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Surfin's PlunderBunny The Python Cartel. 3838	Posted - 2012.12.02 22:17:00 - [1] - Quote Start accepting it or they'll just marry your girlfriend! "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Bane Necran Appono Astos 874	Posted - 2012.12.02 22:25:00 - [2] - Quote A motherfucking kish. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham
Alara IonStorm 3654	Posted - 2012.12.03 05:09:00 - [3] - Quote The rare slam dunk argument.
Graygor 1kB Realty 1kB Galactic 2631	Posted - 2012.12.03 07:06:00 - [4] - Quote This argument is not only hilarious, but also genius and it might just work.
Miss Piggy Piggy Love Shack 6	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:19:00 - [5] - Quote 2 strikes and i am out if I give a genuine reply.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 1041	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:31:00 - [6] - Quote I've noticed a remarkable increase in straight University male students to specifically request gay roommates because they won't steal your girlfriend! RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde
Miss Piggy Piggy Love Shack 6	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:53:00 - [7] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: I've noticed a remarkable increase in straight University male students to specifically request gay roommates because they won't steal your girlfriend! I was setup M'lud.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 1042	Posted - 2012.12.03 16:56:00 - [8] - Quote Miss Piggy wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: I've noticed a remarkable increase in straight University male students to specifically request gay roommates because they won't steal your girlfriend! I was setup M'lud. Irrelevant to thread. ...and old news. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde
AlleyKat The Unwanted. 406	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:10:00 - [9] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: The rare slam dunk argument. bullseye GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGÇªindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
Jonah Gravenstein Holistic Materials Research Council 3956	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:13:00 - [10] - Quote That is genius, I just don't get all the opposition to gay marriage, if people love each other and are willing to make that commitment then let them. My brother married his long time boyfriend not so long ago, he was really quite worried about what my fathers attitude would be as he can be quite old fashioned in his views, he was shocked when my father offered to be his best man at the wedding with the comment, if you're happy then I'm happy for you. Always bet on stupid, CCP can't patch stupid. The measure of success in Eve is not monetary worth, it's how effectively you can enforce your will on others.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 1042	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:16:00 - [11] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: That is genius, I just don't get all the opposition to gay marriage, if people love each other and are willing to make that commitment then let them. My brother married his long time boyfriend not so long ago, he was really quite worried about what my fathers attitude would be as he can be quite old fashioned in his views, he was shocked when my father offered to be his best man at the wedding with the comment, if you're happy then I'm happy for you. Religions keep perpetuating hate, as they always have. Esp here in America. The rhetoric is so vitriolic it's not even arguments, just hate filled pronouncements and semantic distortions. Ultimately, they are just afraid of themselves and 'what they might do'. It's their way of protecting themselves from 'temptation' as the hardcore Muslin beliefs put the onus on women to protect the men from 'temptation'. It's a sign of cultural infantilism tbh. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 3064	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:25:00 - [12] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: That is genius, I just don't get all the opposition to gay marriage, if people love each other and are willing to make that commitment then let them. My brother married his long time boyfriend not so long ago, he was really quite worried about what my fathers attitude would be as he can be quite old fashioned in his views, he was shocked when my father offered to be his best man at the wedding with the comment, if you're happy then I'm happy for you. Religions keep perpetuating hate, as they always have. Esp here in America. The rhetoric is so vitriolic it's not even arguments, just hate filled pronouncements and semantic distortions. Ultimately, they are just afraid of themselves and 'what they might do'. It's their way of protecting themselves from 'temptation' as the hardcore Muslin beliefs put the onus on women to protect the men from 'temptation'. It's a sign of cultural infantilism tbh. So you guys couldn't keep this thread non-political or non-religious even for a single page
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 1043	Posted - 2012.12.03 17:28:00 - [13] - Quote That's the very FAULT of politicians and religions for making it their issue. Now and forever bound together............ RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde
Noriko Satomi Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2012.12.03 18:19:00 - [14] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: That's the very FAULT of politicians and religions for making it their issue. Now and forever bound together............ It would be a bad thing for the state to dictate to religions what the definition of marriage is. This is not an argument over who can have what relationship, no matter how much the proponents of these new "rights" claim it is. It is an argument over how far the government can go in overseeing the practice of religion. Or do you think that the philosophy of separation of church and state is only valid when discussing religion's influence on government? Civil unions for all. BTW: This is a philosophical post, not a political one.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 1047	Posted - 2012.12.03 18:28:00 - [15] - Quote Noriko Satomi wrote: It would be a bad thing for the state to dictate to religions what the definition of marriage is. Civil unions for all. It is a bad thing for religions to dictate to the state what marriage is, as they most definitely do. (Fixed that for you). Civil Unions do not carry anywhere the legal weight as marriage under American Laws. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde
Noriko Satomi Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2012.12.03 19:13:00 - [16] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Noriko Satomi wrote: It would be a bad thing for the state to dictate to religions what the definition of marriage is. Civil unions for all. It is a bad thing for religions to dictate to the state what marriage is, as they most definitely do. (Fixed that for you). Civil Unions do not carry anywhere the legal weight as marriage under American Laws. By saying civil unions for all, I was implying we ought to repair that. Most Western governments borrow the notion of marriage from Judeo-Christian definitions. By repairing civil unions and using them as a replacement you fix those deficiencies. Unless the sound and fury isn't really about common law property division, hospital visitation, power of attorney, tax consideration... etc. If it's instead about demanding that religions change their doctrine to recognize the relationship as marriage, up to and including the performing of ceremonies, through legal means, then that is something everyone should be against. That is religion defined by government, and that's bad. A structure that can force things one way can force them a different way. Better to not create such a structure.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1899	Posted - 2012.12.03 19:33:00 - [17] - Quote The real argument that is avoided by both sides because they are too stupid and emotional is this: the whole thing started over benefits to state employees that depended on marital status. In the US, if you work for a state or the government, you get one heck of a benefits package for medical that far outweighs those of the private sector. If you work in the private sector (also known as "the producers") you will pay big $$ for medical benefits for spouses and family. If you work in the public sector (also known as "tax feeders") you can be single and get benefits and pay nothing, or you can get married and have kids and...... still pay nothing. So of course if you cannot marry your partner, well, seems unfair, don't it? Some people thought so, and so wanted the laws (more like rules) changed so the people playing on the other team and get married and the partners of the tax feeders can also feed at the trough. Well, it's OPM (other people's money), you see. If you don't pay your taxes, you get letters. Ignore those letters, and people show up. Bar the door, and more people show up, with guns. Resist them, and they use those guns on you. So basically, it's robbery. Courts, cases, lawsuits, will result because people generally don't feel like there's any good outcome to shooting cops and tax collectors. So, here come the well-funded bible-thumpers to make it all about morality. Here come the well-funded monkey wrenchers to make it all about political correctness and tolerance. But lo and behold, that whole system of tax feeders living high on the hog for menial work while real producers have to suffer is not addressed. The system of "taking money from person A and giving it to person B" is not in question. Like it's natural, like blue skies and green grass. No question there. This is why both sides of the issue are well funded. And if the real argument had been addressed, it would never have been religious nor would it have been political. Religion and politics working as intended.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 1054	Posted - 2012.12.03 19:37:00 - [18] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: the whole thing started over benefits to state employees that depended on marital status. In the US, if you work for a state or the government, you get one heck of a benefits package for medical that far outweighs those of the private sector. Actually, it has a LOT more to do with even having the right to visit one's partner while in the hospital. And do not argue with me on this point. I'm 47 and survived the worst days of the AIDS Crisis, and this was THE issue. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde
jason hill The Riot Formation Unclaimed. 105	Posted - 2012.12.03 19:38:00 - [19] - Quote this one`s just as good I better tell the wife
Borascus Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance 130	Posted - 2012.12.03 20:13:00 - [20] - Quote There is a dictator joke in there somewhere....
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1900	Posted - 2012.12.03 20:31:00 - [21] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: the whole thing started over benefits to state employees that depended on marital status. In the US, if you work for a state or the government, you get one heck of a benefits package for medical that far outweighs those of the private sector. Actually, it has a LOT more to do with even having the right to visit one's partner while in the hospital. And do not argue with me on this point. I'm 47 and survived the worst days of the AIDS Crisis, and this was THE issue. The millions of heterosexuals of many backgrounds for many years had to contend with this "rule" (yet to actually see a law) and nothing changed for a very long time. Since it's the heteros, the source of all evil and having all the power in the world (so it's said) such that anybody not hetero needs special help, could not get past "the rule", I doubt the whole marriage issue was born from it because homosexuals started having issues sporadically since the closet's been more open in the last 60 years. It's always about money. Remember that. Hospital visits don't involve money. Medical and health benefits do. Governments, like EvE players, also ask "Profit?"
