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Kickass	Posted - 2005.04.13 05:23:00 - [61] Originally by: Lorth Originally by: fugazii from the original post "We then mentioned a Supremacy pilot had done the same thing when under attack by us. Task Malloc of Supremacy, asked us to post our proof. Here it is:" its more of an answer made public by request of spurm. since it is about a corporation this is the right forum to make the post in. as requested by task malloc proof was brought forth, whether it be old or new has no relevence to this discussion. you say it was one member not a group, which also can be said about the post regarding xetic(obviously theyre much bigger therefor more than one member). condeming the whole alliance for a few's actions yet saying your sparred of the guilt because it was only one of u not your whole corp is completely unfair. while the ability to condemn your corp for logging isnt an issue anymore due to the fact he isnt in corp, nonetheless the proof was brought forth as requested. it seems every post [be] make is automaticly dismissed as an attention grab regardless of the information theyre putting out, even in this case if its requested by one of your members. i know where the bitterness comes from,..the effectiveness of how they fight, ive fought w/them and against them. whether u agree w/thier strategy or not nonetheless its effective and irritating. Fair enough, but why make a new thread about it? Come on, if you can't see this for anything more then an attention grab then... It isn't an answer, its nothing more then a thinly vield attempt to flame. Had it been an answer it would have been posted on the original thread. And yes, the fact that its a new thread, and the video its self was nothing more then a promotioal video for BE makes me think that this was an flame/attention grab. Not with standing the oddels of other posts we have seen which are blatenly obvious attempts at saying look at us we are uber... More like a promotional video for Supremacy... Join us and you too will be UBER enough to log out in battle and deny it on the forums. And even if you get cought we have enough members to back you up!!! The reason its under a new thread is because the other one is 10 pages long, who wants to read all that crap.
fugazii	Posted - 2005.04.13 05:35:00 - [62] Originally by: Lorth Originally by: fugazii from the original post "We then mentioned a Supremacy pilot had done the same thing when under attack by us. Task Malloc of Supremacy, asked us to post our proof. Here it is:" its more of an answer made public by request of spurm. since it is about a corporation this is the right forum to make the post in. as requested by task malloc proof was brought forth, whether it be old or new has no relevence to this discussion. you say it was one member not a group, which also can be said about the post regarding xetic(obviously theyre much bigger therefor more than one member). condeming the whole alliance for a few's actions yet saying your sparred of the guilt because it was only one of u not your whole corp is completely unfair. while the ability to condemn your corp for logging isnt an issue anymore due to the fact he isnt in corp, nonetheless the proof was brought forth as requested. it seems every post [be] make is automaticly dismissed as an attention grab regardless of the information theyre putting out, even in this case if its requested by one of your members. i know where the bitterness comes from,..the effectiveness of how they fight, ive fought w/them and against them. whether u agree w/thier strategy or not nonetheless its effective and irritating. Fair enough, but why make a new thread about it? Come on, if you can't see this for anything more then an attention grab then... It isn't an answer, its nothing more then a thinly vield attempt to flame. Had it been an answer it would have been posted on the original thread. And yes, the fact that its a new thread, and the video its self was nothing more then a promotioal video for BE makes me think that this was an flame/attention grab. Not with standing the oddels of other posts we have seen which are blatenly obvious attempts at saying look at us we are uber... if your unwilling to accept the proof, why ask for it in the first place? tho i understand it could hav been posted in the other thread, but that thread has long overrun its course. they were making it public, as u did for xetic. putting it in a 10 page thread would expose it to few ppl aside from those who are crusading for the nvr ending battle for the last word. like i said before it seems [be] are the only ones who are nvr allowed to make a thread.
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.04.13 05:36:00 - [63] Lame thread dragging up old stuff about a guy who's not been in Supremacy for a couple of months, I totally fail to see the relevancy. This thread is a complete waste of bandwidth "oh look, you must be as lame as us because someone who was once in your corp did....". Yawn. Eve Blacklight Style
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2005.04.13 06:14:00 - [64] Almost as relevant as that link to the lower right of this message. Clicky! Anti-Semitism in the Arab Media
EL TITAN	Posted - 2005.04.13 06:25:00 - [65] Originally by: Svabbi k lol, was it el tit an that logged off ? mmm if i was¦t so tired i would watch the film :) are you that retarded????? he said it was TESK MALLOC, HEY IF YOU CANT WATCH THE VIDEO, AT LEAST LEARN HOW TO READ FFS _________________________________________________ <3 hi
The Enslaver	Posted - 2005.04.13 06:27:00 - [66] Originally by: EL TITAN Originally by: Svabbi k lol, was it el tit an that logged off ? mmm if i was¦t so tired i would watch the film :) are you that retarded????? he said it was TESK MALLOC, HEY IF YOU CANT WATCH THE VIDEO, AT LEAST LEARN HOW TO READ FFS You must be quite slow, he says Tesk Malloc asked for the proof. -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2005.04.13 06:44:00 - [67] Birds do it. Bees do it. Even educated pvp'ers do it. Let's do it, let's all log-offffffff! LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
gggh	Posted - 2005.04.13 06:48:00 - [68] I logged last night. After docking in station. Can I get my own video????
