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David Devant CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 30	Posted - 2012.11.17 11:02:00 - [1] - Quote With the coming of Retribution we will be getting some lovely new toys. Everybody is excited about the new pocket fleets. A brave new world where no ship is left behind and skill matters more than skill points. No one should be more excited than we servants of empire. Faction warfare is surely what these changes were meant for. Where in null sec people will still say 'lol augoror' and blap your ass lickety spilt, in faction warfare we have the opportunity for a more beautiful game. Well formed gangs will be protected from hideous overships and strategic play will rule the day. But this will only happen if we fight for territory; if we fight for plexes. I have a dream! But it's not coming true. Please, please, please make it happen people. And if you don't think it will, say why not, and say what needs to change. Thx.
David Devant CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 30	Posted - 2012.11.17 11:11:00 - [2] - Quote WonkySplitDemon wrote: Erm, we flipped oyeman this morning :) Did you get a fight doing it? That's the problem.
David Devant CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 30	Posted - 2012.11.17 11:24:00 - [3] - Quote WonkySplitDemon wrote: Nope, to be honest David things have been quiet the past few days, not seen many fleets around at all You won't remember mate, but people used to actually fight for system occupancy rather than just flipping it back and forth. Those plex fights, where people were restricted to certain ships types and had to re-tool for different plexes were some of the best I've had in eve. With the new hulls they will be amazing, if, they happen at all.
David Devant CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 30	Posted - 2012.11.17 11:29:00 - [4] - Quote Val'Dore wrote: Logistics only encourage bigger blobs and worse overshipping. Logistics encourages people to think rather than simply throwing pppppppppp v ppppppppp. Regardless please stick to the op. To summarise: Plex fights were good. They could be really good come 4th December. Can we have plex fights again? If not why not? What can we do to fix it?
David Devant CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 34	Posted - 2012.11.17 16:57:00 - [5] - Quote So far: - Station lockouts are bad - LP as a motivation is bad I don't agree that defensive placement is too much of a advantage, should be easier to break with new ewar and logi. For myself, as I have said elsewhere, plex fighting has no meaningful purpose for gangs and I think this needs to change. Other than to get a fight why would you bother. Some sense of shared purpose needs to be fostered.
David Devant CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 40	Posted - 2012.11.19 09:12:00 - [6] - Quote I hadn't really considered the new ship restrictions when I created this thread. It strikes me that whoever can field a decent T3 and Logi gang will rule the day in mediums and majors. How would people feel about a 'rookie' cruiser plex?
David Devant CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 40	Posted - 2012.11.19 14:26:00 - [7] - Quote Bad Messenger wrote: agharaster wrote: Let me post a little test for an after patch possible scenario: You are plexing lone somewere in a medium with your zealot (brawler fit) you scan a slasher, omen and an auguror at your plexe's gate. how do you think you will react? a) stay and fight b) run c) warp out, call some friend, form a gang accordingly with the enemy fleet, and back to fight d) other i would leave my zealot home and take some better ship for solo. It is sad that usually single frigate can tackle zealot for ever. Hello, My name is condor. I can tackle anything forever. Kthxbai.
David Devant CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 41	Posted - 2012.11.20 09:06:00 - [8] - Quote I think that boosts (although this is a bit of a thread derail gais) provide an advantage to people wanting to p v pppp and that can't be denied. I don't think butt-hurt people should destroy this form of pew pew but I can accept that the mechanics maybe aren't great. I don't really get off on Lokis personally, when I'm using boosts I'm there in scram range blapping your face. I could take a nerf to OGBs happily enough but you'd need to boost active tanking in some other way because at the minute the most overpowered thing in EvE is numbers. All this aside I don't think FW should just be about small skirmishes (although these are fun) what I'm complaining about is the lack of larger gangs. There is currently no incentive to mobilise them in occupancy warfare and OGB has nothing to do with that.

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