Just train enough to fly them now and you will be able to fly them after change will be released. Whenever it will be.

We'll do the destroyer and battlecruiser skills in one batch, after the BC and BS rebalance is done.

Want to make this clear to everyone, the stuff in this blog is not coming on the 4th with Retribution. This blog covers some of what we are going to be working on in the beginning of next year.

I'll come right out and say the skill changes will not come on December 4th with Retribution but that you should still seriously consider taking them into account when you pick your next skills.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2145814#post2145814 [best example]

So what if I had just cruiser lvl 1 instead of 3 but BC to lvl 5?

BTW Thanks for that post, awesome.

Whether it's 132 days or "just" 94 days, I said it before and I'll say it again - this change is ONE HECK of a kick to the tender region for new players.

Seriously, just imagine you are someone who bought EVE a week before the change goes live. There's no way in holy hell you will gain anything from it. And people who already were far ahead of you get a 90+ day "free" boost in training. How's that feel? So, now you'll be forced into 3+ months of additional training just to catch up to where they were before the change, SP-wise.

Personally the change no longer affects me, as I have all races trained already and both Destroyers and BCs to V, but I still feel it is a really, really bad idea. More to the point, it's not really necessary. By necessary I mean NECESSARY. Yes, logical progression is somewhat out of whack with the current skills. But guess what? Logical progression is somewhat out of whack in general with this game, so what else is new?

Will this change improve quality of gameplay? Will it somehow make the game fun, or just better? I just don't see it. It's one of those things that they decided to do, pretty much for the sake of neatness, and to heck with what it'll do to new(ish) players.

Whether it's 132 days or "just" 94 days, I said it before and I'll say it again - this change is ONE HECK of a kick to the tender region for new players.

So, now you'll be forced into 3+ months of additional training just to catch up to where they were before the change, SP-wise.

Did this really need another thread? Is the search function broken? CCP, please investigate the 'Search Forums' function for proper operation.

All the people who never had any intention of getting destroyers or bc V suddenly training them for "free SP" because more SP means you level up!!

I myself know for a fact that I'm going to want BC V someday. I don't know if I'll every fly command ships, but BC V in itself is extremely useful for the T1 hulls.

As announced at the beginning of the year, skill requirements will be modified when we are done overhauling tech1 battlecruisers and battleships. This consists of:

Breaking Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills into four racial versions with an identical training multiplier (thus making it four times harder to get all races trained)
Changing skill requirements for Racial Cruisers from Racial Frigates 4 to Racial Destroyers 4
Changing skill requirements for Racial Battleships from Racial Cruisers 4 to Racial Battlecruisers 4
Changing skill requirements for capital ships from Racial Battleships 5 to 4, but introducing or increasing other skills to keep the same overall training time requirements

I think the general feeling is that they feel they may one day want BC V or destroyers V, so they're getting that out of the way while it's easier to do so now. So not really so much to do with that magical number that doesn't actually mean anything apart from how expensive your clones are.

I myself know for a fact that I'm going to want BC V someday. I don't know if I'll every fly command ships, but BC V in itself is extremely useful for the T1 hulls.

My bet is on the battlecruiser multiplier lowering so you won't get as many "free" skill points as you think when the changes occur...

Why are they changing it anyway, i don't see the point of it , not after all these years
I see the logic behind it but not the reason of changing it afterso many years

So... horses were used for transport for thousands of years, why did we changed to cars/trains/ships/airplanes?

Whether it's 132 days or "just" 94 days, I said it before and I'll say it again - this change is ONE HECK of a kick to the tender region for new players.

Seriously, just imagine you are someone who bought EVE a week before the change goes live. There's no way in holy hell you will gain anything from it. And people who already were far ahead of you get a 90+ day "free" boost in training. How's that feel? So, now you'll be forced into 3+ months of additional training just to catch up to where they were before the change, SP-wise.

Personally the change no longer affects me, as I have all races trained already and both Destroyers and BCs to V, but I still feel it is a really, really bad idea. More to the point, it's not really necessary. By necessary I mean NECESSARY. Yes, logical progression is somewhat out of whack with the current skills. But guess what? Logical progression is somewhat out of whack in general with this game, so what else is new?

Will this change improve quality of gameplay? Will it somehow make the game fun, or just better? I just don't see it. It's one of those things that they decided to do, pretty much for the sake of neatness, and to heck with what it'll do to new(ish) players.

Why are they changing it anyway

system worked well before why change it now

Of course a lot of folks are assuming that "Amarr Battlecruisers" will be a rank 6 skill like it is currently.

I have Destroyers lvl 5 and all of the racial frigates lvl 5. I also have Battlecruiser lvl 5 aswell as all the racial cruisers to lvl 5... so how many sps will I get?