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Erusel Proudmoore All Glory to the Hypnotoad 0	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:01:00 - [1] - Quote The question is easy. It is legal to ask for money or get bumped? Because in Abudban there is a "new order" in the ice field that is starting to harras people with this. Here is their webpage: http://www.minerbumping.com/ I think that this sould be punished. But thats my opinion. PD: Sry for my horrible english.
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 1109	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:03:00 - [2] - Quote Yes legal, pay the fee. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious
Ritsum Perkone Caldari State 27	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:04:00 - [3] - Quote Erusel Proudmoore wrote: The question is easy. It is legal to ask for money or get bumped? Because in Abudban there is a "new order" in the ice field that is starting to harras people with this. Here is their webpage: http://www.minerbumping.com/ I think that this sould be punished. But thats my opinion. PD: Sry for my horrible english. Welcome to the forums... But you happen to be out of luck since they are not breaking any rules. I am a proud High Sec Pve player. Got a problem?
Darth Gustav Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension 1800	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:06:00 - [4] - Quote Erusel Proudmoore wrote: The question is easy. It is legal to ask for money or get bumped? Because in Abudban there is a "new order" in the ice field that is starting to harras people with this. Here is their webpage: http://www.minerbumping.com/ I think that this sould be punished. But thats my opinion. PD: Sry for my horrible english. Forum search for "New Order" before creating another thread about the New Order. Did you think maybe other miners might have experienced this, too? For example, were there other miners in Abudban with you? Funny stuff. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Souisa WESCORP 2.0 49	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:08:00 - [5] - Quote They are just carebears, ignore them and they will go away Or support the space anchor https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=166273 o/
LHA Tarawa Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 53	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:08:00 - [6] - Quote Erusel Proudmoore wrote: The question is easy. It is legal to ask for money or get bumped? Because in Abudban there is a "new order" in the ice field that is starting to harras people with this. Here is their webpage: http://www.minerbumping.com/ I think that this sould be punished. But thats my opinion. PD: Sry for my horrible english. How long before you will be able to "anchor" your mining barge?
Lady Ayeipsia Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 421	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:09:00 - [7] - Quote If they are bothering you, relocate to another ice belt. There are ample belts in hi sec. As for the legality, asking for isk is not illegal at all. It's just another protection racket. Asking for out of game money (which I doubt they do) would be illegal. Again, your best course of action is to find a new place to mine. Or, higher mercs to kill them.
Tom Gerard Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 636	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:10:00 - [8] - Quote i think bumping should give an aggression timer. CCP would have come up with a formula to determine if it was an accident or intentional. Likely dependent upon the distance the victim was thrown. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
Anslo BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance 589	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:12:00 - [9] - Quote If you don't like them, join the fight. -\_For the Proveldtariat_/-
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 10378	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:13:00 - [10] - Quote LHA Tarawa wrote: How long before you will be able to "anchor" your mining barge? I'm sure some game will let you do that in 2 or 3 years, and will let you pointlessly grind credits for no reason or purpose. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 989	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:16:00 - [11] - Quote Poasting in the seemingly 1,000th Bumping Thread. Sigh.
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 114	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:21:00 - [12] - Quote I can assure you that we are completely legitimate and CCP Falcon-approved. Are you sure you don't want a permit? It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
admiral root Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis 152	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:22:00 - [13] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Poasting in the seemingly 1,000th Bumping Thread. I hear ya. Personally, I'd try to limit the number of threads I was taking a pasting in to no more than one, but some miners can't get enough of a forum beating. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Anslo BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance 589	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:25:00 - [14] - Quote admiral root wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Poasting in the seemingly 1,000th Bumping Thread. I hear ya. Personally, I'd try to limit the number of threads I was taking a pasting in to no more than one, but some miners can't get enough of a forum beating. Looks like you love taking beatings too with all the PvP losses you've taken -\_For the Proveldtariat_/-
Imports Plus Brothel of Slating Intellectual Lusts 94	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:25:00 - [15] - Quote Glad to see the New Order going strong; keep up the good work guys!
De'Veldrin East India Ore Trade Intrepid Crossing 490	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:26:00 - [16] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: i think bumping should give an aggression timer. CCP would have come up with a formula to determine if it was an accident or intentional. Likely dependent upon the distance the victim was thrown. I think you posting on the forums should give an aggression timer, but hey, that's just me. Unsub or don't.-á I don't care what your reasons are, and neither does anyone else.-á Just click the button and go away - or don't.

