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Tholarim	Posted - 2005.04.15 09:28:00 - [31] Edited by: Tholarim on 15/04/2005 09:27:42 Originally by: mahhy Originally by: Crohnx they should fix all damn lag issues while shotin station , its really no fun for both sides to fight in this huge lag fest... ctrl-shift-alt-t Thats the 2nd or 3rd time thats been mentioned so far... try it! works like a charm
mahhy	Posted - 2005.04.15 09:32:00 - [32] Originally by: Nepereta exploited.eg reinforcement coming to late to a battle, some dude aligns too late, someone gets bumped by an ally etc. But are those reasons why the Xetic KB is so innacurate? Those aren't exploits, they are mistakes. And generally its mistakes that get you killed. MASS has lost a few ships to actual bugs so far and they're still recorded as losses. We've also lost ships to mistakes and we don't call it an exploit, we just call the pilot an idiot
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2005.04.15 09:33:00 - [33] I'm off to work. In 10 hours I predict this thread will have reached proportions of flaming only ever seen during the Harker Household BBQ + Petrol Incident of 1996. Just call me Mystic Meg. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Rick Dentill	Posted - 2005.04.15 09:35:00 - [34] Originally by: Joshua Calvert I'm off to work. In 10 hours I predict this thread will have reached proportions of flaming only ever seen during the Harker Household BBQ + Petrol Incident of 1996. Just call me Mystic Meg. Hello Meg _______ 'Nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won'. http://x-universe.kiwi.nu/dd.php
Temerlyn	Posted - 2005.04.15 09:37:00 - [35] Putting aside kills/losses logistically its hard to take on any alliance. yes xetic as always looses more ships per capita Xetic has a large industrial base so we can recooperate the losses. The initial war saw alot of enemies take control of regions and station ssytems with impunity. With the war starting additional corps decided to join in as well so we are seeing far more than just CN attacking us. We are the ONLY alliance that hase a pure capturable station quota, everyone else at the very least can retreat to their alliance regions and hide in untouchable stations. Not to mention the massive amount of stations they can hide in. If each alliance didn't have the ability to hide in NPC stations we would of seen some major diferences in each war. basically Xetic is on the backfoot as we have to spend most of our time retaking stations. But as the enemies encroach on us and push us back all they do is make us defend a small area, previously its to little people defending to much space. Despite the bragarts who like to thik their better than everyone else i find the wars quite fun and can maintain an almost indefinate supply of ships to fight with. I hav't done much pvp and i love it, Being a CEO its hard to do pvp and maintain a corp at the same time. At the moment Xetic have most of their stations and we have removed alot of resistance in the impass region of late, no doubt they will come back, no doubt they will take stations when we have no one around, no doubt we'll take em back when they sleep. Until the game mechanics improve we cant do to much.
Nepereta	Posted - 2005.04.15 09:41:00 - [36] Originally by: mahhy Originally by: Nepereta exploited.eg reinforcement coming to late to a battle, some dude aligns too late, someone gets bumped by an ally etc. But are those reasons why the Xetic KB is so innacurate? Those aren't exploits, they are mistakes. And generally its mistakes that get you killed. MASS has lost a few ships to actual bugs so far and they're still recorded as losses. We've also lost ships to mistakes and we don't call it an exploit, we just call the pilot an idiot I mean mistkaes not bugs but the sort of mistakes which are kinda in between. Anyone gang warp into a spot when try to align to the next escape point you bounce off another (friendly) bs and they bounce off you. Grr I lost a ggedon to that one.
Lord Draco	Posted - 2005.04.15 10:07:00 - [37] Originally by: Temerlyn We are the ONLY alliance that hase a pure capturable station quota, everyone else at the very least can retreat to their alliance regions and hide in untouchable stations. What about FIX?
Admiral Pieg	Posted - 2005.04.15 10:11:00 - [38] uh, didnt they fix the 0.1 fps lag around stations in this patch? ______________________ Pod from above.