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2005.04.13 06:50:00 - [69] Originally by: gggh I logged last night. After docking in station. Can I get my own video???? Was the station a University? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2005.04.13 06:56:00 - [70] Originally by: Shamen Forces of Evil are using this too, we had two apocs log on us two days ago was very annoying :( CCP need to introduce something to counter this. excuse me? My vids and random stuff
Fire Lotus	Posted - 2005.04.13 07:07:00 - [71] Edited by: Fire Lotus on 13/04/2005 07:25:34 Originally by: Maule showing a 2 month old video of some guy logging off in combat and the guy aint even in the corp anymore and then asking for an apoligy is rather stupid dont you think ? Umm Mr Maule, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer if you know what I mean? The light is on but nobody is home, get my drift? OMIGOD! Dude give it up!
Altai Saker	Posted - 2005.04.13 07:36:00 - [72] Generally speaking I think logging is the 2nd lowest you can sink in combat... The lowest is burn eden tactics, so honestly, I wouldnt care if everyone you attacked logged to save their ships.
Ohmite	Posted - 2005.04.13 08:02:00 - [73] Is it me or is this thread a waste of time now!!!! If the proof was given two months ago while the member was in Supremacy then this member would have been reprimanded as we all agree in SUPRMEMACY that logging off to save ship is totally wrong. We have seen it happen to us on numerous occassions by various corps - not going to name them as we all know who do it and it sucks. SUPREMACY try and act professionally although it seems a few people on these forums seem to think otherwise and spread gossip and half truths hoping some of the mud sticks. If people have issues about certain people in SUPREMACY logging off then contact our CEO and the matter will be looked into. I say again if Burn Eden had given this evidence 2 months earlier then this matter would have been dealt with. We pride our selves on our PVP ability, very little smack talk and mutual respect to our enemies who stay and fight - Ask JQA, after the VV-V wars we had nothing but admiration for their resolve in trying to keep there homeland. The other night in E8, Supremacy logged off some pilots just so XETIC would fight and they did and afterwards a member of XETIC come on our TS and thanked us for a good fight. So please post facts that are relevant, if it shows SUPREMACY acting un professionally we WILL act on it, if we can. This thread shows an ex member of SUPREMACY logging, if it was proved he may have got kicked but as he is left we cant do anything except to say it is not what SUPREMACY do Ohmite
CEO Rockhound	Posted - 2005.04.13 08:08:00 - [74] Originally by: Shin Ra This thread is in regards to the recent logoff tactics employed by the Xetic federation to escape ganks by forces of Supermacy, Shinra and ATUK ganksquads ravaging through Immensia. These forces were getting extremely annoyed at Xetic pilots logging off with their tank going and logging on an alt to make their main char vanish really quickly. Bah.. that don't work no more. I have tried it, to check a few weeks ago. I moved 2 pilots to same planet. Logged off one, and logged in the 2nd. I then saw the other dude at the planet for some sec's before he warped away. I think that is to bad, because it is a nice way to get away from people out to destroy other peoples fun. On the other hand, some dude named Bad'Boy, (or about that) that pirated catch (Hed-Curse) a lot some weeks ago did the same thing.. His scrambled frig dissapeared infront of some missiles with his name on them.. This is a trick Curse Alliance learned all people in EVE, and as far as I know 'hibernate-cloaking-tool' is lot better than the log-on-traps you pirates are so good at.. All carebears out there : LOG OFF at every chanse you get! Norsk Gruvedrift. We will rock you.
