Tippia wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:I've not seen a single post from a carebear asking that the PVPers be removed from game.
I'd say you haven't been paying attention, then. They're around and they do indeed often come in the form of requests for PvP switches or locking people out of highsec or completely new shards (not just for restarting, but for a completely different game that is not EVE). When the mention of GÇ£allowing different play stylesGÇ¥ comes along, it often actually means GÇ£disallow certain play styles GÇö specifically the ones that interfere with meGÇ¥. EVE already allows for all the play-styles people are asking for, and that request have a nasty tendency of ultimately trying to hide a
restriction of play styles behind shallow rhetoric of allowing it, and pointing this out gets you shouted down as being a close-minded nullsec zealot who's trying to keep people from playing.
Now we may be moving into the realm of splitting hairs in semantics.
Real world, the saying goes... your right to swing your fist ends at my face. Unless, of course, we're in the boxing ring (or MMA octagon).
If my play style is carebear, and your play style is PVP, then "no interferance with each other's play styles" would dictate that your right to PVP ends at my ship, unless I step into the ring.... that is, low/null sec.
Now, I would not go nearly that far, since I realize there are limited resources that even carebears are going after. How am I going to pay for my army of alt by mining fatty belts, if you have mined up all the belts and bought up all the PLEX from the market to fund your army of alts. AND, if I'm getting too big for my britches... moving around billions of ISK worth of goods in a freighter, and not even scouting and using the friendly web trick... well... I should get blown up for profit.
I actually pretty much like EVE as it is. High sec relatively, but not totally safe. Revitalize low sec with FW. Strong null sec.
What EVE needs is more PVPers that are content to PVP with other players that enjoy PVPing, and fewer sociopaths that want to blow up the ships of carebears.
What's the matter griefer? Can't win a fight against someone that is ready and looking to fight back, so have to take out your frustration by beating up on the people that are not ready for, not looking for a fight?
Pathetic losers, those people are.
Oh... look at me... I'm such an awesome PVPer that I logged off in a belt during a war, then put an out of corp, cloaked up alt in the belt. When a WT came in, I used the out of corp alt to bump the WT while I logged in my PVP toon, and blew up the defenseless miner....
Did you do it to prevent them from mining the belts so you could mine them instead? Nope... just wanted to pad my kill board sats with easy kills to inflate my epeen, and to feast on tasty carebear tears....
Sociopath!