Seleene	Posted - 2005.04.15 10:14:00 - [39] Originally by: Tholarim The xetic killboard is a joke. Pretty much says it all. - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
Guderian	Posted - 2005.04.15 10:15:00 - [40] Edited by: Guderian on 15/04/2005 10:15:11 Originally by: Death Blow Just curious how is the war in xetic space going? I noticed they hold most 99% of there stations...When the war first started atuk and friends talked like they would walk all over them and it seems xetic are holding there ownI guess all the talk on these forums about xetic not being able to pvp is wrong or am i missing something here?????? Give me a way to meassure how a war is going, and I'll tell you how Shinra is doing in this war. If you meassure it from flame threads on the forums, then there hasn't recently been any way to tell the current status, cause of lack of flames or flame bait (until you came along). Remember that if a tree falls in the woods, it still makes a sound even if there is noone around to hear it. The same goes for the war, it is still own, ships are blown up even if smacking isn't taking place on the forums. If you meassure the war in kill:death ratio's, then look at Shinra and friends kill boards and at Xetics kill board and do a comparison. Dont use the death lists on each board, only the kill lists, because that will be the most accurate list of the two. If you meassure it in station holding, then I guess XETIC is probably holding their own, but that doesn't imply they can pvp nor does it imply that they cant. It's just a meassure of who wants/needs the stations the most. And considering the the pre-patch station taking, its no fun for a force to spend x hours in a lag hell just to take a station that will be taken back as soon as they log off. "Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond."

Br0dY	Posted - 2005.04.15 10:17:00 - [41] Originally by: Temerlyn We are the ONLY alliance that hase a pure capturable station quota, everyone else at the very least can retreat to their alliance regions and hide in untouchable stations. Not to mention the massive amount of stations they can hide in. If each alliance didn't have the ability to hide in NPC stations we would of seen some major diferences in each war. basically Xetic is on the backfoot as we have to spend most of our time retaking stations. ... Until the game mechanics improve we cant do to much. Dude... quit your goddamn whining!It's the main reason I dislike u Xetic halfwits so much. U whine about a spot in space which u claim for your alliance home, how it has no factories and no research and agetns and bla bla bla... how u have a lot harder time defending... bla bla bla... and how fkin unfair that is to u! Ok newsflash for the xetic halfwits: U HALFWITS DECIDED TO LIVE THERE!!!!!!!! The space was made as it is and u wanted it anyway so if u don't like the way things are there GET LOST!. I'm so sick and tired of the way u keep whining about these things it ain't even funny. U wanted to be there u are there and the space is the way it is. I see no reason why it should be changed in any way at all, just because of your childish whining and dining. U don't like the way things are there, get the fk out, simple as that. ------------------------------------------------ Better to ask something stupid, then to do something stupid
Admiral Pieg	Posted - 2005.04.15 10:39:00 - [42] Edited by: Admiral Pieg on 15/04/2005 10:39:33 Originally by: Br0dY Originally by: Temerlyn We are the ONLY alliance that hase a pure capturable station quota, everyone else at the very least can retreat to their alliance regions and hide in untouchable stations. Not to mention the massive amount of stations they can hide in. If each alliance didn't have the ability to hide in NPC stations we would of seen some major diferences in each war. basically Xetic is on the backfoot as we have to spend most of our time retaking stations. ... Until the game mechanics improve we cant do to much. Dude... quit your goddamn whining!It's the main reason I dislike u Xetic halfwits so much. U whine about a spot in space which u claim for your alliance home, how it has no factories and no research and agetns and bla bla bla... how u have a lot harder time defending... bla bla bla... and how fkin unfair that is to u! Ok newsflash for the xetic halfwits: U HALFWITS DECIDED TO LIVE THERE!!!!!!!! The space was made as it is and u wanted it anyway so if u don't like the way things are there GET LOST!. I'm so sick and tired of the way u keep whining about these things it ain't even funny. U wanted to be there u are there and the space is the way it is. I see no reason why it should be changed in any way at all, just because of your childish whining and dining. U don't like the way things are there, get the fk out, simple as that. Not the sharpest knife in the kitchen are we? He was merely stating facts mate, calm down a notch. ______________________ Pod from above.
Mindlles	Posted - 2005.04.15 10:54:00 - [43] Originally by: thebold 1) Xif kill board's arnt recording loss's 2) mass & co is doing well down south but then again we arnt really fighting pvp'ers but they try hard to stop us. I thought Celestial Horzion was a pvp corp? Don't really know much else i just wana mine ark instead god dammit. and mass are a pvp corp then? lol
Nepereta	Posted - 2005.04.15 12:18:00 - [44] Edited by: Nepereta on 15/04/2005 12:24:21 I love your Footer Pieg I like XF. It would be nice to have a factory -refinery combo though.
