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Rogthgar
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Posted - 2005.04.25 18:31:00 -
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Im currently doing lvl4 missions in a raven, but im having some difficulties with the bigger bs rats, anybody out there got a good rat killing fitting for a raven.
(And possibly a PvP setup, if anyone has one)
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Lord Morkoth
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Posted - 2005.04.25 18:53:00 -
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i use
6siege(1 of them malkuth for cpu)
2 heavy dim nos
1 xl c5l
amp
4 hards (change after npc dmg)
5 pdut2
if u got crappy cpu skills u need to use more malkuths but thats ok. Tanks great and has enough dot to kill all.
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Rogthgar
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Posted - 2005.04.25 18:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Lord Morkoth
i use
6siege(1 of them malkuth for cpu)
2 heavy dim nos
1 xl c5l
amp
4 hards (change after npc dmg)
5 pdut2
if u got crappy cpu skills u need to use more malkuths but thats ok. Tanks great and has enough dot to kill all.
Thx, my current setup is:
hi:1 Heavy Nos, 6 Siege
Med: 1 Large tech 2 shield booster, 1 Amp, 2 Shield Hardeners and 2 cap rechargers
Low: 4 Power Diag tech 2 and 1 ballistic control
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Lord Morkoth
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Posted - 2005.04.25 19:40:00 -
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i think thatll work ok for u, but i think mine is better ;)
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CptEagle
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Posted - 2005.04.25 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: CptEagle on 25/04/2005 19:51:33
My setup is:
High: 6x ZW-4100 Siege, 1 Heavy NOS, 1 Medium NOS
Med: Xlarge C5-L, Amp, 2x hardners, 2x Eutectics
Low: Multiphasic Bolt Array, 4x PDU II
If I'm gonna fight Angels I remove the medium NOS and remove 1 cap recharger and put an extra hardner in.
Without the BCU it wil take too long to kill the big BS's and you can't kill the heavy tanked ones... Unless you got fat-ass skills offcourse :P .
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Ponty
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Posted - 2005.04.25 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rogthgar
Thx, my current setup is:
hi:1 Heavy Nos, 6 Siege
Med: 1 Large tech 2 shield booster, 1 Amp, 2 Shield Hardeners and 2 cap rechargers
Low: 4 Power Diag tech 2 and 1 ballistic control
Try and change the Large shieldbooster to a XL(preferable C5-L), and replace 1 cap recharger for an extra hardener.
Low slot layout is perfect I think, the 1 ballistic control will give you that little extra boost when fighting the big tanks like Supreme drones.
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Ishmael Hansen
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Posted - 2005.04.25 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ishmael Hansen on 25/04/2005 19:54:49
With the 4 hardeners, 2x each, you prolly won't need the cap rechargers, cos you are getting less damage to regenerate. I personally use:
6 siege, 1 heavy nos
XL sb (cl-5 or ward), amp, 4 hardeners (3 + ab if I need to jump system)
5 pdu's II,
Bs and torp skills to at least lvl 4 can really easy it up with the biggest rats, oh, and use the right torps. That should easy even the extra level in extravaganza (guristas, never tried another one), any other setup can work, but as I do missions many times with more then one minute to activate modules lag, they always feel dificult.
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CptEagle
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Posted - 2005.04.25 20:04:00 -
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If I use 5 PDU II's and no damage mod I'm really missing the DoT... and REALLY miss it with the heavy tanked rats... So one PDU less you can still tank well enough but have much more DoT... Saves loads of torps too :)
But its personal, some people like more dot better then heavy tank, some don't :)
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Valrandir
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Posted - 2005.04.25 21:34:00 -
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The X-Large shield booster offer more shield per second then the large shield booster, but it cannot be run as long as a large shield booster and therefore it's shield/second superiority become meanless and what's really count is the shield/capacitor level.
Here's my current setup for level 4 agent kill missions in a raven:
6x Arbalest Siege Launcher
2x E02 Medium Nosferatus
3x hardeners
2x shield boost amplifier
1x large shield booster II
5x ballistic control
As you probably noticed, there is no module to increase the capacitor researge rate at all. But they are not needed since the large shield booster II can be used for a few minutes, and then some more if using the two medium nos for a bit extra capacitor.
To summarize it quickly, I am doing the extravaganza missions in one trip without needing to warp out. Also, the damage over time is almost double the one of a 5x tech 2 pdu setup thank to a much increased rate of fire and damage per torpedo, translating into less time needed by mission, and more isk/hour.
