If I just could have enought time to read all of it, seems to be more impressive than BSG or any Clarke trilogy. Now I'm busy!! |
Verlaine Glariant
Amphysvena
0
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Posted - 2012.11.08 10:32:00 -
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I'll gladly join FW with my corp when CCP lets me join Sansha's Nation.
Looks fun, but still needs more pirate factions.
www.amphysvena.org |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
465
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Posted - 2012.11.08 11:44:00 -
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I wouldn't mind checking FW out but my corp/alliance wouldn't be up for it, i think Anyway it's nice to know people are enjoying the changes CCP make. I hope they don't stop adding to it for at least 2 more expansions.
They see me trolling, they hating... |
Speedkermit Damo
TETRA-HEDRON
6
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Posted - 2012.11.08 12:01:00 -
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I'm pleased I have read this thread.
I have been toying with the idea of joining FW for some time. Seeing as I ended up joining a corp where nobody ever logs in after I completed the tutorials, it will be nice to to be able to do things with other players at last.
This thread has helped me decide. When I log in later this evening I'm going to quit my corp and join FW. The Minmatar will have a new recruit. |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
612
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Posted - 2012.11.08 12:22:00 -
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I also have been toying with the idea of trying some FW.
Our little PvP corp might make a visit at some point. Can a corp join and leave FW without any issue or will it permanently destroy our standings with the opposite factions? Also, does really bad corp faction standing stop its members from entering that faction's space?
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
27
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Posted - 2012.11.08 12:44:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:I also have been toying with the idea of trying some FW.
Our little PvP corp might make a visit at some point. Can a corp join and leave FW without any issue or will it permanently destroy our standings with the opposite factions? Also, does really bad corp faction standing stop its members from entering that faction's space?
Standing loss is for shooting at enemy faction NPC, I think is the same amount as for mission agaisnt a faction. On the other side the boost you get with your faction militia seems huge to me.
Nothing prevent you entering enemy faction space. Only problem are in high sec systems faction navy NPC bugging you after some time, but they're lite and easy to skip.
But why the standing toward NPC corporation is such a concern for many? There's no real bad effect or something youc annot do. And after some time EvE universe starts to have more sense for you, with homelands, frontieers and borderlines.
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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
4
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Posted - 2012.11.08 12:44:00 -
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Corps pop in and out of FW all the time
You can't join if your corp's standing is too low re the faction you want to join
You will trash your standings re the opposing faction(s)
You can still entire the opposing faction's space (even hisec) but the local navy will get grumpy to you
You can't activate cloaks in the opposing faction's hisec space
You can't dock in the opposing faction's FW zone
but
It's awesome fun, my other toon lives for FW |
svenska flicka
The World is Flat
Jean-Luc Picard.
113
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Posted - 2012.11.10 20:07:00 -
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Ruskarn Andedare wrote:Corps pop in and out of FW all the time
You can't join if your corp's standing is too low re the faction you want to join
You will trash your standings re the opposing faction(s)
You can still entire the opposing faction's space (even hisec) but the local navy will get grumpy to you
You can't activate cloaks in the opposing faction's hisec space
You can't dock in the opposing faction's FW zone
but
It's awesome fun, my other toon lives for FW
Still only got positive experiences with it.
If anything, I think all people new to the game should start with FW, such an easy way to get into EVE compared to highsec and 0.0 |
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