But the real question is what we should all patch-speculate on!?

Sentry guns will no longer attack drones, only ships.

Sleeper AI has been added to mission and belt NPCs.

Just shows you it's good to ask, even if it takes a year to come. (actually a year is rather quick work, thanks CCP)

Some specific characters that still had female Achura bra issues have been fixed.

YOU'LL NEVER CLOTHE ME ALIVE, COPPERS!!!

You know I had to go out to google to find the link.

3 different web sites CCP and none of them have a quick link to each other.
Or if they did I missed them on a quick scan.

At any rate

Patch Notes

"The new mining frigate blueprint may be obtained in Outer Ring through the ORE faction stations

Really CCP ?????

ITT: Crying about having to go to NPC null-sec.

I predict some good tears along the Orvolle pipeline.

Ah the good old tears line.

Nope because it is a frigate that only a new player will use.
It just means there will be less on the market for those newer players.

Frigates make almost zero profit.
Basically CCP is killing the ship before it even comes out, that was my point .

Ah the good old tears line.

Nope because it is a frigate that only a new player will use.
It just means there will be less on the market for those newer players.

Frigates make almost zero profit.
Basically CCP is killing the ship before it even comes out, that was my point .

woot? link pls...thats great news

"The new mining frigate blueprint may be obtained in Outer Ring through the ORE faction stations
The new mining frigate may also be acquired by running the Industrial Career Path"

Really CCP ?????

You gave us the ability to get the other new ore ship's BPO's locally for awhile.
But now with a item that is specifically designed for newer players you are going to make it so the prices on it are incredibly high.

This is a FRIGATE for new players not some T3, T2 or Captial ship.

Exequror:
Amarr Cruiser bonuses: -5% remote armor repair system capacitor use and +12.5% remote armor repair system amount per level

Scythe:
Caldari Cruiser bonuses: -5% shield transfer capacitor use and +12.5% shield transfer repair amount per level

YOU'LL NEVER CLOTHE ME ALIVE, COPPERS!!!

You know I had to go out to google to find the link.

3 different web sites CCP and none of them have a quick link to each other.
Or if they did I missed them on a quick scan.

At any rate

Patch Notes

I didn't see the +2 warp strength listed for the mining frigate.

blockade runners are immune to cargo scanners,

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Just do the mining career path again a few times and call it good.

You gave us the ability to get the other new ore ship's BPO's locally for awhile.

I hope that's not a typo, the thing already aligned faster than an interceptor. It really doesn't need any more help being uncatchable. ofc, looking at the hit points it might be able to be vollied by just about any BC.

I predict Blockade Runnageddon coming to a Niarja near you......

Well I find it funny that you could pick up the Orca and the Noctis BPO's in High-sec , granted an obscure NPC corp that only had a few locations for at least a couple of weeks before they where removed.

But a frigate for new players.
Nope that one you have to run a mission line or run to null to get a BPO.

Like I said CCP is killing the ship from the start.
It basically shows their attitude towards miners.
The other 2 ships were not mining ships so they were easy to get.

I just find it interesting how CCP chooses to role out there new mining ship.

Like I said CCP is killing the ship from the start.

It basically shows their attitude towards miners.

Again time for smartbombs in belts :-)

Blockade Runners are now immune to cargo scanners

Radar Sensor Compensation, Gravimetric Sensor Compensation, Magnetometric Sensor Compensation and Ladar Sensor Compensation skills have been added to the market for 180000 ISK each Gùª These increase their specific sensor strength by 4% per level

Will these decrease target locking time or what? Can someone explain for a noob like me please?

Uhm, no, you're making a mountain out of a molehill. .

Just shows you it's good to ask, even if it takes a year to come. (actually a year is rather quick work, thanks CCP)

OH SNAP!

"The new mining frigate blueprint may be obtained in Outer Ring through the ORE faction stations
The new mining frigate may also be acquired by running the Industrial Career Path"

Really CCP ?????

You gave us the ability to get the other new ore ship's BPO's locally for awhile.
But now with a item that is specifically designed for newer players you are going to make it so the prices on it are incredibly high.

This is a FRIGATE for new players not some T3, T2 or Captial ship.

Ah the good old tears line.

Nope because it is a frigate that only a new player will use.
It just means there will be less on the market for those newer players.

Frigates make almost zero profit.
Basically CCP is killing the ship before it even comes out, that was my point .

Huh, not so pleased with this. If you let your blockade runner even be cargo scanned, then you deserve anything that happens next.

uhh, are you thinking of transport ships?

uhh, are you thinking of transport ships?

Huh, not so pleased with this. If you let your blockade runner even be cargo scanned, then you deserve anything that happens next.

Ah the good old tears line.

Nope because it is a frigate that only a new player will use.
It just means there will be less on the market for those newer players.

Frigates make almost zero profit.
Basically CCP is killing the ship before it even comes out, that was my point .

Like cargo scanning blockade runner is difficult in any way.

Uhm, no, you're making a mountain out of a molehill. Someone will buy a ****-ton of BPOs, put them in a cov-ops, successfully run the Orvolle pipe (or whatever their chosen route out of OR/Syndicate), and seed the market in Jita within a day. If you want one at cost, go risk that yourself, it's not exactly hard if you stay calm and have some bookmarks.


Playing the "second-class citizen" card, eh? Barge buff proves you right, miners are too stupid to think for themselves (no troll to non-whining miners).

Like cargo scanning blockade runner is difficult in any way.

oh man, here come 5 pages of people telling you why you're wrong while you make more things up

You do realize that using cloaking device is kinda difficult when you get targeted by that instalock Loki?

The bounty is paid to the character with the final blow, except when Concord has final blow or for self-destruct, in which case the bounty goes to highest damage dealer

A Limited engagement is created when a global target is attacked by someone who cannot be legally attacked back.

Players can now elect to "safe log off" from the Esc menu or ship context menu; this can only be attempted while their ship is essentially inactive, and will remove their ship from space after thirty seconds. Logging off safely in this manner does not close the client and can be aborted at any time

Does it matter? Just close your eyes and pick, then say it will kill Eve.

You do realize that using cloaking device is kinda difficult when you get targeted by that instalock Loki?

so your chain of thought is something like:

"it is possible to fit a loki to instantly lock a blockade runner, therefore people will suicide half-billion isk lokis to tackle blockade runners on gates and every hauler ganker has an instalocking loki alt"

YOU'LL NEVER CLOTHE ME ALIVE, COPPERS!!!

What is an 'unsafe' logoff then? Another mechanic that isn't clear.

But the real question is what we should all patch-speculate on!?

I was thinking more getting to 4C-B7X or NM-OEA and back but I think it's impossible.

Do we have any idea of how big this patch/update is going to be, download wise?

(Am on a crappy 3G modem with a 7GB/month cap - anything over 300MB is usually a problem keeping it stable - (cursing the launcher and downloads for not being able to pick up again if disconnected :( ).

Of course - if anyone would like to mirror the download at gamershell (UK) (when available) - (fastest place I can download from) - then it'd be much appreciated :D

If it's too big and I can't get a decent mirror - I'll have to get my friend to download it for me - but then I won't be able to play for a few days until he can get it to me :(