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Phobos Eversor Order of the Black Dagger Ushra'Khan 1	Posted - 2012.11.28 04:14:00 - [31] - Quote Braitai wrote: LNA has always punished both mistakes and treachery with brute, uncompromising force regardless of the material amount involved. It weeds out the weak, separating those who will learn from those who are not suited to be our allies. You want to talk about treachery? LNA just dropped a Battleship fleet with Archon support on top of the U'K fleet attempting to liberate Floseswin. 3 U'K pilots died respecting the cease-fire brokered between U'K and LNA.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 44	Posted - 2012.11.28 04:21:00 - [32] - Quote Thorvik wrote: Our pilot, likely, would not have know that it was 95% complete until he actually entered the plex or did you find some mechanic that indicated the time left on a site from the jump gate? He burned to the button after being asked to leave. Being at the warp-in does not qualify you for the reward. Quote: In your opinion. Not my opinion. Fact. Your newer pilots have been awoxing us and stealing rewards off and on for months. As Sumdumgi pointed out, this is not an isolated incident. Sumdumgi wrote: I believe some of UK think this is single isolated incident far behind enemy lines where no attempts at communication/interaction were made. This has, in my opinion, been a slow burn that finally reached some oxygen to bring it to life Quote: I never insulted Bahamut. Your alliance mates have.
M0220H KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance 21	Posted - 2012.11.28 05:02:00 - [33] - Quote Sumdumgi wrote: Poetic Stanziel wrote: KPP, the initiators of this war... FALSE Poetic Stanziel wrote: [KPP] want a very particular reputation: Dicks of the Minmatar FACT Who wants to see my KPP tattoo?
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 48	Posted - 2012.11.28 05:17:00 - [34] - Quote Phobos Eversor wrote: Braitai wrote: LNA has always punished both mistakes and treachery with brute, uncompromising force regardless of the material amount involved. It weeds out the weak, separating those who will learn from those who are not suited to be our allies. You want to talk about treachery? LNA just dropped a Battleship fleet with Archon support on top of the U'K fleet attempting to liberate Floseswin. 3 U'K pilots died respecting the cease-fire brokered between U'K and LNA. There was no cease-fire.
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 3388	Posted - 2012.11.28 05:24:00 - [35] - Quote Ugleb wrote: It is clear to us that the only true victors in all of this shall be the Amarr. We are frustrated by LNA's actions but unsurprised as they have a history of aggression and intimidation against other members of the TLF. At this point we consider diplomacy to have run its course, any peaceful resolution is now entirely in the hands of LNA. We shall actively defend our pilots and their interests against LNA aggression and take whatever steps we deem necessary to achieve that. A bold statement, good sir. By invoking language of civil war and directly referencing our mutual enemy be aware that you are essentially declaring one of two things. Either: - That U.K. will somehow stand in the way of Late Night Alliance's attempts to take and hold space on behalf of the Minmatar Militia, providing a meaningful interruption in our regular military actions and allowing the Amarrians to make progress in the turbulent days ahead OR - That any LNA interference with your military actions will somehow lead to the downfall of the Minmatar Militia, which not-so-subtly implies that you are the force holding back an inevitable Amarrian onslaught. Frankly, as a lifelong loyalist to the Republic - I find your lack of faith in our people disturbing. At best, you fail to recognize an inherent strength that no dispute between our tribes could waver. At worst, you are engaging in what is commonly known as "propaganda" and using rumor of civil war to stir up sympathy from unaffiliated Matari brethren and use them to your own advantage. I wasn't there when this latest war broke out, I don't know why it started, and frankly I don't really care. I take my orders from Bahamut420. What I do know is this: - This war will not be harming the Minmatar Militia's long-term strategic goals in any way, shape, or form. Bahamut is no fool. HOWEVER - This war will be a lot of fun. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
