If they do it'll probably wait until command ships and gang link bonuses get redone.

a deimos with 100 mids is still a ship that can shoot only 12 km away and that's including the falloff - I'll never fly the deimos ever again.

A deimos with 4 mids will literally melt faces. All damage mods, all tracking enahncers, all shield EHP. Say goodbye to the vagabond.

Hi, the Thorax will get a 4th Mid slot after this winter patch

Thorax:
Cruiser skill bonuses:
5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage
7.5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret tracking speed
Slot layout: 5 H, 4 M (+1), 5 L, 5 turrets
Fittings: 820 PWG, 330 CPU (+30)
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1200(-324) / 1600(-41) / 1600(+75)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 1450(+75) / 490s(+25.25s) / 2.8
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 240(+60) / 0.49(-0.0658) / 11280000 / 5.2s (-0.7)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 52.5km(-2.5) / 280(+21) / 6
Sensor strength: 15 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 120(-20)
Cargo capacity: 465(+200)

Anything has been said about the deimos ? in theory, it should get a 4th mid slot also right ? Sorry if I missed something

Remember this little thing, same effectiveness for same task with different tools is what it changes from wow type balancing. Many around pretend with a lot of words Eve is different when those are clearly more than anyone else pejorative wow fans appreciating the uber dk buff (their tr+ál+ál+á) and etc but are clearly against any form of balance because everyone would have to use brains instead of tr+ál+ál+á (OGB/game mechanics essentially)

a deimos with 100 mids is still a ship that can shoot only 12 km away and that's including the falloff - I'll never fly the deimos ever again.

I don't understand what is being said in this paragraph.

I don't understand what is being said in this paragraph.

Then you need to read it a couple of times, or perhaps use a translator, or perhaps just use brains if you have some left.

We still have the same old problem with Gallente, this race at it self regroups everything in game not having a single ounce of sense, every single drawback and a huge number of earlier psychology traumatised kids...

Slow ship + extremely poor active tank design+shortest range weapon system in the game.

C'mon, if there wasn't the Gallente slogan there to sell Gallente players place and if CCP would simply put in graphs what gallente ships are capable of, there would be none or just alts training for those ships. It's ridiculous.
After hybrids rebalance things got a little better, then you can often read scarecrows telling how awesome gallente ships are forgetting to tell you they are 10 or 15 at a low sec gate camping and killing anything passing through while cumulating OGB, on grid links, support etc...
Wtf? -no matter the idiot in whatever ship would have the feeling he's great in these conditions, add WH effects and it's even worst.

Deimos was just good to look at in some BPO, it's barely better then but you're still better looking at it as a BPO and will probably not get really better after rebalance. Don't even dream about it, because of the silliest weapon system on top of the silliest tanking type on top of the silliest speed drawbacks ever on top of the stupidest tackling type (Damps, hahaha) and on top of it an uber 8km scram+10km web.

Awesome sauce is awesome, depends if you want to have fun or not.

a deimos with 100 mids is still a ship that can shoot only 12 km away and that's including the falloff - I'll never fly the deimos ever again.

said a bunch of stuffs.

What fit are you flying? Mine can hit you at 30+ km.


That being said a 4th mid on the diemos would be teh sex.*drools*

That's because you're fitting it like a shield talos. You may as well fly the talos, then. It'll do that better and can be insured. It seems like the most popular way to fly gallente now is to put a shield buffer on it and put damage and range mods in the lows. That's in spite of the fact that the base shield amount of gallente ships is low.

CCP has made Gallente a ****** race.

Personally though I choose to remain positive. The overhaul is making Gallente ships a little faster and more agile, at least in theory last I checked. The probable changes to armor tank (especially active tank) could lead to some interesting stuff as well. If they overhaul drones and UI, which CCP Ytterbium recently admitted were terribly outdated, it could make Gallente lineup stronger. Stuff like that.

Then again, I've been waiting for exactly this same stuff since pre-Incarna...so maybe I'm just dreaming.

Read it to yourself in an Arnie voice and it makes sense.

What he's saying is this.

CCP has made Gallente a ****** race. It has the dumbest mix of weapons (close range), speed (lol, armour), armour tanking (lol, speed?), EWAR (damps, which suck), slow-to-apply DPS (drones, you run away...)...and the only reason anyone plays Gallente toons or trains Gallente skills is...well, he doesn't elaborate. But let me.

Gank boats - eg, neutron cats. Used for hisec suicide ganking.
Capitals - the Moros, Thanny and the Nyx rule the roost for capital DPS.
The Talos (blaster) - awesomesauce for pirates brawling in belts
Arazu and Lachesis - would be **** on a bull without the point range
Proteus - its a T3, its stupidly OP in its own way
Domi - best AFK bash ship ever now you have DDA's!

And that's it. There's a few adepts who like flying other Gallente boats, but as Scultz says, it is only with ridiculous automagical Hand of God / Deus Ex Machina OGB Alts that these have any niche at all. Which is only because said ridiculous game mechanics turn a sluggish EFT-warrior's wet dream wrapped in a turdy package into a superfast killdozer. Remove the OGB fairydust element and Gallente suck ass, and the Deimos sucks ass.

But that's not saying much, as so does the Sac. The Zealot hangs on only because of Scorch and Guardians. Ishtars are good for exploration, but you never see nanotar sentry snipers anymore because golly me, everyone's going 2km/s and the Istard isn't and the drones can't track a skirmish-boosted titan anymore.

So, that's about it for Gallente. Oh. And half the time I was actually talking about Vindicators and Vigilant. Thoraxes? Ahahahaha!