Hast	Posted - 2005.04.13 08:42:00 - [75] Originally by: CEO Rockhound Originally by: Shin Ra This thread is in regards to the recent logoff tactics employed by the Xetic federation to escape ganks by forces of Supermacy, Shinra and ATUK ganksquads ravaging through Immensia. These forces were getting extremely annoyed at Xetic pilots logging off with their tank going and logging on an alt to make their main char vanish really quickly. Bah.. that don't work no more. I have tried it, to check a few weeks ago. I moved 2 pilots to same planet. Logged off one, and logged in the 2nd. I then saw the other dude at the planet for some sec's before he warped away. I think that is to bad, because it is a nice way to get away from people out to destroy other peoples fun. On the other hand, some dude named Bad'Boy, (or about that) that pirated catch (Hed-Curse) a lot some weeks ago did the same thing.. His scrambled frig dissapeared infront of some missiles with his name on them.. This is a trick Curse Alliance learned all people in EVE, and as far as I know 'hibernate-cloaking-tool' is lot better than the log-on-traps you pirates are so good at.. All carebears out there : LOG OFF at every chanse you get! I dont care if I get another warning here, but read my post in general discussion. You are one of the biggest ****s around and I hope you quit
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2005.04.13 08:57:00 - [76] While you're corporation considers itself pvp'ers and utilizes the advantage of 5 warp core stablizers, you're words and comments will be riddiculed and ignored. Reverend Necrona
Nytemaster	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:00:00 - [77] I know many ore thieves from State of the War Academy, Federal Navy Academy, and Science and Trade Institute just to name a few. Does this mean that those people reflect these institutions as a whole? Of course not. These are honorable corporations dedicated to the training of new space pilots. I am sure your own corporation has taken in a few bad apples and felt the need to expel or ask those people to leave. If you have not then either your corporation is filled with pitiful people or has very few members. Needless to say, the author of this thread had to dig up something that happened two months ago and with a single member that is no longer with the corporation in question. The real question is whether or not this is standard practice among Supremacy pilots. It has been condemned by them in the past and on other threads regarding such tactics. A two month old incident does not in any way prove your argument. If you can show a pattern of behavior than that may be a different story. Supremacy has stated that there have been "patterns of behavior" of these logoff tactics in recent weeks from people they have been fighting. Unless you can do the same these allegations are nonesense and digging up a two month old incident really shows how far you are stretching to make a point. Nytemaster
Hastrabull	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:55:00 - [78] Well I have one question. What about people that crashed while in fight? I am crashing very often when jumping through gate or when lag is going high. I lost several ships to this. Will you call me bad man then? :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Nepereta	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:57:00 - [79] who cares.. logging off is something that happens. Its no biggie, it makes a ganking a divine art form.
Ohmite	Posted - 2005.04.13 10:10:00 - [80] Crashing is one thing and is a problem but can not be described as lame as the person is not trying to exploit a bug. Logging off to save ship is lame - no matter how you dress it up. If you think it is a valid tactic then that explains a lot. I dont think we need to say any more Perhaps that is why there is a dislike for Xetic by a number of corps if you state this is a valid tactic Ohmite
Svabbi k	Posted - 2005.04.13 10:14:00 - [81] Originally by: EL TITAN Originally by: Svabbi k lol, was it el tit an that logged off ? mmm if i was¦t so tired i would watch the film :) are you that retarded????? he said it was TESK MALLOC, HEY IF YOU CANT WATCH THE VIDEO, AT LEAST LEARN HOW TO READ FFS I am truly , well not overly much, but yeah, sorry. I was indeed tired and about to go to sleep when i asked that question. It just hit me that you were that type of a guy that would do something like that, thats all.