Galdornae KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance 18	Posted - 2012.11.28 05:25:00 - [36] - Quote Phobos Eversor wrote: Braitai wrote: LNA has always punished both mistakes and treachery with brute, uncompromising force regardless of the material amount involved. It weeds out the weak, separating those who will learn from those who are not suited to be our allies. You want to talk about treachery? LNA just dropped a Battleship fleet with Archon support on top of the U'K fleet attempting to liberate Floseswin. 3 U'K pilots died respecting the cease-fire brokered between U'K and LNA. No such agreed upon cease fire existed. Ushra'Khan diplomats who contacted LNA officials were told specifically that they could not promise a cease-fire. When Lowhyres contacted LNA diplomat Gritz1, he was told that: n++[ 2012.11.28 02:25:30 ] Gritz1 > I would not count on our assistance mate. We were told yesterday that we would not be shooting each other in flos specifically - I was told baha was shot today in flos - i dont know what happened n++[ 2012.11.28 02:27:16 ] Gritz1 > ill do my best but honestly i do not know what is going to happen, im trying n++[ 2012.11.28 02:27:22 ] Gritz1 > but im not the boss. Any assumption by UK leadership that a cease-fire was in effect was in error. It should go with out saying that any previously standing informal agreement (there was NO formal cease-fire at any point) would be void when UK pilots destroyed our fearless leader Bahamut's cynabal in Floseswin while he was assisting the effort to take the system. You cannot expect such treacherous acts to go unpunished. For a the entire story behind LNA's glorious capture of Floseswin, please read this Mission Report by our elite specialist Braitai.
Amun Khonsu Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance 56	Posted - 2012.11.28 05:35:00 - [37] - Quote Gald beat me to it ^^ See his mission report. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts.
Galdornae KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance 18	Posted - 2012.11.28 06:06:00 - [38] - Quote "I bring you war. I am a river unto my people." -Bahamut420
Pinky Feldman Gank Bangers Moar Tears 405	Posted - 2012.11.28 06:07:00 - [39] - Quote Vordak Kallager wrote: Believe what you like, cupcake. My quote from above still stands. The Minmatar Militia is one of the most inter-connected and glued together of any of the militias. Even though Hands himself explicitly called your quote out as propaganda when I read it to him and what i've seen in this thread in addition to the fact that this is pretty much a repeat of similar incidents months beforehand pretty much only serves to reinforce previous opinions about LNA and U'K. Even though you're someone who repeatedly has spoken out against certain things Poe has said only to contradict yourself hard, much later on. Despite people like Xuixien's and other's attempts within the Minmatar to make me out to be a propagandist, I consider myself to be one of the much more moderate players within the Amarr and actually disprove greatly of the ridiculous amount of vitriol on all sides within FW over the past few months. We have done much more fighting against U'K/D'K over the past few months and there is definitely a certain level of mutual respect between the two parties that has developed. While i'm not saying that we need to become best friends, this is a marked divergence from our experiences fighting LNA. Which, I have lost almost all respect for as a group of pilots. You guys are decent enough at PVP, but everything that comes out of your mouths from one minute to the next is worse than Fweddit localposting. There was a time where I actually actively defended LNA as being a group people should respect as PVPers, which then you guys managed to spin into some ridiculous nonsense about the Amarr realizing they are outclassed or some other CFC-like nonsense. Give LNA a gf local after a fight and expect to see a blog post later about how you tried to play off a massacre by saying gf or some other ridiculousness. Call it metagaming, whatever you want but its tired and its boring. Yes it makes you guys unpleasant to be around and people not want to fight you, but anyone can act like a douchebag and "winning FW" by making everyone else want to leave for non-combat reasons isn't really something worth bragging about. U'K and D'K actually bring fights and while we have outnumbered them in US TZ, we truly and genuinely look forward to them growing their numbers and the many fights to come. On the other hand, groups like LNA pubically chest beat and criticize the Amarr for being too afraid to lose ships, yet whenever we hear about a LNA fleet and come down to Huola or Kourm, you dock up and everyone logs off, only to log back on and go back to ganking the second we leave. I can understand this to some degree when you guys are outnumbered, but oftentimes this happens when our numbers are equal. There are also times when there are two Minmatar gangs of 20 out for a combined total of 40 pilots and neither will fight our 25 man Amarr gang, even though if they combined they would surely win. Where is the grand unity or the willingness to always fight that the Minmatar are so willing to brag about or is this more of your brilliant strategy where you bore the Amarr out of FW by never fighting? I honestly don't care if your militia is fragmented or everyone is super best friends, but its childish