Br0dY	Posted - 2005.04.15 12:19:00 - [45] Edited by: Br0dY on 15/04/2005 12:19:07 Originally by: Admiral Pieg Edited by: Admiral Pieg on 15/04/2005 10:39:33 Originally by: Br0dY Originally by: Temerlyn We are the ONLY alliance that hase a pure capturable station quota, everyone else at the very least can retreat to their alliance regions and hide in untouchable stations. Not to mention the massive amount of stations they can hide in. If each alliance didn't have the ability to hide in NPC stations we would of seen some major diferences in each war. basically Xetic is on the backfoot as we have to spend most of our time retaking stations. ... Until the game mechanics improve we cant do to much. Dude... quit your goddamn whining!It's the main reason I dislike u Xetic halfwits so much. U whine about a spot in space which u claim for your alliance home, how it has no factories and no research and agetns and bla bla bla... how u have a lot harder time defending... bla bla bla... and how fkin unfair that is to u! Ok newsflash for the xetic halfwits: U HALFWITS DECIDED TO LIVE THERE!!!!!!!! The space was made as it is and u wanted it anyway so if u don't like the way things are there GET LOST!. I'm so sick and tired of the way u keep whining about these things it ain't even funny. U wanted to be there u are there and the space is the way it is. I see no reason why it should be changed in any way at all, just because of your childish whining and dining. U don't like the way things are there, get the fk out, simple as that. Not the sharpest knife in the kitchen are we? He was merely stating facts mate, calm down a notch. Listen to me mr. knife... U XF lot have been trying to pin the poor defense of your space to exactly these things since the first CA - XF war I fought in. We both know the stations wouldn't do u much good either way, cause of your incompetence level, which is thru the roof, I think had u have titans available XF would still end up in flames. Get back to your log off tactics or roll over and die. NPC stations or not, u lot are losing the war if u like it or not ;) When the war ends and the loses are accounted for (I suggest u avoid XF kill boards as ppl scam kills and avoid posting their loses) I think we will all see the true picture of it all. The rest will follow in it's wake. Till then, quit your halfwit whining and moaning, pick up your ships, kit them with the most expensive mods u got and let's rumble! ------------------------------------------------ Better to ask something stupid, then to do something stupid
Astruma	Posted - 2005.04.15 12:24:00 - [46] Originally by: Br0dY Edited by: Br0dY on 15/04/2005 12:19:07 Originally by: Admiral Pieg Edited by: Admiral Pieg on 15/04/2005 10:39:33 Originally by: Br0dY Originally by: Temerlyn We are the ONLY alliance that hase a pure capturable station quota, everyone else at the very least can retreat to their alliance regions and hide in untouchable stations. Not to mention the massive amount of stations they can hide in. If each alliance didn't have the ability to hide in NPC stations we would of seen some major diferences in each war. basically Xetic is on the backfoot as we have to spend most of our time retaking stations. ... Until the game mechanics improve we cant do to much. Dude... quit your goddamn whining!It's the main reason I dislike u Xetic halfwits so much. U whine about a spot in space which u claim for your alliance home, how it has no factories and no research and agetns and bla bla bla... how u have a lot harder time defending... bla bla bla... and how fkin unfair that is to u! Ok newsflash for the xetic halfwits: U HALFWITS DECIDED TO LIVE THERE!!!!!!!! The space was made as it is and u wanted it anyway so if u don't like the way things are there GET LOST!. I'm so sick and tired of the way u keep whining about these things it ain't even funny. U wanted to be there u are there and the space is the way it is. I see no reason why it should be changed in any way at all, just because of your childish whining and dining. U don't like the way things are there, get the fk out, simple as that. Not the sharpest knife in the kitchen are we? He was merely stating facts mate, calm down a notch. Listen to me mr. knife... U XF lot have been trying to pin the poor defense of your space to exactly these things since the first CA - XF war I fought in. We both know the stations wouldn't do u much good either way, cause of your incompetence level, which is thru the roof, I think had u have titans available XF would still end up in flames. Get back to your log off tactics or roll over and die. NPC stations or not, u lot are losing the war if u like it or not ;) When the war ends and the loses are accounted for (I suggest u avoid XF kill boards as ppl scam kills and avoid posting their loses) I think we will all see the true picture of it all. The rest will follow in it's wake. Till then, quit your halfwit whining and moaning, pick up your ships, kit them with the most expensive mods u got and let's rumble! ATUK - Arrogant ****s UK
