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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.05.01 11:29:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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Marichek
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Posted - 2005.05.01 11:44:00 -
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So, should I D/L this vid because it proves that KIA singlehandedly destroyed FoE (lol) or because all the comments about it are great?
D/Ling to find out for myself...
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.05.01 11:51:00 -
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Sigh
Never claimed anythin gof the sort.
by "the war"
I meant the war FOE had struck up with PA/G etc.
KIA played our part, nothing more, nothing less.
Wind ya neck in.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.05.01 11:53:00 -
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the vid is actually quite good marichek.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.05.01 12:36:00 -
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Hey, dont forget IRON, we were in this war 2 months before even G were.
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Angst
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Posted - 2005.05.01 13:32:00 -
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Quote: Hey, dont forget IRON, we were in this war 2 months before even G were.
Never been a threat. (\_/) (X.x) gank -----Tihs iz gank bunneh. Employ at gates for max bunnage. |

Dr Jekill
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Posted - 2005.05.01 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Phillis Stein Only my second ever post on ths forum, but Google did get it wrong. The Hoplon was the large round shield carried by the Classical Greek soldiers. This gave the name Hoplite. Hoplon = Shield Hoplite = Soldier
Sorry but this is wrong.
This is the correct one (what juduzz said) Hoplon = Weapon Hoplite = The Man caring the Hoplon (ie weapon)
the large round shield called in greek (Aspida)
Sorry for the hijaking not intendent. Vera Lynn --------------------------------------------- Born in London in 1917 became one of the most famous voices of World War II Vera's most popular song was "We'll Meet Again" |