to talk down on your opponents when your own side is no better. Seriously, when was the last time the Minmatar militia formed a fleet with over 100 people in it? When there is the possibility of a good fight, we have consistently formed 50 man+ flash fleets even on weekdays, only to be blueballed, which i'm sure you will say is part of the grand Minmatar strategy to keep Amarr numbers down, yet all that tells me is there more people who want to see pixels explode in the Amarr militia than there are in the Minmatar militia. In fact, I have seen just as many fleets formed because an FC from another group or alliance has requested numbers as I have random pickup fleets. I will admit there was once a time where I was totally fine with Minmatar corps leaving FW because it meant that in relative terms, our side became stronger, but what I came to realize over time is that really just means you have one less group of pilots to fight against and the fewer fights overall, the fewer people you have logging in on your side, resulting in an overall situation that is unhealthy for the entirety of FW. Are the kills and overall number of people who have joined FW since Inferno up? Definitely, but those numbers shouldn't be the only thing that are used to gauge the health and future of FW, nor should they be an excuse to put down legitimate concerns about the system. Factional Warfare truly does have the potential to be way bigger than it is now, yet i've seen more reasonable conversations get sidetracked by ridiculous propaganda sperge than I have good fights over the past couple months. Really, how long will it be before the reputation of FW turns into the one it had prior to Inferno, where the general consensus for people outside of FW was that it was a suckfest? How long before the people who are actively promoting FW and getting new pilots to join and show them a good time get tired of the childish attitudes of many FW bloggers and public bloggers? I hear the counter-arguement all the time, that FW has historically carried a certain level of pettiness so its unrealistic to ever expect people to put that aisde, but in my opinion thats just a ridiculous excuse that people use to justify being a douchebag and I still have yet to see any actual attempt since joining from any of the groups to try otherwise. tl:dr Its easy to say anything you want when your side is winning. LNA slaughtered a U'K fleet tonight and still flipped a system, yet despite the fact that the Amarr leadership flashformed a diverse gang of almost 50 to fight them, the reason the Amarr are losing is because they lack unity and the ability to work together. Please, drink some more of your own kool-aid. The moar you cry the less you pee
Jessie Arr Order of the Black Dagger Ushra'Khan 26	Posted - 2012.11.28 06:10:00 - [40] - Quote Galdornae wrote: n++[ 2012.11.28 02:25:30 ] Gritz1 >[...] - i dont know what happened[/b] n++[ 2012.11.28 02:27:16 ] Gritz1 > [...] i do not know what is going to happen n++[ 2012.11.28 02:27:22 ] Gritz1 > [...] im not the boss. A perfect summary of LNA's diplomatic performance over the last 6 months, sadly. "I don't know what's going on, but someone told me you were a jerk so now we're enemies!" Galdornae wrote: n++UK pilots destroyed our fearless leader Bahamut's cynabal in Floseswin while he was assisting the effort to take the system. Considering that no CONCORD-sanctioned killmail confirming such has appeared on UK's killboard, nor LNA's I'm going to go so far as to call this an outright lie, and a convenient excuse for betrayal. As always, a classy display from LNA. But you're mistaken if you think that the traitorous disruption of our attempts to take an Amarrian system will discourage us in any way, either from further efforts to continue crippling the Amarrian war machine as we have done in the Floseswin area over the last week, or in our war against you, who mysteriously choose to aid them. We are Ushra'Khan... And no matter who stands in our way, We come for our people! Order of the Black Dagger is a corp based around a simple goal: getting as much small gang PvP as we can handle. We accept USTZ PvP pilots of all skill levels.-áIf you are interested in joining, or simply flying with us from time to time, join our ingame channel: Dagger Pub and give us a shout! Our killboard:-áhttp://evedaggers.com/kb
Galdornae KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance 18	Posted - 2012.11.28 06:19:00 - [41] - Quote Jessie Arr wrote: Galdornae wrote: n++UK pilots destroyed our fearless leader Bahamut's cynabal in Floseswin while he was assisting the effort to take the system. Considering that no CONCORD-sanctioned killmail confirming such has appeared on UK's killboard, nor LNA's I'm going to go so far as to call this an outright lie, and a convenient excuse for betrayal. http://latenightalliance.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15322426 Please check the facts before you run your mouth.
