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Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:19:00 -
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Title says it all.
Why is this 'feature' still in the game?
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Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
43
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:20:00 -
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Probably wouldnt make sense to remove it o/ |
Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:22:00 -
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I don't even... This doesn't exist in the game. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
443
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:22:00 -
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because it facilitates people doing stupid things, which creates content |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
891
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:23:00 -
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Highsec.
Using it in nullsec is suicide, and it's inadvisable in low. |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
3099
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:26:00 -
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Ocih wrote:Title says it all.
Why is this 'feature' still in the game? You want to make highsec more safe by removing features used to AFK in highsec?
We are through the looking glass now.
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Gotch Urarse
0
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:27:00 -
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If players use a game mechanic without understanding or accepting the consequences, who cares if it exists or not?
I literally just took a white knuckle 6-jump trip out of null/low, then a 12 auto-run to get 'home'. Was never AFK, and was ready to run/fight the entire time. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:28:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Highsec.
Using it in nullsec is suicide, and it's inadvisable in low.
It's suicide in high Sec too. You have the kill mails to prove it. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1069
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:29:00 -
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Ocih wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Highsec.
Using it in nullsec is suicide, and it's inadvisable in low. It's suicide in high Sec too. You have the kill mails to prove it.
I've never been killed in highsec while on autopilot & I do it alot. Although, I don't carry nice stuff in my cargohold while doing it. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Thiassi Uth'Matar
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:32:00 -
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I hit Autopilot and step away from the keyboard quite often. However, I do consider the consequences. The risk vs reward etc. Time is everything in Eve, and keeping moving (although very slowly) while I eat dinner with the family or whatever is a reward. The risk is getting ganked, so I reduce this risk by only using Autopilot in High Sec, in a hull that will not make me cry too much to losse. |
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Perihelion Olenard
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:35:00 -
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A few years ago I have seen a freighter on auto pilot going through low sec. Unfortunately I wasn't in a ship that could tank the gate guns long enough. Amazingly, that guy made it to his destination without getting shot at. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:39:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Ocih wrote:Title says it all.
Why is this 'feature' still in the game? You want to make highsec more safe by removing features used to AFK in highsec? We are through the looking glass now.
Speaking of AFK game play. Lets create a Scenario.
Suppose I am multi boxing and I have a character logged in to lets say Uedama III and another in, oh I don't know, lets say somewhere in Deklein?
I have a guy running fleet booster in Deklein, he doesn't need to be paying attention, he's behind a POS Bubble so he can watch his Uedama char and see if anyone is trying to Auto Pilot through the system in fat old freighters. He see's one and a bunch of his buddies, all running anoms in Deklein can flip to their dual boxed AFK account and go out and kill the freighter.
Isn't that really just using AFK to get more out of an otherwise boring game?
If they removed Auto Pilot, the game would still be kind of tedious but those guys multi boxing Deklein and Uedama would now have to chose. Do I sit on a gate in Uedama and kill freighters the hard way or do I sit in Deklein and do Anoms?
Sounds like Win- Win because we don't want those nasty AFK people in EVE, do we? |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
3100
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:42:00 -
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Ocih wrote:Sounds like Win- Win because we don't want thos nast AFK people in EVE, do we? Let the punishment fit the crime. The punishment for AFK autopiloting in a freighter is not to take away everyone's autopilot ability. The proper punishment is to let other people pop the freighter and take all the goodies. Everyone wins!
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
443
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:43:00 -
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i sense an agenda behind the op |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:45:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Ocih wrote:Sounds like Win- Win because we don't want thos nast AFK people in EVE, do we? Let the punishment fit the crime. The punishment for AFK autopiloting in a freighter is not to take away everyone's autopilot ability. The proper punishment is to let other people pop the freighter and take all the goodies. Everyone wins!
True but now it's selective punishment based on my ability to power one account or multiple accounts. That's not very fair, is it? |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1069
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:45:00 -
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Ocih wrote:James 315 wrote:Ocih wrote:Title says it all.
Why is this 'feature' still in the game? You want to make highsec more safe by removing features used to AFK in highsec? We are through the looking glass now. Speaking of AFK game play. Lets create a Scenario. Suppose I am multi boxing and I have a character logged in to lets say Uedama III and another in, oh I don't know, lets say somewhere in Deklein? I have a guy running fleet booster in Deklein, he doesn't need to be paying attention, he's behind a POS Bubble so he can watch his Uedama char and see if anyone is trying to Auto Pilot through the system in fat old freighters. He see's one and a bunch of his buddies, all running anoms in Deklein can flip to their dual boxed AFK account and go out and kill the freighter. Isn't that really just using AFK to get more out of an otherwise boring game? If they removed Auto Pilot, the game would still be kind of tedious but those guys multi boxing Deklein and Uedama would now have to chose. Do I sit on a gate in Uedama and kill freighters the hard way or do I sit in Deklein and do Anoms? Sounds like Win- Win because we don't want those nasty AFK people in EVE, do we?
This information is still hilariously wrong. Despite Powers SA actually telling everyone exactly how we do this, people still have no clue. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:48:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Ocih wrote:James 315 wrote:Ocih wrote:Title says it all.