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 1056	Posted - 2012.12.03 20:52:00 - [22] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: the whole thing started over benefits to state employees that depended on marital status. In the US, if you work for a state or the government, you get one heck of a benefits package for medical that far outweighs those of the private sector. Actually, it has a LOT more to do with even having the right to visit one's partner while in the hospital. And do not argue with me on this point. I'm 47 and survived the worst days of the AIDS Crisis, and this was THE issue. The millions of heterosexuals of many backgrounds for many years had to contend with this "rule" (yet to actually see a law) and nothing changed for a very long time. Since it's the heteros, the source of all evil and having all the power in the world (so it's said) such that anybody not hetero needs special help, could not get past "the rule", I doubt the whole marriage issue was born from it because homosexuals started having issues sporadically since the closet's been more open in the last 60 years. It's always about money. Remember that. Hospital visits don't involve money. Medical and health benefits do. Governments, like EvE players, also ask "Profit?" You are so sadly misinformed about it all. But feel free to perpetuate lies and nonsense. Especially your STUPID statement about 'heterosexuals'. You expect to be taken seriously ? Ain't gonna happen. And you essentially just pooh-pooh'd the deaths of millions. No thanks for doing everything possible here to 'non-sensify' something rather important. I'm just gonna stay shut up now as it's useless to say anything about this here. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde
Surfin's PlunderBunny The Python Cartel. 3918	Posted - 2012.12.03 21:32:00 - [23] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: the whole thing started over benefits to state employees that depended on marital status. In the US, if you work for a state or the government, you get one heck of a benefits package for medical that far outweighs those of the private sector. Actually, it has a LOT more to do with even having the right to visit one's partner while in the hospital. And do not argue with me on this point. I'm 47 and survived the worst days of the AIDS Crisis, and this was THE issue. The millions of heterosexuals of many backgrounds for many years had to contend with this "rule" (yet to actually see a law) and nothing changed for a very long time. Since it's the heteros, the source of all evil and having all the power in the world (so it's said) such that anybody not hetero needs special help, could not get past "the rule", I doubt the whole marriage issue was born from it because homosexuals started having issues sporadically since the closet's been more open in the last 60 years. It's always about money. Remember that. Hospital visits don't involve money. Medical and health benefits do. Governments, like EvE players, also ask "Profit?" You are so sadly misinformed about it all. But feel free to perpetuate lies and nonsense. Especially your STUPID statement about 'heterosexuals'. You expect to be taken seriously ? Ain't gonna happen. And you essentially just pooh-pooh'd the deaths of millions. No thanks for doing everything possible here to 'non-sensify' something rather important. I'm just gonna stay shut up now as it's useless to say anything about this here. Meh, millions of people died yesterday, millions of people will die today, and millions of people will die tomorrow "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Galactic 1056	Posted - 2012.12.03 21:40:00 - [24] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: the whole thing started over benefits to state employees that depended on marital status. In the US, if you work for a state or the government, you get one heck of a benefits package for medical that far outweighs those of the private sector. Actually, it has a LOT more to do with even having the right to visit one's partner while in the hospital. And do not argue with me on this point. I'm 47 and survived the worst days of the AIDS Crisis, and this was THE issue. The millions of heterosexuals of many backgrounds for many years had to contend with this "rule" (yet to actually see a law) and nothing changed for a very long time. Since it's the heteros, the source of all evil and having all the power in the world (so it's said) such that anybody not hetero needs special help, could not get past "the rule", I doubt the whole marriage issue was born from it because homosexuals started having issues sporadically since the closet's been more open in the last 60 years. It's always about money. Remember that. Hospital visits don't involve money. Medical and health benefits do. Governments, like EvE players, also ask "Profit?" You are so sadly misinformed about it all. But feel free to perpetuate lies and nonsense. Especially your STUPID statement about 'heterosexuals'. You expect to be taken seriously ? Ain't gonna happen. And you essentially just pooh-pooh'd the deaths of millions. No thanks for doing everything possible here to 'non-sensify' something rather important. I'm just gonna stay shut up now as it's useless to say anything about this here. Meh, millions of people died yesterday, millions of people will die today, and millions of people will die tomorrow But how many do you actually know ? Of the hundreds of friends I made in Houston when I 'came out' at 18 in 1983, I'm THE ONLY ONE left. I think it's past time for this conversation to stop. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde

ISD Cura Ursus ISD Community Communications Liaisons 28	Posted - 2012.12.03 21:57:00 - [25] - Quote While it started out OK, it devolved into a religious and political discussion... "3. Discussions about politics and religion not allowed, there are other websites with forums for these topics." from the OOPE rules ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department


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