CCP Falcon 951	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:27:00 - [17] - Quote This was discussed at great length here. However the thread was locked because people couldn't keep to civil discussion. I'll leave this one open for now, but please remember to follow the forum rules. CCP Falcon -á \|\| -á EVE Community Team -á \|\| -á EVE Illuminati -á \|\| -á-á@CCP_Falcon -á \|\| -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents -- Disciple Of The Delicious Tea --

Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:28:00 - [18] - Quote Erusel Proudmoore wrote: The question is easy. It is legal to ask for money or get bumped? Because in Abudban there is a "new order" in the ice field that is starting to harras people with this. "Legal" would mean this would be an infringement to some law but there isn't. However it's in the gaming rules an stated earlier by some dev this game mechanic is intended. The real question is does it have any sense? As long as it's situational this should be considered "normal" but as per usual some players only play games to hack, harass, destroy and be jackasses with other players. It's a normal behaviour in a game like Eve not really demanding your to be "reasonable", "intelligent", "skilled" or educated, every thing you need to play Eve is understand the rules and circumvent them to ruin some one else fun of gaming and CCP encourages this behaviour. Actions you can take: gank them but you'll have little to no consequence on those actions, most are just scarecrows following the move because they have the feeling someone talks about them therefore are important. Others are just alts of known forum trolls and some maybe, just RMT/BOT pawns making clean place for their own profit. Anything of this really matters. Move along do something else or just change for another system.
Erusel Proudmoore All Glory to the Hypnotoad 0	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:28:00 - [19] - Quote Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: I can assure you that we are completely legitimate and CCP Falcon-approved. Are you sure you don't want a permit? I didn't say that, i just want a second opinion and maybe a third.
Surfin's PlunderBunny The Python Cartel. 3591	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:29:00 - [20] - Quote Posting in a James alt thread "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Rodtrik Aphex Industries 1	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:30:00 - [21] - Quote From what I've observed, they are anything but legitimate.
SaKoil Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:32:00 - [22] - Quote CCP should develop a progress quest like progress-eve where the bot-aspirant miners and haulers could watch their isk go up automatically without ever having to touch a thing. It would help with the servers and bandwidth costs.
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 116	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:33:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: This was discussed at great length here. However the thread was locked because people couldn't keep to civil discussion. I'll leave this one open for now, but please remember to follow the forum rules. :D You're so kind! Erusel Proudmoore wrote: Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: I can assure you that we are completely legitimate and CCP Falcon-approved. Are you sure you don't want a permit? I didn't say that, i just want a second opinion and maybe a third. Here's three opinions: I do not think that Miner Bumping is against the rules. CCP Falcon wrote: So, I just spoke to the GM Team regarding this to get some clarification: Firstly, people who are bumped always have the right to petition. It is the right of any player who feels that they want to petition an issue to do so. However, with regards to the rules in EVE Online our current view is: Bumping is not considered harassment. Bumping is not considered griefing. Bumping is not against the rules. It's actually been used for a long time to prevent warping as a rudimentary form of tackling when you don't have a point, or don't have sufficient disruption strength to keep someone pinned. Along with that, the people that are doing this for the best part are in player corporations. If you don't like what they're doing, declare war on them so that you can punish them, or pay a merc corp to do so on your behalf if you don't want to fight. There are plenty of options to counter this, if you use your imagination. CCP Eterne wrote: Firmly informally. It's not a petitionable action. It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
De'Veldrin East India Ore Trade Intrepid Crossing 490	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:39:00 - [24] - Quote Erusel Proudmoore wrote: Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: I can assure you that we are completely legitimate and CCP Falcon-approved. Are you sure you don't want a permit? I didn't say that, i just want a second opinion and maybe a third. You got the only opinion that actually matters in Post #17 of this thread. Can we close this now? Unsub or don't.-á I don't care what your reasons are, and neither does anyone else.-á Just click the button and go away - or don't.
Anslo BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance 594	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:41:00 - [25] - Quote De'Veldrin wrote: Erusel Proudmoore wrote: Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: I can assure you that we are completely legitimate and CCP Falcon-approved. Are you sure you don't want a permit? I didn't say that, i just want a second opinion and maybe a third. You got the only opinion that actually matters in Post #17 of this thread. Can we close this now? Funny to see that, when dev's say something that is pro carebear or makes ganking or pvp against carebears harder, you hear bloody murder from people like this, even if the Dev's say working as intended. But when it's anti-carebear, it's "working as intended." -\_For the Proveldtariat_/-
SaKoil Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:42:00 - [26] - Quote De'Veldrin wrote: You got the only opinion that actually matters in Post #17 of this thread. Can we close this now? Lets keep this thread open, this question seems to puzzle some of the less informed miners out there and it is good to have a place where they can get the correct information about the subject. For more detailed information and a sure way to avoid the bumping check out http://www.minerbumping.com/.
