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Vicarrah
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Posted - 2005.04.20 15:39:00 -
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http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news_archive.vm?id=457§ion=News&month=current
Sony has reversed its 6 year old decision to disallow the sale of virtual items within Everquest....actually they're going to allow the sale of rights to use an item, which isn't quite the same thing, but for the end user is roughly equivalent.
Is this a new future for MMO's?
discuss.
Vicarrah
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Skogen Gump
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Posted - 2005.04.20 15:56:00 -
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I hate the idea of this, I don't mind paying for EVE, it's worth it - but I would not like to have to pay for decent equipment in the game. You'd end up with gangs camping all the good spawns for rare and valuable drops.
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SirSpectre
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Posted - 2005.04.20 16:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Skogen Gump
I hate the idea of this, I don't mind paying for EVE, it's worth it - but I would not like to have to pay for decent equipment in the game. You'd end up with gangs camping all the good spawns for rare and valuable drops.
And they dont do this already? 
Anyway I dont think they should allow that. It ruins the game. I dont want to see some rich n00b with a caldari navy raven with the best gear in the game just because they are rich in RL. Everyone should work for what they get in game.
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2005.04.20 16:07:00 -
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\o/
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.04.20 16:20:00 -
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THANK YOU.
This post jsut made my day. Why? Because I'm filthy rich on EQ2 and wondering what to do with it all :). Perhaps I could make enough money in EQ2 to pay for my eve account :P.
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2005.04.20 17:55:00 -
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I believe something like this happened in lineage? Where it actually became a profession in the east 
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There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
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Frost Killer
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Posted - 2005.04.20 20:38:00 -
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Damnit now they allow this ****. That ****es me off. I tried selling my EQ2 account just to recoop the costs of buying it and thats it. But noooooooo Sony pulled the fricken thing so I just gave my **** away to another friend eventually.
Total BS, and 2 years from now they will complain they are getting 8x the volume of calls in and decide to throw this idea out the door.
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Tahreem
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Posted - 2005.04.21 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Genesis
I believe something like this happened in lineage? Where it actually became a profession in the east
mmm apparently DRM, Dreamsmiths (yes the corporation ingame) is playing the wrong game 
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Artean
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Posted - 2005.04.21 08:05:00 -
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Edited by: Artean on 21/04/2005 08:06:19
Guess it was just a matter of time before Sony would allow transactions of real $$ betweeen players (note, with a small transaction fee attached to it...).
They are not first, however. Check out this article...
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Vicarrah
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Posted - 2005.04.21 09:40:00 -
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Yeah, I head of Entropia before, but that was designed to allow for transfer of items for cash.
SOE however, have said for 6 years that they would NOT allow item transfers, now they reverse their decision and create a precendent for the other MMO's to follow, and the other developers are watching to see how it pans out.
personally I think the idea of having different servers for trading and non-trading is good. if you don't want to play against RL-Cash players, then play on a non-enabled server.
unfortunately this isn't possible with Eve as we only have one server cluster.
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Knoppaz
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Posted - 2005.04.21 16:59:00 -
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The funny part is, that SOE can sell everything, plat, items, whatever cheaper than the playerbase and make a fortune through that and nobody would even notice that the char from whom they're buying stuff really belongs to SOE.. lol
SOE realized that EQ2 isn'T what they expected it would be and now they use that system to get the cash they "lost" with releasing an unfun game 
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Theonlystd
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Posted - 2005.04.21 19:13:00 -
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They've been thinking about doing this for awhile cause i remembering getting poll questions about if you'd like this option like in eq. Dont see why they shouldnt they wont ever stop the illegal trading. And the prolly get thousands of emails of poepel who got ripped off in trades ect. So why not regulate it?So i can see y they did it
Tho i still think its a bad idea i played a game where trading stuff for real money was legal. You had guys dropping 1k like it was nothing to be uber in no time and others just hoping to make a buck. Didnt do much for the game tho it did pay for my phone bill a few months suckkers
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James Raven
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Posted - 2005.04.21 19:23:00 -
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One of the problems I have with this whole buying ingame items is that there's not going to be any way to keep your items, or their value, once the game shuts down. Sure, that new Titan ship might be worth ~$1000 IRL, but if CCP yanks the plug, say good bye to all that money. And you just know that the EULA and TOS will make sure that CCP aren't held responsible for you paying real money for something that, for all intents and purposes, doesn't really exist. The same can be said of every other game out there. Once the company drops the game, there goes any value it might have once had.