Nepereta	Posted - 2005.04.15 12:31:00 - [47] Originally by: Tholarim Edited by: Tholarim on 15/04/2005 09:01:39 The xetic killboard is a joke. Riddari posted our losses and kills in another post in which i didn't want to continue the argument. Thing about the xetic killboard is. They hardly ever post their losses, making their killboard extremely inacurate. Yes atuk post losses and we also miss one once in a while (the pilot then get's sent to a private room with kayo for an hour and it's solved). But not to the extent in which xetic neglect to post losses. For example, we had a nice day of fighting last week in 68ft-6 in impass. I pick that day cus it makes things very clear straight away. Now if u check this link for that day: ATUK kills 6 april and compare that with the xetic loss board for 6 april: Xetic killboard, atuk overview Now how well is the war going for xetic one might begin to ask himself..... Xetic Killboard: hardly any of us post our kills either. Each kill that gets posted receives a XF bounty payment.I am not gonna deprive XF of petty Misk here and there when I simply don't need handouts anymore.
Riddari	Posted - 2005.04.15 12:31:00 - [48] Xetic people, let's just ignore the people who are here frothing at the mouth because not long after XETIC was supposed to have died in the first day of an assault by the Cursed Nation, who were soon joined by half of former SE's corporations and a miriad of hangers on, XETIC still controls most of it's stations and is retaking those that it doesn't, nearly every day. Just allow them to scream bloody murder and say we never fight them, even if facts state otherwise. Who gives a damn what they say anyways? ¼©¼ a history
Tholarim	Posted - 2005.04.15 12:38:00 - [49] Originally by: Riddari Xetic people, let's just ignore the people who are here frothing at the mouth because not long after XETIC was supposed to have died in the first day of an assault by the Cursed Nation, who were soon joined by half of former SE's corporations and a miriad of hangers on, XETIC still controls most of it's stations and is retaking those that it doesn't, nearly every day. Just allow them to scream bloody murder and say we never fight them, even if facts state otherwise. Who gives a damn what they say anyways? hey you started about the whole killboard. Even in our video topic. Yeah some xetic fight, some don't. Where are you anyways?
Nepereta	Posted - 2005.04.15 12:44:00 - [50] stuck at work Will be on at some point this weekend I hope. maybe see you in 0.0 someplace. Hear you guys did some mining ops in detorid already. Whats wrong the war kitty not keeping up with your urge to anhilate?

insuperable	Posted - 2005.04.15 12:48:00 - [51] The killboard is fairly new, pilots are still getting used to it and still registering. Alot of industrialists in the alliance arent interested in a killboard, especially just after they lost a ship. So you will get few of those posting. Most of the losses posted on there will be the pvpers in the alliance as they use it to post kills etc. As for the war, XF is losing and will lose more ships than the enemy. But it wont be the pvpers that get hit hard, it will be the industrialists. When the war first broke out we lost 3-4 stations, and afaik we have them all back under our control. Stations will change hands alot over the next few weeks or months. Our enemies thrive on war, its what they like and its what they do best. Imo this will be a long war with heavy losses on both sides, but nobody can predict what will happen and what the outcome will be. Interesting... Gallery
Riddari	Posted - 2005.04.15 12:49:00 - [52] Originally by: Tholarim hey you started about the whole killboard. As a way of correcting the factual misunderstanding that XETIC doesn't fight yes. Pure number crunching is always a disaster. Originally by: Tholarim Where are you anyways? TRIGGER didn't want to play. I'm around, not every day but I'm around... ¼©¼ a history