Thorvik Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 51	Posted - 2012.11.28 06:22:00 - [42] - Quote [quote=Hans Jagerblitzen] A bold statement, good sir. By invoking language of civil war and directly referencing our mutual enemy be aware that you are essentially declaring one of two things. Either: - That Ushra'Khan will somehow stand in the way of Late Night Alliance's attempts to take and hold space on behalf of the Minmatar Militia, providing a meaningful interruption in our regular military actions and allowing the Amarrians to make progress in the turbulent days ahead OR - That any LNA interference with your military actions will somehow lead to the downfall of the Minmatar Militia, which not-so-subtly implies that Ushra'Khan is the force holding back an inevitable Amarrian onslaught. [\quote] I took you for a smart person. I guess I was wrong. This war dec serves only one thing. Your egos. The dissent your action sows, weakens the militia and strengthens the resolve of the enemy. Sure, they currently are only just building their strength, but your actions do nothing to aid our side and, in fact, damages any future joint operations within many Militia corps and alliances as they will inevitably take sides. I will repeat what I stated above. Grow up.
Thorvik Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 52	Posted - 2012.11.28 06:26:00 - [43] - Quote Galdornae wrote: Jessie Arr wrote: Galdornae wrote: n++UK pilots destroyed our fearless leader Bahamut's cynabal in Floseswin while he was assisting the effort to take the system. Considering that no CONCORD-sanctioned killmail confirming such has appeared on UK's killboard, nor LNA's I'm going to go so far as to call this an outright lie, and a convenient excuse for betrayal. http://latenightalliance.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15322426 Please check the facts before you run your mouth. So let me get this straight. Galdornae wrote: No such agreed upon cease fire existed. Ushra'Khan diplomats who contacted LNA officials were told specifically that they could not promise a cease-fire. No cease-fire was agreed upon You declared war on us Bahamut is now butthurt over being shot at by WTs?
Galdornae KA POW POW Inc Late Night Alliance 18	Posted - 2012.11.28 06:44:00 - [44] - Quote Thorvik wrote: So let me get this straight. Galdornae wrote: No such agreed upon cease fire existed. Ushra'Khan diplomats who contacted LNA officials were told specifically that they could not promise a cease-fire. No cease-fire was agreed upon You declared war on us Bahamut is now butthurt over being shot at by WTs? No. My point is that the UK claim that there was a cease-fire during the bunker shoot is incorrect and frankly laughable.
Braitai Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 49	Posted - 2012.11.28 06:45:00 - [45] - Quote Galdornae wrote: Jessie Arr wrote: Galdornae wrote: n++UK pilots destroyed our fearless leader Bahamut's cynabal in Floseswin while he was assisting the effort to take the system. Considering that no CONCORD-sanctioned killmail confirming such has appeared on UK's killboard, nor LNA's I'm going to go so far as to call this an outright lie, and a convenient excuse for betrayal. http://latenightalliance.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15322426 Please check the facts before you run your mouth. It's quite telling that he edited his post to try and cover up the fact that he got caught out.
