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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
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Posted - 2012.11.12 20:15:00 -
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So yeah, apparently there will now be a ME4, with development headed by BioWare Montreal as opposed to Edmonton who are responsible for ME3. And it's using the sexy Frostbite engine.
I'm reserving judgment until i know more about the plot. This will either be the 3rd strike for Bioware, or their return to glory. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.11.12 20:41:00 -
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Did anyone seriously think they were going to let their most profitable franchise just die out? |

Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
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Posted - 2012.11.12 20:50:00 -
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I thought shortly after ME3, they said that they were making ME4? At the very least, I know it's existence has been common knowledge for a few months now.
In any case, I probably won't buy it. I'm obviously saying this without obviously having seen literally anything about the game, but I didn't care for ME3, didn't care for DA2, and didn't care for SWTOR so I'm not exactly pleased with Bioware at the moment. On top of that, I'd most likely get it on PC and I just don't want anything to do with Origin. It's not the typical blind EA hate or anything like that. I'm just done with having to deal with a million different services for a million different products. I want less stuff cluttering up my life. Not more. I know it would take me 2 minutes at most to sign up for Origin, but I. just. don't. want. to.
That's just me though.
Unless, this game is literally the best thing ever, I can't imagine picking it up. |

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
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Posted - 2012.11.12 20:51:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Did anyone seriously think they were going to let their most profitable franchise just die out?
The ending of ME3 does make a little more sense when you realize they never intended to finish it there. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |

Bolow Santosi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.12 21:51:00 -
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They should turn it into a Wing Commander Privateer style game set in the Mass Effect Universe. I'd play the hell out of that. |

Theron Urian
The Moirae Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:08:00 -
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Baby ChuChu wrote:I thought shortly after ME3, they said that they were making ME4? At the very least, I know it's existence has been common knowledge for a few months now.
In any case, I probably won't buy it. I'm obviously saying this without obviously having seen literally anything about the game, but I didn't care for ME3, didn't care for DA2, and didn't care for SWTOR so I'm not exactly pleased with Bioware at the moment. On top of that, I'd most likely get it on PC and I just don't want anything to do with Origin. It's not the typical blind EA hate or anything like that. I'm just done with having to deal with a million different services for a million different products. I want less stuff cluttering up my life. Not more. I know it would take me 2 minutes at most to sign up for Origin, but I. just. don't. want. to.
That's just me though.
Unless, this game is literally the best thing ever, I can't imagine picking it up.
Wow you literally just said almost everything I was thinking.
I don't remember where but I also read that EA is pushing for all future games to have multi player components, like the slapped on multi player mode of ME3. Why do we need these slapped on half ass modes added to story driven single player rpgs?
Bioware has fallen from grace, and EA are the next evil overlords of gaming. |

stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.11.12 22:56:00 -
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Cash Effect 4? Wait, there was a 3?
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head. Feature Request: -áDamnation Ship Codpiece-áfor the NeX store.
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.11.12 23:08:00 -
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Trilogy is a fake word when it comes to a profitable series. |

Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.11.12 23:21:00 -
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This franchise, like Dragon Age, is dead to me. FIRE FRIENDSHIP TORPEDOES ! Louis's epic skill guide v1.1 |

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2012.11.13 00:50:00 -
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I thought they were just gonna make a compilation of the entire ME series + DLC into 1 package? wumbo |

Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
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Posted - 2012.11.13 00:57:00 -
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Eli Green wrote:I thought they were just gonna make a compilation of the entire ME series + DLC into 1 package?
Nope.
Not only does this make absolutely zero sense, the WiiU will only be getting regular ME3 at full price.
I don't even plan on buying a WiiU, but that seems like a crumby deal either way. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2012.11.13 01:25:00 -
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I knew about this weeks ago but didn't say anything  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Kenshi Hanshin
BloodLust Enterprises Apocalypse Now.
11
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Posted - 2012.11.13 02:42:00 -
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Baby ChuChu wrote:I thought shortly after ME3, they said that they were making ME4? At the very least, I know it's existence has been common knowledge for a few months now.
In any case, I probably won't buy it. I'm obviously saying this without obviously having seen literally anything about the game, but I didn't care for ME3, didn't care for DA2, and didn't care for SWTOR so I'm not exactly pleased with Bioware at the moment. On top of that, I'd most likely get it on PC and I just don't want anything to do with Origin. It's not the typical blind EA hate or anything like that. I'm just done with having to deal with a million different services for a million different products. I want less stuff cluttering up my life. Not more. I know it would take me 2 minutes at most to sign up for Origin, but I. just. don't. want. to.
That's just me though.
Unless, this game is literally the best thing ever, I can't imagine picking it up. I agree with you there! ME2 was well done and enjoyable. ME3 was a major letdown. Why would I risk my money (which I work my ass-off for) on the chance of feeling butt-raped again?! I wouldn't! So no, if anyone at EA reads this: I am not buying anymore of your games.
I would rather pay $15/month on EVE which gives me free expansions and got a dedicated community of adults. I don't like having to tolerate those annoying obnoxious 14 yr olds that swarm over BF3, ME3 etc. Also, I don't like having to pay $15-25 USD per expansion either, EA. When all your doing is revamping a map from some previous version of the game.
As an aside, this is the same reason I hate the prospects of having those damn 14 yr old kids in EVE, via DUST-514. I came here to get away from those fing brats. No offense intended, to anyone with kids. |

Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.11.13 02:46:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I knew about this weeks ago but didn't say anything  They need a horn rimmed glasses emote. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:11:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I knew about this weeks ago but didn't say anything  They need a horn rimmed glasses emote.
They got regular horns but they didn't fit for me trying to point out how cool I am  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
246
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Posted - 2012.11.13 03:22:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Baby ChuChu wrote:I thought shortly after ME3, they said that they were making ME4? They mentioned that they'd like to do more with the ME universe, but never said anything definite. In that same interview they also said something about how cool it would be if people could live in the ME universe after the Shepard era in a multiplayer environment, so they could be setting up a ME MMO. Maybe 4 is the bridge between single player and MMO. edit: Here's the interview i was referencing.
Ah, I see. Cool, thanks for the info! |

Samoth Egnoled
The Condemned and Convicted
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Posted - 2012.11.13 06:29:00 -
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To be honest, from the end of ME3 i was almost certain they would bring out a forth. When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. ThatGÇÖs relativity.
- Albert Einstein |

Zindela
Aegeonix Systems
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Posted - 2012.11.13 08:26:00 -
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I'd heard that they were going to expand the universe, but no matter what, you're not going to be able to play as Shepard, cause, well, ME3.
I'll reserve judgement for now, but I'd probably get it. Unless it's an MMO and goes the way of SW:TOR. I was pretty excited for that game... up until I watched a friend play for about 5 minutes. |

Samoth Egnoled
The Condemned and Convicted
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Posted - 2012.11.13 08:34:00 -
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Zindela wrote:I'd heard that they were going to expand the universe, but no matter what, you're not going to be able to play as Shepard, cause, well, ME3.
I'll reserve judgement for now, but I'd probably get it. Unless it's an MMO and goes the way of SW:TOR. I was pretty excited for that game... up until I watched a friend play for about 5 minutes.
I would have liked to have seen SWTOR as an RPG rather than MMO, KOTOR was such a brilliant game. its just a real shame to see what Bioware have done to it.
On the ME topic. i think it was a Monumentally stupid idea to kill shepherd....Again. though i have no doubt their next game will be a hit. When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. ThatGÇÖs relativity.
- Albert Einstein |

AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.11.13 11:15:00 -
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Played Mass Effect, got bored after an hour of getting lost and talking to one-dimensional cartoon characters - haven't gone back since.
But yeah, they gotta keep that cash cow milking - second it ceases to be profitable is when they will stop.
Tomb Raider came out in '96...John Madden Football in '88...and I'll bet hard cash these mother fuckin' games will have 'sequels' 20 years from now.
 GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |

oniplE
MeMento.
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Posted - 2012.11.13 11:46:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote: I'm reserving judgment until i know more about the plot. This will either be the 3rd strike for Bioware, or their return to glory.
I'm not too worried about the plot, because it can't get any worse than the ME3 plot.
What i'm worried about is lack of immersion and depth. The world of ME1 felt alive. Although the elevator rides or getting to the other side of the Citadel took forever, it created the feeling of a living and open environment. The world of ME2 / ME3 was just a bunch of game levels with cut scenes in between. ME2 was an alright game though, ME3 was garbage.
I'm hoping for an ME1 styled BioWare RPG, but I'm afraid it's going to be another 'Generic EA Shooter'. |

mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.11.13 12:15:00 -
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oniplE wrote:Bane Necran wrote: I'm reserving judgment until i know more about the plot. This will either be the 3rd strike for Bioware, or their return to glory.
I'm not too worried about the plot, because it can't get any worse than the ME3 plot. What i'm worried about is lack of immersion and depth. The world of ME1 felt alive. Although the elevator rides or getting to the other side of the Citadel took forever, it created the feeling of a living and open environment. The world of ME2 / ME3 was just a bunch of game levels with cut scenes in between. ME2 was an alright game though, ME3 was garbage. I'm hoping for an ME1 styled BioWare RPG, but I'm afraid it's going to be another 'Generic EA Shooter'.
ME3 was just ME2 on steroids. To call the third garbage while calling the second "ok" is really just viewing things through rose tinted nostalgia goggles.
I liked the first one the most by far because it felt bigger like you said. The second was a change in storytelling and focused more on the cinematic look, a look the third game simply copied.
The problem with the third game was really just that the pacing was too fast for the scale of the conflict it tried to portray. It got the atmosphere right, the gameplay was better than the second one and the story did not feel as hamfisted as the second game atleast untill the ending. Bioware wrote themselves into a corner right from the start imo and it affected the quality of the games negatively. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |

oniplE
MeMento.
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Posted - 2012.11.13 13:08:00 -
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mama guru wrote:oniplE wrote:Bane Necran wrote: I'm reserving judgment until i know more about the plot. This will either be the 3rd strike for Bioware, or their return to glory.
I'm not too worried about the plot, because it can't get any worse than the ME3 plot. What i'm worried about is lack of immersion and depth. The world of ME1 felt alive. Although the elevator rides or getting to the other side of the Citadel took forever, it created the feeling of a living and open environment. The world of ME2 / ME3 was just a bunch of game levels with cut scenes in between. ME2 was an alright game though, ME3 was garbage. I'm hoping for an ME1 styled BioWare RPG, but I'm afraid it's going to be another 'Generic EA Shooter'. ME3 was just ME2 on steroids. To call the third garbage while calling the second "ok" is really just viewing things through rose tinted nostalgia goggles. I liked the first one the most by far because it felt bigger like you said. The second was a change in storytelling and focused more on the cinematic look, a look the third game simply copied. The problem with the third game was really just that the pacing was too fast for the scale of the conflict it tried to portray. It got the atmosphere right, the gameplay was better than the second one and the story did not feel as hamfisted as the second game atleast untill the ending. Bioware wrote themselves into a corner right from the start imo and it affected the quality of the games negatively. I agree ME3 is very much the same as ME2 and in some parts it was a better game. The game mechanics of ME3 are probably the best of all ME's.
Why I think ME3 is garbage is because of the ending. Maybe it isn't fair to judge a game on it's last 10 minutes, but for me it ruined the entire game and to some extent the entire series. Of course that's a matter of opinion, some people consider the ending to be brilliantly clever and artistic, I consider it to be a product of bad writing and even worse execution. For me, up to the last 10 minutes ME3 is a better game than ME2, but once you step into that 'beam' things go downhill real fast. |

Frank Millar
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Posted - 2012.11.13 14:05:00 -
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ME3's writing was bad from front to back and in the last 10 minutes it got even worse.
I am not going to bother with ME4. |