Br0dY	Posted - 2005.04.15 12:57:00 - [53] Originally by: Riddari Xetic people, let's just ignore the people who are here frothing at the mouth because not long after XETIC was supposed to have died in the first day of an assault by the Cursed Nation, who were soon joined by half of former SE's corporations and a miriad of hangers on, XETIC still controls most of it's stations and is retaking those that it doesn't, nearly every day. Just allow them to scream bloody murder and say we never fight them, even if facts state otherwise. Who gives a damn what they say anyways? I see scared Xetic ppl.... ------------------------------------------------ Better to ask something stupid, then to do something stupid
Astruma	Posted - 2005.04.15 13:03:00 - [54] Originally by: Br0dY Originally by: Riddari Xetic people, let's just ignore the people who are here frothing at the mouth because not long after XETIC was supposed to have died in the first day of an assault by the Cursed Nation, who were soon joined by half of former SE's corporations and a miriad of hangers on, XETIC still controls most of it's stations and is retaking those that it doesn't, nearly every day. Just allow them to scream bloody murder and say we never fight them, even if facts state otherwise. Who gives a damn what they say anyways? I see scared Xetic ppl.... Get a life idiot
Br0dY	Posted - 2005.04.15 13:15:00 - [55] Originally by: Astruma Originally by: Br0dY Originally by: Riddari Xetic people, let's just ignore the people who are here frothing at the mouth because not long after XETIC was supposed to have died in the first day of an assault by the Cursed Nation, who were soon joined by half of former SE's corporations and a miriad of hangers on, XETIC still controls most of it's stations and is retaking those that it doesn't, nearly every day. Just allow them to scream bloody murder and say we never fight them, even if facts state otherwise. Who gives a damn what they say anyways? I see scared Xetic ppl.... Get a life idiot I see more scared Xetic ppl... ------------------------------------------------ Better to ask something stupid, then to do something stupid
Omatje	Posted - 2005.04.15 13:15:00 - [56] Edited by: Omatje on 15/04/2005 13:25:16 Originally by: Br0dY I see scared Xetic ppl.... Sixth Sense anyone? Why dont we all f1f2f3 eachother?
Riddari	Posted - 2005.04.15 13:21:00 - [57] Originally by: Omatje Originally by: Br0dY I see scared Xetic ppl.... Sixth Sense anyone? He could use the other five first ¼©¼ a history
Astruma	Posted - 2005.04.15 13:33:00 - [58] Originally by: Br0dY Originally by: Astruma Originally by: Br0dY Originally by: Riddari Xetic people, let's just ignore the people who are here frothing at the mouth because not long after XETIC was supposed to have died in the first day of an assault by the Cursed Nation, who were soon joined by half of former SE's corporations and a miriad of hangers on, XETIC still controls most of it's stations and is retaking those that it doesn't, nearly every day. Just allow them to scream bloody murder and say we never fight them, even if facts state otherwise. Who gives a damn what they say anyways? I see scared Xetic ppl.... Get a life idiot I see more scared Xetic ppl... I see a forum moron called Brody and you don't need no frigging sixth sense to see it.
Conram	Posted - 2005.04.15 13:39:00 - [59] Originally by: Weeman Due to the lag you cant actually take a station at the moment...at least not without putting yourself at huge risk and being prepared to sit there for a week Of course ... it's the lag's fault ..... (Sorry for smacktalk, couldn't resist on that one ...) Conram * Proud member of the X-Trading Company and Ex-President of the XETIC Federation * Cordy: "but are we sure we wanna touch our carebear image with all this killing? :p
Br0dY	Posted - 2005.04.15 13:52:00 - [60] Originally by: Astruma Originally by: Br0dY Originally by: Astruma Originally by: Br0dY Originally by: Riddari Xetic people, let's just ignore the people who are here frothing at the mouth because not long after XETIC was supposed to have died in the first day of an assault by the Cursed Nation, who were soon joined by half of former SE's corporations and a miriad of hangers on, XETIC still controls most of it's stations and is retaking those that it doesn't, nearly every day. Just allow them to scream bloody murder and say we never fight them, even if facts state otherwise. Who gives a damn what they say anyways? I see scared Xetic ppl.... Get a life idiot I see more scared Xetic ppl... I see a forum moron called Brody and you don't need no frigging sixth sense to see it. Oh I see u must've experienced my excellent ship removal services... no other reason y u are so upset... ------------------------------------------------ Better to ask something stupid, then to do something stupid



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