Poetic Stanziel Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1476	Posted - 2012.11.28 07:50:00 - [46] - Quote Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: Ugleb wrote: It is clear to us that the only true victors in all of this shall be the Amarr. We are frustrated by LNA's actions but unsurprised as they have a history of aggression and intimidation against other members of the TLF. At this point we consider diplomacy to have run its course, any peaceful resolution is now entirely in the hands of LNA. We shall actively defend our pilots and their interests against LNA aggression and take whatever steps we deem necessary to achieve that. A bold statement, good sir. By invoking language of civil war and directly referencing our mutual enemy be aware that you are essentially declaring one of two things. Either: - That Ushra'Khan will somehow stand in the way of Late Night Alliance's attempts to take and hold space on behalf of the Minmatar Militia, providing a meaningful interruption in our regular military actions and allowing the Amarrians to make progress in the turbulent days ahead OR - That any LNA interference with your military actions will somehow lead to the downfall of the Minmatar Militia, which not-so-subtly implies that Ushra'Khan is the force holding back an inevitable Amarrian onslaught. Frankly, as a lifelong loyalist to the Republic - I find your lack of faith in our people disturbing. At best, you fail to recognize an inherent strength that no dispute between our tribes could waver. At worst, you are engaging in what is commonly known as "propaganda" and using rumor of civil war to stir up sympathy from unaffiliated Matari brethren and use them to your own advantage. I wasn't there when this latest war broke out, I don't know why it started, and frankly I don't really care. I take my orders from Bahamut420, whose track record of success is undeniable even by your own Alliance. What I do know is this: - This war will not be harming the Minmatar Militia's long-term strategic goals in any way, shape, or form. Bahamut is no fool. HOWEVER - This war will be a lot of fun. 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... in before Hans realizes that weighing in on this drama will affect his CSM8 run and he starts backpedaling off these statements. Amarr Militia
Poetic Stanziel Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1476	Posted - 2012.11.28 08:00:00 - [47] - Quote Maybe Fweddit and U'K should set each other blue for the duration of this wardec ... we can form up fleets and hunt LNA together. Amarr Militia
Vordak Kallager Mafia Redux 491	Posted - 2012.11.28 08:35:00 - [48] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: Ugleb wrote: It is clear to us that the only true victors in all of this shall be the Amarr. We are frustrated by LNA's actions but unsurprised as they have a history of aggression and intimidation against other members of the TLF. At this point we consider diplomacy to have run its course, any peaceful resolution is now entirely in the hands of LNA. We shall actively defend our pilots and their interests against LNA aggression and take whatever steps we deem necessary to achieve that. A bold statement, good sir. By invoking language of civil war and directly referencing our mutual enemy be aware that you are essentially declaring one of two things. Either: - That Ushra'Khan will somehow stand in the way of Late Night Alliance's attempts to take and hold space on behalf of the Minmatar Militia, providing a meaningful interruption in our regular military actions and allowing the Amarrians to make progress in the turbulent days ahead OR - That any LNA interference with your military actions will somehow lead to the downfall of the Minmatar Militia, which not-so-subtly implies that Ushra'Khan is the force holding back an inevitable Amarrian onslaught. Frankly, as a lifelong loyalist to the Republic - I find your lack of faith in our people disturbing. At best, you fail to recognize an inherent strength that no dispute between our tribes could waver. At worst, you are engaging in what is commonly known as "propaganda" and using rumor of civil war to stir up sympathy from unaffiliated Matari brethren and use them to your own advantage. I wasn't there when this latest war broke out, I don't know why it started, and frankly I don't really care. I take my orders from Bahamut420, whose track record of success is undeniable even by your own Alliance. What I do know is this: - This war will not be harming the Minmatar Militia's long-term strategic goals in any way, shape, or form. Bahamut is no fool. HOWEVER - This war will be a lot of fun. 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... in before Hans realizes that weighing in on this drama will affect his CSM8 run and he starts backpedaling off these statements. What, he's not allowed to play the ***** game? U'K vs. LNA has nothing to do with Hans station on the CSM. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you'd try to make this an issue though. Sa souvraya niende misain ye.**