Why is this 'feature' still in the game? You want to make highsec more safe by removing features used to AFK in highsec? We are through the looking glass now. Speaking of AFK game play. Lets create a Scenario. Suppose I am multi boxing and I have a character logged in to lets say Uedama III and another in, oh I don't know, lets say somewhere in Deklein? I have a guy running fleet booster in Deklein, he doesn't need to be paying attention, he's behind a POS Bubble so he can watch his Uedama char and see if anyone is trying to Auto Pilot through the system in fat old freighters. He see's one and a bunch of his buddies, all running anoms in Deklein can flip to their dual boxed AFK account and go out and kill the freighter. Isn't that really just using AFK to get more out of an otherwise boring game? If they removed Auto Pilot, the game would still be kind of tedious but those guys multi boxing Deklein and Uedama would now have to chose. Do I sit on a gate in Uedama and kill freighters the hard way or do I sit in Deklein and do Anoms? Sounds like Win- Win because we don't want those nasty AFK people in EVE, do we? This information is still hilariously wrong. Despite Powers SA actually telling everyone exactly how we do this, people still have no clue.
I know how you do it. I don't want to stop you from doing it. That gives you an EVE is becoming trammel soap box to climb up on to. I want to make it harder. |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
3102
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:48:00 -
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Ocih wrote:True but now it's selective punishment based on my ability to power one account or multiple accounts. That's not very fair, is it? What are you talking about?
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1069
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:51:00 -
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Ocih wrote:I know how you do it. I don't want to stop you from doing it. That gives you an EVE is becoming trammel soap box to climb up on to. I want to make it harder.
So you know how we do it, but you also have no idea? How does that work exactly? Also if it's so easy, why aren't more people doing it? Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Renan Ruivo
Vera Cruz. Nulli Secunda
897
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:52:00 -
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This thread features Productive Use of Time. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
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Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
522
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:55:00 -
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Because manually piloting across highsec in a shuttle does not make for either beneficial or enjoyable gameplay.
Also, without autopilot, no-one would know where the f**k they were going, even if they were piloting manually. |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
155
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:55:00 -
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Have you guys every tried to transport something across the map? Autopilot keeps people sane. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.11.20 03:59:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Ocih wrote:I know how you do it. I don't want to stop you from doing it. That gives you an EVE is becoming trammel soap box to climb up on to. I want to make it harder. So you know how we do it, but you also have no idea? How does that work exactly? Also if it's so easy, why aren't more people doing it?
You make it seem complex.
EHP reduced by more dps than there is EHP = dead freighter.
Without Auto Pilot, you could still do this. You would never get a kill though if you did it docked at Autaris III. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
891
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Posted - 2012.11.20 04:01:00 -
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Ocih wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Highsec.
Using it in nullsec is suicide, and it's inadvisable in low. It's suicide in high Sec too. You have the kill mails to prove it.
I hope that's a plural you because I haven't been in highsec except in passing since the whole Burn Jita thing. One of the greatest misconceptions about goons is that we are all of one mind.
Given my druthers I'd much rather be out in deep null taking someones home away from them, or just parking my winebago on their lawn while my white trash children run around naked in the front yard than burning freighters in highsec. |
Ocih
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Posted - 2012.11.20 04:03:00 -
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Nylith Empyreal wrote:Have you guys every tried to transport something across the map? Autopilot keeps people sane.
It is faster with WTZ. So AFK travel is what you are asking for. I don't support a WTZ auto pilot so removing Auto Pilot is the only other option.
If EVE travel is that boring, they can set up NPC High Sec Jump Bridges and charge ISK based on L-ozone ratios and use it as a sink. |
Ocih
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Posted - 2012.11.20 04:13:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Ocih wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Highsec.
Using it in nullsec is suicide, and it's inadvisable in low. It's suicide in high Sec too. You have the kill mails to prove it. I hope that's a plural you because I haven't been in highsec except in passing since the whole Burn Jita thing. One of the greatest misconceptions about goons is that we are all of one mind. Given my druthers I'd much rather be out in deep null taking someones home away from them, or just parking my winebago on their lawn while my white trash children run around naked in the front yard than burning freighters in highsec.
You are judged by the company you keep. It's why certain people can't get in to GoonSwarm. It's not wrong, it makes sense. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1071
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Posted - 2012.11.20 04:24:00 -
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Ocih wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Ocih wrote:I know how you do it. I don't want to stop you from doing it. That gives you an EVE is becoming trammel soap box to climb up on to. I want to make it harder. So you know how we do it, but you also have no idea? How does that work exactly? Also if it's so easy, why aren't more people doing it? You make it seem complex. EHP reduced by more dps than there is EHP = dead freighter.Without Auto Pilot, you could still do this. You would never get a kill though if you did it docked at Autaris III.
Well the underlined part is obvious, but literally everything else you've said about ganking freighters is wrong. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Lance Rossiter
CHAINS Corp
10
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Posted - 2012.11.20 04:26:00 -
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It provides an outlet for a player's deep dark self-destructive urges before it builds to critical level and forces them to self-destruct their ship. |
psycho freak
Snuff Box
20
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Posted - 2012.11.20 04:28:00 -
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AP is there to help darwinism or ow ever the hell you spell it
also for lulz of stupid losses
also to move my alts empty ship when im to drunk to fly it |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.11.20 04:32:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Ocih wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Ocih wrote:I know how you do it. I don't want to stop you from doing it. That gives you an EVE is becoming trammel soap box to climb up on to. I want to make it harder. So you know how we do it, but you also have no idea? How does that work exactly? Also if it's so easy, why aren't more people doing it? You make it seem complex. EHP reduced by more dps than there is EHP = dead freighter.Without Auto Pilot, you could still do this. You would never get a kill though if you did it docked at Autaris III. Well the underlined part is obvious, but literally everything else you've said about ganking freighters is wrong.
Doesn't matter if I have it figured out. You do, you won;t mind if CCP remove Auto Pilot. You have it all figured out.
Why is it in the Game CCP?
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