Tholarim	Posted - 2005.04.13 10:29:00 - [82] jezus,mthis is to funny. A 5 man corp can control all their members. A 100 active players corp can't. Painkeeper was a friend of a long standing member of supremacy. He joined at the time to be trained a bit in pvp and 0.0 operations. Suffice to say, not everything vcan be taught, and wortking without ts did not improve things with him. all in all, he did log off. And he's not in supremacy anymore. Now he might not have been kicked out for logging off. But he prolly was kicked for not participating or meeting certain standards. Anyways nice showing a movie which is not at all relevant anymore at this point in time. You guys in fact, still use 5 wcs. That hasn't changed. Ohhhh btw, how are you guys liking your damps now
Halod Crane	Posted - 2005.04.13 10:55:00 - [83] funny that you should ask us about the changes. You should ask your AUK friends they will tell you about them. Anyway we are really liking the changes. Have fun. "Keep It Real" "Its all about the Blob"
Neon Genesis	Posted - 2005.04.13 11:21:00 - [84] LOL lets all declare war and throw sticks at burn eden! Seriously, wat a pointless topic. 2 months old = no credibility. You = no credibility. __ There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
mk ultra	Posted - 2005.04.13 12:45:00 - [85] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Almost as relevant as that link to the lower right of this message. Clicky! as relevant as any of the post made by nebba would have been better :P ------------------------ <Beeth> Girls are like internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken. <honx> well, you can stil get one from a strange country :-P
mk ultra	Posted - 2005.04.13 12:51:00 - [86] Edited by: mk ultra on 13/04/2005 12:52:18 Originally by: EL TITAN Originally by: Svabbi k lol, was it el tit an that logged off ? mmm if i was¦t so tired i would watch the film :) are you that retarded????? he said it was TESK MALLOC, HEY IF YOU CANT WATCH THE VIDEO, AT LEAST LEARN HOW TO READ FFS read the first post carefully i will paste the good part for you so you can read it again : Originally by: Shin Ra We then mentioned a Supremacy pilot had done the same thing when under attack by us. Task Malloc of Supremacy, asked us to post our proof. Here it is: Think before smacking . RTRD!!! ------------------------ <Beeth> Girls are like internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken. <honx> well, you can stil get one from a strange country :-P
Scythmar	Posted - 2005.04.13 13:02:00 - [87] Originally by: Kayosoni Originally by: Dark Big if you log out when we are shoting you and i am around. be ready for a nother video staring you. ONOS. Seriously, why must you make a whole post about 1 guy logging off? It happens to us ALL the time, and do we make a topic every time? NO. Why? Because people in your corps act as tho anyone who does it is scum (which...tbh...they are, but I've never done it), then you proceed to have your own members do it. Don't point the finger when the finger could just as easily be pointed at you. mkay? --------------- I guarantee that my opinions are the complete opposite of those of my corp and alliance. Get over it.
Tobruk	Posted - 2005.04.13 13:02:00 - [88] it's like someone from XF joining supremecy 2 months before this conflict and then having XF say that they are getting killed because they are being shot up by there own members. or it's like a dish washer that shoots tacos in other words it's ******* absurd ----------------------------------------------
Scythmar	Posted - 2005.04.13 13:09:00 - [89] Originally by: Neon Genesis LOL lets all declare war and throw sticks at burn eden! Seriously, wat a pointless topic. 2 months old = no credibility. You = no credibility. Personally, I don't like BE either. They pretty much suck in all regards. However, in this particular case...I think they were asked to prove something and they did. And now that it is out, everyone says "boo hoo, you have no credibility, despite the fact that you just showed us a video of it happening, even tho we say we don't do it". Who's the one without the credibility? (NOTE: This doesn't imply that BE are anything but scumbags, with no credibility...just pointing out...that in this particular case...they might be right) --------------- I guarantee that my opinions are the complete opposite of those of my corp and alliance. Get over it.
Liare	Posted - 2005.04.13 13:25:00 - [90] Originally by: CEO Rockhound Originally by: Shin Ra This thread is in regards to the recent logoff tactics employed by the Xetic federation to escape ganks by forces of Supermacy, Shinra and ATUK ganksquads ravaging through Immensia. These forces were getting extremely annoyed at Xetic pilots logging off with their tank going and logging on an alt to make their main char vanish really quickly. Bah.. that don't work no more. I have tried it, to check a few weeks ago. I moved 2 pilots to same planet. Logged off one, and logged in the 2nd. I then saw the other dude at the planet for some sec's before he warped away. I think that is to bad, because it is a nice way to get away from people out to destroy other peoples fun. On the other hand, some dude named Bad'Boy, (or about that) that pirated catch (Hed-Curse) a lot some weeks ago did the same thing.. His scrambled frig dissapeared infront of some missiles with his name on them.. This is a trick Curse Alliance learned all people in EVE, and as far as I know 'hibernate-cloaking-tool' is lot better than the log-on-traps you pirates are so good at.. All carebears out there : LOG OFF at every chanse you get! you know, if i say find a way that will allow me to destroy ships with near impunity in Empire, escaping CONCORD almost with every time. whould it not be a exploit ? 0.0 Space is "free" if i desire to destroy your ship (for personal profit,fun or just the heck of it) i have the possibility to do so. surely anybody who know these rules of the game and venture out there equip and expect such. it is about the Risk/Reward. there are great rewards in 0.0 space, but just as big risks. these Logoff "exploits" allow somebody to get out of a situation where they whould have died if they dident. i atleast take my deaths as a man and accept em. can you say the same ? _____________________________ Ex-Coretech, We still shoot people.

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