Shylan
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Posted - 2005.05.01 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Marichek
Originally by: Shylan lol I knew this would happen, F-E turning on FoE and telling them to vacate "their" space. Vale hasn't been "your" space for a very long time. I support FoE in whatever they do against F-E and the rest of you muppets
Actually, I take that back, Eddz; Shylan is the most ignorant "man" in eve.
Sticks and stones m8
Being called Ignorant by a member of F-E, oh how my heart bleeds. How can I go on living knowing everyone hates me, lol like i give a ****
Knowing everyone hates me is kinda cool really, at least I know where I stand. Unlike being allied with F-E, just waiting for the knife in the back
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.05.01 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Shylan
Originally by: Marichek
Originally by: Shylan lol I knew this would happen, F-E turning on FoE and telling them to vacate "their" space. Vale hasn't been "your" space for a very long time. I support FoE in whatever they do against F-E and the rest of you muppets
Actually, I take that back, Eddz; Shylan is the most ignorant "man" in eve.
Sticks and stones m8
Being called Ignorant by a member of F-E, oh how my heart bleeds. How can I go on living knowing everyone hates me, lol like i give a ****
i cry myself to sleep at night when i think about all the people that hate me in this game. 
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sariss
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Posted - 2005.05.01 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bayroo ..The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
I can remember that you were one of the first to switch sides when F-E backstabbed TPS.
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.05.02 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Angst
Quote: Hey, dont forget IRON, we were in this war 2 months before even G were.
Never been a threat.
We didn't want to destroy you. For what reason would we have? It was nice having you as neighbours, some good fights from time to time, at least when someone didn't decide that blobs would be fun. You were sometimes coming to us, and most often we were coming to you, that could have been going for ages, IMHO.
I'm no expert in politics, but if you hadn't messed with PA and others, I think you would still be alive.
The time has come to unite the whole north, I think, from Fade to Vale and up to Tenal. Now is born in the south a tremendous military power (at least in numbers).
Will we face a new gigantic war, north versus south? I hope so, because since the destruction of FoE, there's nothing left to fight in the north.
My wish would be that 5 comes to the north (XF is dead and burried anyways) and show us how powerful they are 
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IamBen
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Posted - 2005.05.02 23:22:00 -
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Easy with the chest banging 
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Orb Lati
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Posted - 2005.05.03 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide i cry myself to sleep at night when i think about all the people that hate me in this game. 
We should spare a thought for poor Foyle. Slowly being ostracized from the Eve Community by being blamed for every bad thing that happens within our alliance to the point where it appears that our enemies offer enticements to FOE corporations so we will abandon her.
I seem to remember prior to our war with PA there was a general feeling that it was inevitable and was reinforced with acts neutrality and outright assistance to hostile ships coming and returning back into Venal.
Anyway I feel its unfair to lay the blame solely at the feet of Foyle for actions which the majority of the Alliance agreed with. The actions we took may have been ordered by Foyle but it was our alliances ôwillö which dictated the order.
An interesting item to note is once it started get tough for FOE we had several of our member corps stating they never wanted this war and didnÆt like attacking their ôfriendsö. But nobody has asked them why they didnÆt leave FOE at the beginning of the war if their morals were so ôstrongö. And do you think they would have still left if it was FOE giving G alliance and PA a run for their money instead of the other way around.
Sorry to highjack you quote MAX but after reading that and also readings some of the other vile stuff said about one of our leaders I felt it was worth commenting on.
I hope FOE will survive this disgrace by some of our Ex members as I still felt the idea behind FOE, a pure PVP alliance, is a worthy enterprise and something I feel proud to be a member of.
As for Peace in the North. F-E are in tribute. A corp which betrayed their ôfriendsö then betrayed their Alliance and are only their at the sufferance of G-Alliance (whom they were attacking). Pay backs a ***** and as far as I know she still commands FOE. 
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Shylan
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Posted - 2005.05.03 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Orb Lati
We should spare a thought for poor Foyle. Slowly being ostracized from the Eve Community by being blamed for every bad thing that happens within our alliance to the point where it appears that our enemies offer enticements to FOE corporations so we will abandon her.
Yes Orb everyone always blames Foyle when anything goes wrong in the alliance, it wasnt her fault at all! The only thing wrong with Force of Evil was the fact Forsaken Empire were members of it. I mean when are you people ever going to learn. F-E are nothing more then a bunch of backstabbers. First they backstab The Pirate Syndicate which I was a member of claiming we were just looking after "their" space while they were playing Liniege 2. So they come back and kick us out. Then they team up with Deviance (another corp of backstabbers) and they end up backstabbing them and claiming they have had their stations too long in Tribute and kicked them out. Then Force of Evil alliance is formed and low and behold F-E backtab them and leave them too.
I for one am glad to see F-E losing their grip of "their" region. What goes around comes around!!
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.05.03 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: Voltex on 03/05/2005 15:17:57 lol Bayroo, what book did u get that speach from 
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Heptameron
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Posted - 2005.05.06 14:42:00 -
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What most peeps seem to forget is a lot of the PvP players are testosterone seeking youngsters who are after the buzz of conquest and victory. If they get a sniff of failure they jump ship and look for the next winnable war/fight/whatever.
It's normally the older types who have a thing called loyalty and honour in their blood that makes them stick it to the very very end and they see no light at the end of the tunnel to get them out.
I fought FoE (not very well, but i fought nevertheless.....) and they were cool peeps. Smackfree and pretty damn good at what they do. Kudos to them wherever they may have gone for fighting the fight in the way it should be done. SOme of the testosterone seeking brigade should perhaps take a lesson in honour in defeat 101.
Here's a favourite quote of mine that I have used before:
Quote: It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat'
That is how i measure the qualities of an opponent or a 'friend' equally.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.05.06 15:05:00 -
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foyle 4TW tbh.
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GinoShin
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Posted - 2005.05.06 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Heptameron What most peeps seem to forget is a lot of the PvP players are testosterone seeking youngsters who are after the buzz of conquest and victory. If they get a sniff of failure they jump ship and look for the next winnable war/fight/whatever.
It's normally the older types who have a thing called loyalty and honour in their blood that makes them stick it to the very very end and they see no light at the end of the tunnel to get them out.
I fought FoE (not very well, but i fought nevertheless.....) and they were cool peeps. Smackfree and pretty damn good at what they do. Kudos to them wherever they may have gone for fighting the fight in the way it should be done. SOme of the testosterone seeking brigade should perhaps take a lesson in honour in defeat 101.
Here's a favourite quote of mine that I have used before:
Quote: It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat'
That is how i measure the qualities of an opponent or a 'friend' equally.
Not so, young hot shots dont aways think like that... least I dont but hey everyone has there own prespective on eve
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Gehry
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Posted - 2005.05.06 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: IamBen Easy with the chest banging 
no doubt |

Waywatcher
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Posted - 2005.05.06 23:20:00 -
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I dont really know what this forum is about anymore but i will say one thing..... i came back to old FE space to fight with friends once again and found too many noobs like maxsuicide who tried to take a senior role when they just arnt up to the job. You peeps slag FE off but they have been a force in the north in one form or another since i can remember, i hope you guys get a foot hold back up there |

Waywatcher
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Posted - 2005.05.06 23:23:00 -
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LOL Foyle for teh win!!!??? i dont think so poor leadership and poor decisions no offence foyle if u read this but flirting with kids to keep control is just sad. Curse is dead....get over it and undock |

Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2005.05.07 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Waywatcher LOL Foyle for teh win!!!??? i dont think so poor leadership and poor decisions no offence foyle if u read this but flirting with kids to keep control is just sad. Curse is dead....get over it and undock
that was not flirting
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Foyle
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Posted - 2005.05.07 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Waywatcher LOL Foyle for teh win!!!??? i dont think so poor leadership and poor decisions no offence foyle if u read this but flirting with kids to keep control is just sad. Curse is dead....get over it and undock
And who are you?
Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
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Countessa
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Posted - 2005.05.07 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Foyle
Originally by: Waywatcher LOL Foyle for teh win!!!??? i dont think so poor leadership and poor decisions no offence foyle if u read this but flirting with kids to keep control is just sad. Curse is dead....get over it and undock
And who are you?
Well there ya go :/ Waywatcher in the short time the he was in FOE was No8 in the most kills position on the FOE killboards. He was also the No1 solo killer in FOE according to your killboards.
I think Foyle you have just made his point.
I agree with what Waywatcher said about 'n00bs' being given positions of power. When we 1st joined FOE we was told to 'get on TS'. So we did we organised an op too go kill and that we did.
During that op some random person came into our TS channel and started barking out orders for us to join there fleet, it was not the way i had imagined FOE to be (for therecord we killed nothing under his command)
We joined up to shoot and kill anything you pointed us at, what we actually got was people shouting at us all the time and ordering us about.
FOE Imo was not an alliance but more like a 'slave' culture. With a few people 'slapping' every1 into line.
I spoke to Foyle on a few occastions and found her to be a most polite and pleasant person. But that does not make any1 else thats placed into positions the same, and being polite does not make you a great leader.
I am sure that people will say 'it wasnt Foyles fault' But you must look at the facts : 1 Who was incharge 2 Who deligated commaders 3 Who did people look to for leadership
I know what happened to FOE was nothing to do with me as i had absolutly no authority within there at all.
These are meerly my comments and thoughts and nothing more.
I wish Foyle all the best in whatever you persue and dont ever take this game serious enough to allow it to make you sad in RL.
Berneh > im gonna **** myself blind in a sec, im just printing a pic of siobhan then im off to bed SuperJonny > lolz
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.05.07 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 07/05/2005 14:54:21 so thats why u all ****ed off to providence when we needed u to help fight the hordes of enemies invading our lands?
no offence too, of course.........
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Zacheria Malfor
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Posted - 2005.05.07 15:19:00 -
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From my brief stay in the alliance there seemed to be lack of respect between the corporations and the commanders within the alliance.
Max - Did it enter your mind that maybe the reason Legion & co disappeared off to providence once they grew sick of the way they were treated.
But FoE isn't dead from what i can see, just shifting about to get resettled to try once again at being a true PvP alliance within eve.
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Waywatcher
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Posted - 2005.05.07 17:45:00 -
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Max your a joke hence the fact i blocked you witih hours of joining FOE. We "****** off" to providence cos i was sick of peeps sitting in stations not willing to risk their ships and poor leadership.... coming on TS and saying its all ok sweeties wasnt helping the situation. Dont get me wrong there was lots of very good peeps in FOE. I apologise if i have upset any of them but there wer to many clueless peeps who thought that camping P3 is fighting |

Waywatcher
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Posted - 2005.05.07 17:47:00 -
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And Foyle.... leaders lead by example |

Countessa
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Posted - 2005.05.07 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Countessa on 07/05/2005 17:58:52
Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 07/05/2005 14:54:21 so thats why u all ****ed off to providence when we needed u to help fight the hordes of enemies invading our lands?
no offence too, of course.........
No we left during a time of peace just after the Xetic war. And your attitude is what i am talking about. We all returned and left many ships behind, only to arrive and find people like yourself shouting and basically abusing people in alliance chat.
I play Eve-Online because i enjoy it and its fun. I dont wish to pay RL ú's to be insulted by people i dont know. Nor was i willing to be under the leadership of people that seemed to think that the louder they shouted the more incharge they was of a fleet.
I agree (for once) with Waywatcher in saying that there are many great people in FOE and they have my utmost respect. But what Legion, The Priory and Hells Mercs have is how we expect others to be, which is loyal to each other and respect for each others members.
Not smack talking your own alliance in alliance chat like i saw people do many times. Its not what you need when the next day you will all be in the same gang fighting for your life.
These are meerly my thoughts on the matter and nothing is written in stone.
Berneh > im gonna **** myself blind in a sec, im just printing a pic of siobhan then im off to bed SuperJonny > lolz
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Lexa A
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Posted - 2005.05.07 18:51:00 -
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I have been in corp 1 most of the time I have played this game and because of this have spent a lot of my time under the leadership of Foyle and first of all FOE insent dead, not as long as i and my fellow corpmates have ships. The second thing i am quite concerned about is the fact people are saying things such as people barked orders in ts. In all my time with FOE I have only seen/heard orders being barked near the time that f-e left. I donÆt really care about the beliefs of a few but i will do all in my power to keep FOE alive and trust me the people in my corp will do the same. We may be smaller but one thing is for sure we arenÆt in the process of dieing or become a weak group of people. The people that are left in FOE are the finest you can get all this situation has done is filtered out the waste.
lexa A
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