Another problem I see is this.. what if they decide that your new ship, that Ubar Titan Of POS Destruction with 20 mhps is too powerful, and cut it down to be on par with a Raven, for example. All of a sudden your super valuable ship just got it's price cut by at least an order of magnitude, and there won't be a thing you can do about it besides crying in your room.
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Shimatu
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Posted - 2005.04.22 00:55:00 -
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thing is, with the company running it, it starts off as "We allow players to auction items" and before long its "You can now buy the Uber Sword of Roxoring for just $29.95!!"... and then before you know it the character creation screen will have buttons that allow you to select whatever level you want, whatever kit you want, whatever quest credit you'd like and however much money you can afford and then just bill you for it then and there, cutting out all that tedious 'having to play the game' stuff.
3-I's T2 sales can be found HERE
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.04.22 01:18:00 -
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I'm just amazed it wasn't EA who came up with this first. But then again SOL sucks.
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Tariel Orenia
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Posted - 2005.04.22 02:45:00 -
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The thing is, it looks bad for a lot of players - but on the other hand, some players are going to benefit RL because they get to sell stuff they probably had some fun getting. Which I have no ability to disapprove of.
In general though, I don't think it's too bad or too good of an idea. It's just something. The good thing about EVE is even if they got a Titan with five thousand torp and cruise launchers attached, they'd still need to train to use it.
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Komarosu
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Posted - 2005.04.22 07:33:00 -
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It'll be all fun and games until SOE start loosing money from it, when the item runners decide to sell up shop :)
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Lythius Arcturnus
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Posted - 2005.04.22 13:56:00 -
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With things like this its really hard to tell what will happen because its never been done before.
In my opinion though I see it going like this....
#1 Certain portions of MMO's will be camped 24/7. This will create massive nightmares for customer service departments. Even more so than the fraud complaints they receive now I think.
#2 Items will become so incredibly cheap that you will be able to buy second next to best gear with very little money. People will sell things VERY cheap when they can have fun while getting them. Some people will also TRY to make a living off selling things. When this happens the supply usually goes way up.
#3 MMO companies will be increasingly pressured to turn out more and more content faster and faster because as players gain better gear they gain the ability to defeat content very quickly.
#4 In the end nothing will change. The ENTIRE goal of EVERY player in EVERY MMO is to gain power and differentiate their character from other characters. If everyone can buy "sword 003" for 3.95 from Camper'sRus then everyone will have it. The idea that you are actually gaining something from buying gear will turn out to be in reality nothing more than an illusion.
Just my predictions.
I also don't care if SOE does it or not. I swore to myself a long time ago I would never play another one of their games. They are concerned with profits and ONLY profits. I honestly think that if given the choice between making a little profit and being honorable and making alot of profit and abusing their customers that they would abuse their customers.
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Twisted Xistance
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Posted - 2005.04.23 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Skogen Gump
I hate the idea of this, I don't mind paying for EVE, it's worth it - but I would not like to have to pay for decent equipment in the game. You'd end up with gangs camping all the good spawns for rare and valuable drops.
what differencer does it make... I mean peopel will sell them on ebay anyway, I think the only reason why its illegal ingame is that if it was allowed then ccp would repetedly be dragged into ebay disputes and it would create one hell of a lot of work for the devs.
tbh I really dont think that ccp care....
End of the day it wont effect isk purchases within the game at all I dont think, tbh wether we or ccp like it or not there is and always has been a real money exchange rate on eve, I used to frequently check ebay just out oof interest. Exchange rate is really crappy now but it used ti be pretty good. However items cost morr isk now.. ect
so basically every item in the game is worth a certain amount of isk which in turn is worth a certain amount of money on ebay so no one loses out wether they sell the item for money or isk I suppose.
I really dont think that if ccp made it legal it would effect anything in game, you would simply have the option to pay in isk or real money which both at the end of the day equate to the same thing.
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Twisted Xistance
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Posted - 2005.04.23 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Komarosu
It'll be all fun and games until SOE start loosing money from it, when the item runners decide to sell up shop :)
nah SOE would technically make money from it left right and centre, think about it... if someone was serious about making a living by playing the game then they would inevitably set up numerous accounts hence the companys profits would prolly at least double in a week... makes sense
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