Sin Pew
Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel
144
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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:48:00 -
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mama guru wrote:oniplE wrote:Bane Necran wrote: I'm reserving judgment until i know more about the plot. This will either be the 3rd strike for Bioware, or their return to glory.
I'm not too worried about the plot, because it can't get any worse than the ME3 plot. What i'm worried about is lack of immersion and depth. The world of ME1 felt alive. Although the elevator rides or getting to the other side of the Citadel took forever, it created the feeling of a living and open environment. The world of ME2 / ME3 was just a bunch of game levels with cut scenes in between. ME2 was an alright game though, ME3 was garbage. I'm hoping for an ME1 styled BioWare RPG, but I'm afraid it's going to be another 'Generic EA Shooter'. ME3 was just ME2 on steroids. To call the third garbage while calling the second "ok" is really just viewing things through rose tinted nostalgia goggles. I liked the first one the most by far because it felt bigger like you said. The second was a change in storytelling and focused more on the cinematic look, a look the third game simply copied. The problem with the third game was really just that the pacing was too fast for the scale of the conflict it tried to portray. It got the atmosphere right, the gameplay was better than the second one and the story did not feel as hamfisted as the second game atleast untill the ending. Bioware wrote themselves into a corner right from the start imo and it affected the quality of the games negatively. I second that, the third was good gameplay-wise IMO, just the pace was tedious and the ending had a taste of "Screw that, we ain't got time to finish the ****". I loved DAO and played it over and over in a compulsive manner just to try all the possible combinations and outcomes, but after 2 tries at DA2, the copy/pasted dungeons and sky-NPCs pissed me off, so while I appreciated to change of gameplay, I gave up on that franchise too. I had all DLC for ME1/ME2/DAO, but after that, the EA taste was too strong for me. "haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator." |

Reiisha
Evolution The Retirement Club
146
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Posted - 2012.11.14 15:50:00 -
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Called it in March >_> |

Reiisha
Evolution The Retirement Club
146
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Posted - 2012.11.14 15:54:00 -
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mama guru wrote:oniplE wrote:Bane Necran wrote: I'm reserving judgment until i know more about the plot. This will either be the 3rd strike for Bioware, or their return to glory.
I'm not too worried about the plot, because it can't get any worse than the ME3 plot. What i'm worried about is lack of immersion and depth. The world of ME1 felt alive. Although the elevator rides or getting to the other side of the Citadel took forever, it created the feeling of a living and open environment. The world of ME2 / ME3 was just a bunch of game levels with cut scenes in between. ME2 was an alright game though, ME3 was garbage. I'm hoping for an ME1 styled BioWare RPG, but I'm afraid it's going to be another 'Generic EA Shooter'. ME3 was just ME2 on steroids. To call the third garbage while calling the second "ok" is really just viewing things through rose tinted nostalgia goggles. I liked the first one the most by far because it felt bigger like you said. The second was a change in storytelling and focused more on the cinematic look, a look the third game simply copied. The problem with the third game was really just that the pacing was too fast for the scale of the conflict it tried to portray. It got the atmosphere right, the gameplay was better than the second one and the story did not feel as hamfisted as the second game atleast untill the ending. Bioware wrote themselves into a corner right from the start imo and it affected the quality of the games negatively.
Worst thing about ME2 and ME3 is that all your choices don't matter at all.
The paramount mistake bioware made when making ME2 and ME3 is trying to make sure all players see all content. They were so afraid that 'some' players may not see 'some' content due to different choices being made that they basically brought down all 'major' choices to some differences in dialogue and a single number on the reinforcement screen, but nothing else.
I also get the feeling that instead of making all the choices modular, they used a single script for all possible outcomes, which is one of the reasons for the amount of bugs. |

Qaidan Alenko
State War Academy Caldari State
640
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Posted - 2012.11.14 16:33:00 -
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As long as I can continue to persue my love intrest, I'll but it.
Oh... wait... Go ahead,,,, Get your Wham on!!!
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Dessau
78
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Posted - 2012.11.14 17:21:00 -
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Louis deGuerre wrote:This franchise, like Dragon Age, is dead to me. Seconded.
Solo is one player, one pilot. |

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2012.11.14 19:17:00 -
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guess all i have to say now is inb4 new ME trilogy wumbo |
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