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PhazerHawk
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Posted - 2003.07.05 13:20:00 -
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I'm sorry CPP but I am.
With the last patch you guys went too far. It seems as though this game is heading towards the carebear side not to mention everything has been slowed quiet abit.
Anyway..I'll give you guys a chance. I'll not quit yet..but.. if everything stays the same on the next main patch I will.
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DarK
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Posted - 2003.07.05 13:25:00 -
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Why cant you post in one of the 400 other indentical topics? and quit using that carebear word!
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.05 13:28:00 -
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Carebear, carebear, carebear!
Jehova, Jehova, Jehova! ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Mongoose
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Posted - 2003.07.05 13:38:00 -
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u guys are missing the point - this is a pay-to-play game..... and since they keep screwing the game up over and over again some people will just go to other games like shadowbane, swg, PE, and others. u notice that this game is only on one "world" and the peak population is between 5-6k, well what about all the "rave" reviews this game has had?????? --- word is already out that its buggy as hell and just getting worse so peeps aint coming here.... --- u can flame me all u want but the truth is the truth, and the truth is this game is slowly but surely going down the toilet..... too many bugs(Anarcy online) too much nerfing(DAOC) - need i say more?
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Rogue Noir
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Posted - 2003.07.05 13:38:00 -
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Right so your ****ed of because combat has become more tactical and less "get the biggest ubergun,bugged skill and bugged moduals and kill each other in 4 seconds? If so then im sure the majority are glad to be rid of you, cpold hard but true. EVE is meant to include PvP ofc it is, but its not a twitchfest like freelancer, its meant to be tactical, combat is not mean to be over that quickley, if anything I think it should last longer. ----------------------------------------------- Shady trader, fence and gentleman extrordionaire.
Noir Enterprises Site |

Setec
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Posted - 2003.07.05 13:43:00 -
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I'm a pirate and I liked most of what went into the last patch a lot, especially the changes to NPC loot tables and the changes to slow down combat.
I do think that the sentry guns in 0.1-0.3 space are very inappropriate and seriously imbalance the risk vs reward of commodity trading. ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |

Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.05 13:50:00 -
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What's tatical about flying outside the empire space in 0.0 and searching 20 belts, 10 planets, one sun and 4 stargates for an opponent and never meeting him? Oh wait, I could become one of the suckers and try to gang invite him.
What's tatical about being even in 0.0 and getting a security hit in an ongoing large scale battle each time the original agressor redocks from a station? Oh wait, I could try to declare a war on a mega corp with 100 members and wait 24h to make a small assasain attack.
What's tatical about getting a security hit 20 seconds after someone attacked you, but being in a different solar system? Oh wait, best tactics is to let him go or wait until he attacks you again. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

DarK
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Posted - 2003.07.05 13:56:00 -
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Molly Wrote:
Carebear, carebear, carebear!
Jehova, Jehova, Jehova!
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Beetlejuice, beetlejuice, beetlejuice!
But seriously though, people use carebear way to often:) Drives me insane(r)
I think this is the best patch so far. The game has become far more interesting to play...
I now have to think about what to put on my ship, not just what everyone else uses(eg Moa 2 multispectrals etc etc)
Dont complain untill you have tried new options and given it some time! People complain as soon as there is a change..why cant people adapt?!
I havent much to comment about about the security rating situation though, might be a tiny bit too harsh. We will have to wait a few days to really see. Might give pirates the oppurtunity to actually think of some new tactics orso:)
Edited by: DarK on 05/07/2003 14:01:28
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Setec
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Posted - 2003.07.05 14:01:00 -
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One change that needs to go in: NO security hits in 0.0 space for anything except podkilling. ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |

Rogue Noir
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Posted - 2003.07.05 14:03:00 -
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Hi
Molly it seems to me you do not have one shred of imagination in your entire body, ive said this before and il say it again, instead of coming here and moaning, try thinking about how you play the game, if setec can make a good living from piracy why cant you?
Bye ----------------------------------------------- Shady trader, fence and gentleman extrordionaire.
Noir Enterprises Site |

Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.05 14:14:00 -
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Rogue, it seems that you don't know me and my way to earn money so get lost please :P. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Rhonstet
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Posted - 2003.07.05 14:18:00 -
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"One change that needs to go in: NO security hits in 0.0 space for anything except podkilling."
Why? Is the target any less destroyed? "I blew you up, but the only person who will know is your clone"?
But Setec is right that the consequences for actions in low-sec space need to be diminished somewhat. People in low-sec space may be pirates, but that's what people in low-sec space do: their actions out there are less dangerous then pirates in higher sec space. Can the current sec rating system handle the change though?
I'm starting to think the best way of handling Sec Ratings is to handle them as a group of numbers, not just one. The current sec rating system is unfair to pirates and bounty-hunters.
More importantly, the current system of a single number in the character's description is also insufficient to portray their reputation. When viewing someone, you should be able to know if they mostly hunt any PCs (very low sec rating vs. Concord) or if they are privateers feeding off a certain empire (extremely low sec vs. that empire).
That way, you could better represent illegal activity, and give Concord and other NPCs better AI: Concord might not care if that privateer is moving in their own empire, but they might care a lot if that privateer starts moving into their target empire's space.
In the meantime, maybe the character's reputation with all groups should be known, not just a single number? The Monkeysphere |