Something to think about 
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Lord Morkoth
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Posted - 2005.04.25 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Morkoth on 25/04/2005 21:38:15
Edited by: Lord Morkoth on 25/04/2005 21:37:37
Originally by: CptEagle
If I use 5 PDU II's and no damage mod I'm really missing the DoT... and REALLY miss it with the heavy tanked rats... So one PDU less you can still tank well enough but have much more DoT... Saves loads of torps too :)
But its personal, some people like more dot better then heavy tank, some don't :)
i have torps lvl4 and use juggs vs all angels. NO trouble at all exept vs those serapihns , have to reload once and never have to worry about tank. Those 1x seraphin and 2x 500k bs
spawns give really good loot 
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2005.04.25 21:47:00 -
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try using banes v`s angels, they are much better than juggs
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Ishmael Hansen
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Posted - 2005.04.25 23:27:00 -
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Valrandir, your setup must deal damage like hell, I should try that as soon as I have a isp letting me play eve like it should be played :P. 6 Arbalest siege + 5 bcu's, are they named? What is your ROF on those Arbas? Me wants that raven.
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Mr Jay
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Posted - 2005.04.25 23:40:00 -
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High = 6 Seige, 2 Nos.
Mids = The best shield booster you can afford to buy, amp, 3 hardners, 1 Cap Charger II.
Low = PDU IIs.
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Lord Morkoth
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Posted - 2005.04.26 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dexter Rast
try using banes v`s angels, they are much better than juggs
yeah ur right u couldnt remember which one so i guessed.
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Valrandir
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Posted - 2005.04.26 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ishmael Hansen
Valrandir, your setup must deal damage like hell, I should try that as soon as I have a isp letting me play eve like it should be played :P. 6 Arbalest siege + 5 bcu's, are they named? What is your ROF on those Arbas? Me wants that raven.
It does indeed. The RoF is 8.88 with stock BCS and Caldari Battleship level IV.
That would be even better with named WCS and the Battleship skill at level V 
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Crazy Steve
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Posted - 2005.04.26 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Morkoth
Originally by: Dexter Rast
try using banes v`s angels, they are much better than juggs
yeah ur right u couldnt remember which one so i guessed.
Your better of using juggers otherwise your dmg sucks balls vs the shield tanked angels. Just check there resistance and jugger does much better all round dmg.
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branodn lee
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Posted - 2005.04.26 01:14:00 -
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i have been doing all lev4 but the etravaganza mission in a raven with 6 siege lauchers, 2 heavy nos, 1large tech2 shield booster, 2amps, 3hardners, then 5pd'2s
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Rogthgar
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Posted - 2005.04.26 16:43:00 -
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Thx for all your help :)
How much resistance to you get with those 4 hardeners, dont think you can block it all out?
Since when have you been afraid of a little insanity?
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Lord Morkoth
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Posted - 2005.04.26 17:07:00 -
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lol maybe i was right all the time , thx steve
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.04.26 19:33:00 -
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Nos DO NOT work on NPCs. They work on the first cycle only, then the NPC has no more cap to drain. Trust me on this.
I run this for Angels:
6x Siege
2x Large Notos Explosive (virtually useless but saves torps on the little guys that come inside 5km).
1x Large Shield Booster 2
1x Named EM
1x Named Thermal
1x Named Kinetic
1x Named Explosive
1x Eutectic
5x PDU 2
Works great. I took armor damage on a Domination spawn (1%) but everything else is cake.
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Cuebick
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Posted - 2005.04.26 23:02:00 -
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against Angels:
4x Siege Missile Launchers 2x 'Malkuth' Siege 2x Named Large Nosferatus
1x XL c5-l sb, shield amp, em, kinetic, thermal and explosive hardener
5x pdu II's
- though the nos not working with more than one cycle it's good for killing anything that tries to gank/tackle you if that happens 
And use BANE torpedoes!
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BattleBot
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Posted - 2005.04.27 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: BattleBot on 27/04/2005 00:18:55
"1x Large Shield Booster 2
1x Named EM
1x Named Thermal
1x Named Kinetic
1x Named Explosive
1x Eutectic""
It's bound to be something obvious but what the hell is a Eutectic???
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2005.04.27 00:57:00 -
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battlebot: named cap recharger
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