Poetic Stanziel Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1477	Posted - 2012.11.28 09:03:00 - [49] - Quote Vordak Kallager wrote: Poetic Stanziel wrote: 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... in before Hans realizes that weighing in on this drama will affect his CSM8 run and he starts backpedaling off these statements. What, he's not allowed to play the ******* game? U'K vs. LNA has nothing to do with Hans station on the CSM. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you'd try to make this an issue though. I'm just commenting on Hans' personality. Obviously he's a troll at heart, but he's been making every effort since donning the CSM hat to be agreeable to as many people as possible. He's very political, like that. He must have been drunk when he wrote that troll above. It's the only explanation. Amarr Militia
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 3389	Posted - 2012.11.28 09:11:00 - [50] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Maybe Fweddit and U'K should set each other blue for the duration of this wardec ... we can form up fleets and hunt LNA together. I hope this is simply part of a coordinated (though predictable) effort to milk the latest situation for every ounce of potential drama, because otherwise you're late to the party - Almity of Imperial Outlaws had already initiated contact with Late Night Alliance earlier this evening and made an offer of support in attacking Ushra'Khan capital ships if the opportunity presented itself. I can't tell if this is a poorly-hatched plan or if you're really in that much of a hurry to pad killboard statistics, either way it's amusing as hell and worth every dime Bahamut420 spent on Galdornae's birthday present.* Yes, you heard me correctly. Allow me to explain a bit about our culture which is so often misunderstood: You see, it is LNA tradition to do great and noble deeds on behalf of each of its warriors upon their annual naming-day. For events celebrating our greatest warriors, these deeds can often involve overcoming difficult decisions (I heard straws were drawn to see which poor soul was tasked with breaking the news of the wardec to our friend Kuan Yida) but we believe that a true* Minmatar always sees any battle, internal or otherwise, as a chance to strengthen ourselves for the moments where we face our true slaver enemy. Sadly Ushra'Khan does not share our practical stance on the value of scrimmage and has chosen instead to victimize themselves rather than make the best of an opportunity to learn, grow, and entertain one's fighting forces. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
kraiklyn Asatru T.R.I.A.D 43	Posted - 2012.11.28 09:21:00 - [51] - Quote I am sure Hans knows he doesn't stand a chance of getting reelected.
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69 Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 273	Posted - 2012.11.28 14:18:00 - [52] - Quote Me reading this thread.
Aln Al-Thalab Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 6	Posted - 2012.11.28 17:54:00 - [53] - Quote Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: Almity of Imperial Outlaws had already initiated contact with Late Night Alliance earlier this evening and made an offer of support in attacking Ushra'Khan capital ships if the opportunity presented itself. So... LNA pilots' claims that they destroyed the U'K fleet because they feared it's weakness and inability to defend against an Amarr fleet is utter bull****. In reality, LNA deployed a carrier-supported BS fleet in hopes the Ushra'Khan would deploy thier own capitals. Having struck a deal with the Amarr, such ruse would allow for a joint Amarr/LNA fleet to ambush a U'K cap fleet. your dedication to TLF is obviously unquestionable...
Aln Al-Thalab Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 6	Posted - 2012.11.28 17:56:00 - [54] - Quote Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: Almity of Imperial Outlaws had already initiated contact with Late Night Alliance earlier this evening and made an offer of support in attacking Ushra'Khan capital ships if the opportunity presented itself. So... LNA pilots' claims that they destroyed the U'K fleet because they feared it's weakness and inability to defend against an Amarr fleet is utter bull****. In reality, LNA deployed a carrier-supported BS fleet in hopes the Ushra'Khan would deploy thier own capitals. Having struck a deal with the Amarr, such ruse would allow for a joint Amarr/LNA fleet to ambush a U'K cap fleet. your dedication to TLF is obviously unquestionable...