Anslo BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance 594	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:46:00 - [27] - Quote I believe http://proveldtariat.wordpress.com/ has much better ways to not be bumped -\_For the Proveldtariat_/-
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 118	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:55:00 - [28] - Quote Anslo wrote: De'Veldrin wrote: Erusel Proudmoore wrote: Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: I can assure you that we are completely legitimate and CCP Falcon-approved. Are you sure you don't want a permit? I didn't say that, i just want a second opinion and maybe a third. You got the only opinion that actually matters in Post #17 of this thread. Can we close this now? Funny to see that, when dev's say something that is pro carebear or makes ganking or pvp against carebears harder, you hear bloody murder from people like this, even if the Dev's say working as intended. But when it's anti-carebear, it's "working as intended." Except from the carebears, they don't think it's working as intended. This is a terrible argument, because carebears are obviously going to argue against something that damages them (this) and non-carebears are clearly going to argue against things that damage them (barge buffs, for example). Anslo wrote: I believe http://proveldtariat.wordpress.com/ has much better ways to not be bumped Don't make me laugh. I'm afraid that even the miners admit that your Proveldtariat movement is a failure. You've utterly failed to gain noticeable support, and you've failed to retain even that. Your posting is infrequent, baseless and vapid, with no real point or amusement value. You attempt to imitate James' posting style, but since so much of that is based around carebear tears and bumpers do not provide tears, it fails miserably. Sorry, but better methods of avoiding bumps can be found on www.minerbumping.com. Buying a permit, for example. It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
Adeleda Adoudel Welp The Monkey 33	Posted - 2012.11.20 19:59:00 - [29] - Quote Bad troll is bad.
Anslo BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance 594	Posted - 2012.11.20 20:01:00 - [30] - Quote Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: Don't make me laugh. I'm afraid that even the miners admit that your Proveldtariat movement is a failure. I don't think so. I still see resistance, people dodging, people ignoring, even people advertising the website. So no, you're wrong Quote: ou've utterly failed to gain noticeable support, and you've failed to retain even that. Except it is being supported. You just aren't made aware of it. Why would I tell who who supports it, where they are, etc? Wouldn't that put them in danger? Quote: Your posting is infrequent, baseless and vapid, with no real point or amusement value. The very same could be said for James cultish ramblings, but I digress Quote: You attempt to imitate James' posting style, but since so much of that is based around carebear tears and bumpers do not provide tears, it fails miserably. Bumpers don't provide tears, just utter failure and dejection Quote: Sorry, but better methods of avoiding bumps can be found on www.minerbumping.com. Buying a permit, for example. No, you're wrong http://proveldtariat.wordpress.com/ has actualy examples of how you can avoid bumping without paying extortionist thugs. -\_For the Proveldtariat_/-
Danks Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds 104	Posted - 2012.11.20 20:03:00 - [31] - Quote If the proveldariatish movement was actually doing anything, wouldn't advertising that fact be better to help you gain support? Edit - Also, the bumpers are quite clear as to what system they're operating in, wouldn't that be the place to be?
Anslo BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance 594	Posted - 2012.11.20 20:07:00 - [32] - Quote Danks wrote: If the proveldariatish movement was actually doing anything, wouldn't advertising that fact be better to help you gain support? Edit - Also, the bumpers are quite clear as to what system they're operating in, wouldn't that be the place to be? You can't seem to spell, can you? As for what we're doing, we're young and prefer to keep our activities secret to ensure you do not attempt to stop them. Since you have been around longer, we are playing catch up. You can see our general beliefs and goals in our Manifesto at http://proveldtariat.wordpress.com/about/ -\_For the Proveldtariat_/-
Uriel Hanaya Ministry of War Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.11.20 20:08:00 - [33] - Quote I understand what your doing any whd, but stop dressing it up as the greatest thing to happen to highsec since sliced bread, its extortion, you know it, I know it ,hell my cat knows it. Just a thought on the matter.

CCP Falcon 954	Posted - 2012.11.20 20:09:00 - [34] - Quote Okay, this one's degenerated into the same as the last, so you guys can have it your way. If any more threads come up on this issue, they'll be locked. CCP Falcon -á \|\| -á EVE Community Team -á \|\| -á EVE Illuminati -á \|\| -á-á@CCP_Falcon -á \|\| -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents -- Disciple Of The Delicious Tea --


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