Rogue Noir
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Posted - 2003.07.05 14:19:00 -
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I think not, for in a few weeks, I will hav even more ships, even more cash and most importantly I will be having more fun, whereas I have no doubt you will still be blundering about these boards whining on about one thing or another, as you are one of the players that will not be happy untill CCP make the game exactly what YOU want it to be like. All of your posts are either malicious ramblings directed at CCP or silly and non constructive posts aimed at the games players and personally, I beliv that you will not be around for long, as you dont have that mental capacity needed to enjoy this game(was that malicious? well I do belive it was, o well:P). ----------------------------------------------- Shady trader, fence and gentleman extrordionaire.
Noir Enterprises Site |

Xylan Aquil
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Posted - 2003.07.05 14:25:00 -
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I don't like the new superhighway. It was good to have to travel far as an exploration voyage, now I cannot do that.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.05 14:26:00 -
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Rogue, you are obviously not able to understand my posts.
I made several suggestions here with my second post:
- Give us deep space scanners (you can read this also in Idea Lab forum).
- Disable security rating penalties in 0.0 systems outside the core empires.
- Give us a timer for battles, e.g. once you get attacked you have the right for e.g. 15 minutes to shoot back wihtout security rating penalty.
Furthermore I doubt you have read all my posts.
I think you are an alt of the Spectral Armada idiots I've talked to in the bounty channel. In that case: **** you.
Edited by: Molly on 05/07/2003 14:32:59 ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Rogue Noir
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Posted - 2003.07.05 14:33:00 -
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I belive I have read all I have to, aside from that, your ideas, the first is silly, although I do belive that the penalty should be smaller, perhaps half of what it would be in higher sec space, and with that applying to 0.3 and below, as although concord wiull hear about the incident when your clone re awakens, they will onmly have your word that the person you accuse was your attacker, so the penalty should be less.
The deep space scanner? Already there, fly to the sun in a system, extend the scanner range with as many 0's as you can and then set it going, will take a while but it will display everything in the system(thanks to StevieW for this tip from eve-i forums).
The battle timer is a moderatly good idea but would require a LOT of work to ensure it had no possible exploits.
You are correct however about your posts, they have the literary competence of a small monkey and are very difficult to read sometimes:P (just banter:P) ----------------------------------------------- Shady trader, fence and gentleman extrordionaire.
Noir Enterprises Site |

PhazerHawk
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Posted - 2003.07.05 14:42:00 -
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Rogue..
I'm gonna laugh when your profession gets nerf!
It's like molly said..You have no idea on what we do or don't do in the game.. One thing for certain they took the fun out of it for many of us.
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Rogue Noir
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Posted - 2003.07.05 14:53:00 -
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Phazer, you have no idea who I am or what I do either, this is my main, he is a trader, a blackmarketeer and my only character(I dont belive in alts). However he is not my first character, not in release nor in beta, and I think i have a pretty good idea of how to go about your sort of buisiness effectivly, I was simply engaging in some harmless banter, wheres the problem with that? You however are making assumptions without cause or information, and I dont belive I hav referred to you once in my above posts, so why are you becoming involved? ----------------------------------------------- Shady trader, fence and gentleman extrordionaire.
Noir Enterprises Site |

Firewing
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Posted - 2003.07.05 15:10:00 -
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I now read lot's of posts from Rogue Noir. Is there a possibility to make them invisible for me here in this forum.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.05 15:53:00 -
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Deep space scanner: You can't warp to pirates e.g. and it isn't showing the players in the system on my results too. So thanks, no. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

StealthNet
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Posted - 2003.07.05 16:08:00 -
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oh wait a minute...
Someone attacks you and you cannot attack back because you will have a sec rating hit ??!?
This is just absurd. Is that what is happening ? _______________________________________________
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.05 16:11:00 -
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If you warp to a different position, or the person docks and redocks or you both jump to the next system you will have to wait to get attacked once more. Then you can reopen fire. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Vala Dae'Tarien
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Posted - 2003.07.05 17:01:00 -
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I'm not unhappy in the least, I am having a great time with this game and have been since beta 5.
And Molly, why haven't you left the boards yet? ----------- Vala Dae'Tarien Shattered Star Sales |

YourOldBuddy
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Posted - 2003.07.05 17:04:00 -
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Im not happy with this game but it is still the best MMORPG out there.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2003.07.05 17:29:00 -
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wanna tell me how great this patch is after you spend all your money and training time to get in a Rupture cruiser:
use mid range projectiles that hold 20 rounds of ammo and tell me how tactical it is after your guns reloader jams after killing every single pirate, and after you loose your cruiser to 2 tristan frigates because while you were trying to reload your guns the frigates got too close to you and you missed every single shot.
than switch to lasers and get blown up by some n00b in a maller just because his ship was built to use lasers and yours wasn't.
experiance this and tell me how great this patch was.
btw none of this happened to me but it was close both times. I think CCP did a good job since this means I will pay my subscription longer, because now I have to train a whole different set of skills... -
"Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive." Mao Tse-tung
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Sister Immacolata
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Posted - 2003.07.05 18:28:00 -
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I just cancelled my subscription. The game is too boring, and there's a few bugs that really can ruin your sense of having fun. Ill check out whats happening in 3-6 months or so. |
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