Thorvik Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan 54	Posted - 2012.11.28 17:57:00 - [55] - Quote Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: ... - stuf - ... either way it's amusing as hell and worth every dime Bahamut420 spent on Galdornae's birthday present.* Yes, you heard me correctly. Allow me to explain a bit about our culture which is so often misunderstood: You see, it is LNA tradition to do great and noble deeds on behalf of each of its warriors upon their annual naming-day. For events celebrating our greatest warriors, these deeds can often involve overcoming difficult decisions (I heard straws were drawn to see which poor soul was tasked with breaking the news of the wardec to our friend Kuan Yida) but we believe that a true* Minmatar always sees any battle, internal or otherwise, as a chance to strengthen ourselves for the moments where we face our true slaver enemy. Sadly Ushra'Khan does not share our practical stance on the value of scrimmage and has chosen instead to victimize themselves rather than make the best of an opportunity to learn, grow, and entertain one's fighting forces. This is getting more amusing by the minute. Initially, we are told that LNA placed a war dec on U'K because a scout, which happened to be a new pilot, flew into a plex in order to steal valuable Loyalty Points. In that statement, LNA painted themselves as the victim of the "interlopers" that are Ushra'Khan. We were the "bad" guys for attempting to steal resources from the poor pilots in LNA yet they were the ones that financed the Wardec. Don't forget. U'K were the ones taking this "WAAAAAAAAY too seriously". Some LNA pilot got butthurt over the fact that someone in U'K may (or may not) have tried to horn in on his precious LP. "Awoxing", I believe the word was. And we are the serious ones...? War dec went live and they have made every effort to not speak with us with regards to that incident despite our attempts. That's fine. We now hear from prominent space politico that "OH, this is all a birthday present for Galdornae"... and that U'K are painting themselves as the victims. This is a change of tack and looks vaguely like an attempt at damage control. As part of the overall TLF / Militia strategy, U'K was working with other TLF corps and alliances last night to flip Flosewin. A direct attack was made by LNA (as part of their "fun") on the TLF joint operations fleet in the liberation of Flosewin. The fleet was FC'd by U'K and fleet was ordered to not attack LNA but concentrate on the task at hand. As a result, 3 pilots lost their ships to "Friendly Fire". LNA showed their true colours and their treachery is self evident. Bahamut420 was heard to say "We are not here for TLF". A more true statement hasn't been uttered by the LNA up to that point. By directly attacking a joint TLF fleet they proved their "loyalty" to the TLF and the Minmatar cause.

CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 677	Posted - 2012.11.28 18:16:00 - [56] - Quote Good evening capsuleers. I have striven to remove comments from this thread that are of an inexplicable nature. Please remind yourself about the rules of this forum and choose your words appropriately, else I will have to lock this topic and issue further warnings. Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept @CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents

Jessie Arr Order of the Black Dagger Ushra'Khan 27	Posted - 2012.11.28 18:19:00 - [57] - Quote Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: Sadly Ushra'Khan does not share our practical stance on the value of scrimmage and has chosen instead to victimize themselves rather than make the best of an opportunity to learn, grow, and entertain one's fighting forces. Allow me to clarify - we are not the victims here. Many (see: all) of us are happy for the war for personal reasons, but we also understand that our role in the Militia is greater than ourselves and that this really isn't about us OR LNA. The fact that LNA can't see past themselves to understand how this affects the militia as a whole is mind-blowing to me. The winners here are the Amarr, LNA and UK, all of whom will enjoy this war. The victims are the brave warriors of the Minmatar Militia who have no hand in this war and are watching two of their strongest allies' attention be divided due to infighting. And it is for their sake that we have worked to avoid the war. We will enjoy it like we do every war. Maybe even a tad more. Your bravado only adds an immature glamor to your own short-sightedness, and no one who's been paying attention is buying it. Order of the Black Dagger is a corp based around a simple goal: getting as much small gang PvP as we can handle. We accept USTZ PvP pilots of all skill levels.-áIf you are interested in joining, or simply flying with us from time to time, join our ingame channel: Dagger Pub and give us a shout! Our killboard:-áhttp://evedaggers.com/kb
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 3393	Posted - 2012.11.28 18:39:00 - [58] - Quote Aln Al-Thalab wrote: Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: Almity of Imperial Outlaws had already initiated contact with Late Night Alliance earlier this evening and made an offer of support in attacking Ushra'Khan capital ships if the opportunity presented itself. So... LNA pilots' claims that they destroyed the U'K fleet because they feared it's weakness and inability to defend against an Amarr fleet is utter bull****. In reality, LNA deployed a carrier-supported BS fleet in hopes the Ushra'Khan would deploy thier own capitals. Having struck a deal with the Amarr, such ruse would allow for a joint Amarr/LNA fleet to ambush a U'K cap fleet. your dedication to TLF is obviously unquestionable... Oh, please. I said Almity made an offer, not that we actually cared. Our response was simply to laugh it off and warn them that there would be no truce with Amarrians, and that they hovered around our activities at their own risk. Imperial Outlaws and Fweddit remain our mortal enemies regardless of their attempts to strike opportunistic bargains with either of our Alliances. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
Scottish Play Major Kong Freight 4	Posted - 2012.11.28 18:51:00 - [59] - Quote Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: . . . and that they hovered around our activities at their own risk. Ha. When you Late Nighters learn to focus fire, then there'll be some actual risk in attacking you.
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance 3394	Posted - 2012.11.28 19:29:00 - [60] - Quote Jessie Arr wrote: The victims are the brave warriors of the Minmatar Militia who have no hand in this war and are watching two of their strongest allies' attention be divided due to infighting. And it is for their sake that we have worked to avoid the war. While I can certainly appreciate the "for their sake" sentiment being employed here, I will once again reassert my confidence in Bahamut420 that he will not allow this dispute to actually jeopardize TLF long-term goals. I don't think you're giving him enough credit, especially since he was the consistent voice against going to war until LNA's warnings had been ignored for too long, and responsibility to protect his alliance's interests kicked in. If Floseswin had fallen last night, you would make a strong case for this. If any Minmatar systems had fallen previously the LAST time a Matari alliance decided to label LNA as traitors and fret about the Amarr taking advantage of our internal dispute, you might make a strong case. History is simply repeating itself, and as before, once the war blows over and everyone gets their jollies from it life continue on and the Minmatar Republic will be just as strong as ever. During that wardec as well, there were many cries of "but this hurts our people" and "how could you betray the TLF" which never actually translated into any real system loss. Not to mention Bahamut was at the time more than reasonable and made every effort to sort out the dispute, resisting the knee-jerk decision to go to war despite his alliance mates' demands. It was only when there was clear and present evidence that one of his friends had been attacked that he took action. Rehashing tired hyperbole isn't going to convince anyone there is a real crisis generated by this most recent wardec. Bahamut420 is shrewd, cunning, fearless, and in control. His loyalty to the Minmatar Militia is irrefutable both historically and evidenced through the accolades your Alliance has showered on him for his achievements. You can continue to ignore his spotless track record and question his decisions, but as any Alliance leader he has a right to protect those under his authority from those that would continually provoke them, and is quite capable of doing this without losing systems to the Amarr in the process. When LNA aggression on UK directly leads to the loss of a Minmatar system, I'll be happy to revisit this and concede the issue. Until than, "in Baha we trust". Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.

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