| Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Teki Awong
Galactic Mining Coalition
0
   |
Posted - 2012.12.04 03:00:00 -
[1] - Quote
yesterday lvl.4 missions were doable solo - this afternoon... something changed and now me and a buddy of mine can't seem to go through them like I was able to just yesterday... its a bit too much of a buffer if you ask me... If this is what I will have to look forward to just to get a jump clone I'm gonna be really dissapointed. we were there for almost an hour with just 3 of five expected waves of baddies... anyone else having the same issue? |
goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
82
|
Posted - 2012.12.04 03:56:00 -
[2] - Quote
Just did a mission blitz run with a friend. completed 12 lvl4 missions in a little over 1-1/2 hours. took a few bio, drink, and chat breaks but didn't notice the missions being harder.
Had a noctis following us that wasn't able to keep up so I would say your problem could be local. You wouldn't happen to be in an incursion area?
Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..) |
Teki Awong
Galactic Mining Coalition
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.04 04:06:00 -
[3] - Quote
running through another set right now.... I'm doing just fine by myself... I was wondering if the difficulty is added if you fleet prior to adding a mission just for the sake it of as I'm not running into any problems going solo atm... probably just a glitch perhaps |
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
204
|
Posted - 2012.12.04 05:44:00 -
[4] - Quote
Teki Awong wrote:running through another set right now.... I'm doing just fine by myself... I was wondering if the difficulty is added if you fleet prior to adding a mission just for the sake it of as I'm not running into any problems going solo atm... probably just a glitch perhaps
Missions don't change if you fleet. May have just been a bad day at the office.
"Music is a mysterious thing. Sometimes itn++ makes people remember things they do not expect. Many thoughts, feelings, memories... things almost forgotten... Regardless of whether the listener desires to remember or not." - Citan Uzuki, Xenogears |
Nicolai Xperte
No Fracks Givin Inc
6
|
Posted - 2012.12.04 06:27:00 -
[5] - Quote
Depending on what the mission is sometimes the spawns can change for example instead of Sansha Overlord it will spawn a Tyrant instead (which deals more dmg, Blockade does this you may get Faction Spawn as well). Also was there a difference in tank, speed, transversal, and etc all those things are factors.
I wish CCP would put a scaling option for combat ships like if you have a friend or 2 doing them with you that makes the ships bounty worth more, difficulty a little bit harder, better loot/salvage (not game breaking better just slightly). There would be cap limit (number of pilots) on the scaling of course.
I don't always bring out my Absolution.
But when I do it makes the Blue's rage, lol. |
TheSkeptic
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
70
|
Posted - 2012.12.04 08:27:00 -
[6] - Quote
Different missions by the same agent can sometimes have different rat types... perhaps you're just not using the right ammo?
Lord Zim:
I do the following in hisec, because it's less effort vs reward than doing the same in nullsec:
- Ratting
|
GotHerbs
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.04 13:35:00 -
[7] - Quote
I just did Lvl 4 Vengeance (vs Sanshas) and got full room agro right at the start in the first room without moving or shooting (no drones out either), Paladin made it out in low armor luckily. You used to get auto agro from just 1 or 2 of the 5 groups in this room before the patch, its now only doable solo with multiple warp outs and is very slow and painful due to all the elite TD rats agroing at the start. |
shealia
Possiumaboul
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.04 14:22:00 -
[8] - Quote
a friend of mine has had a lot of dificulties to farm missions this day.
He Nearly losing his BS several times because of multiple aggro.
For example, entry mission, aggro the whole pocket without doing anything. It is now almost impossible to absorb the dps of the entiere pockets.
Warp in.... multiple aggro.... web.... scramble..... too much dps..... dead.
In short, it is surprising, warp in and warp out every 30 seconds it's not very fun?
It's not like that for all the missions, but beware if you do not want to lose your ship ....
Didn't try myself, i will try in few hours but i'm afraid to lost my machariel in a silly L4 mission 
Yeap, in fleet seems to be oki but when i prefer play in solo..... what i have to do? |
Scally Dog
Swashbuckling Baboons
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 01:39:00 -
[9] - Quote
I'm having problems with the larger L4 mission tonight where I'm getting full aggro like Gotherb is upon warp in.
It's not a problem on most missions but i will give you a couple of examples where I struggled badly.
Assualt L4 against Serpentis - I counted 8 damps in the first pocket which put my max locking range down to 11km, got scrammed, almost lost it and not very good for a ship that throws out 1100 DPS.
Storyline - Shipyard theft, Level 4 -- Instant full aggro, my guess about 1500DPS incoming
It seems a bit OTT for solo
|
Nicolai Xperte
No Fracks Givin Inc
6
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 05:21:00 -
[10] - Quote
I've encountered a few these myself post patch but I usually pull full room aggro on Pirate Invasion anyways just to keep drones alive (pre-patch). Seems post patch that they have messed up the script on the missions when adding in the new aggro tables and had lost the triggers somewhere. Hopefully they'll fix it soon.
I don't always bring out my Absolution.
But when I do it makes the Blue's rage, lol. |
|
|
Don Alfredo
Omamori Himari
Pandora Hearts
4
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 07:29:00 -
[11] - Quote
I almost got my ass handed to me in Worlds Collide, a mission I otherwise thought of to be easy. For some reason in the first pocket the frigates only scrammed for one cycle, otherwise my machariel would be history.
I guess the best thing to do is to stay clear of missions which have enemy groups that *should* aggro individually because they just seem to ignore this at the moment. |
Lugalzagezi666
71
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 07:59:00 -
[12] - Quote
I experienced the same thing with npc aggresion in worlds collide. Immediately after warping my vargur into 3rd pocket I got the full aggro (even only usual group of 2bs + 3 hacs was close to me).
It was pretty fun, I had to overheat my guns, hardeners and shield booster to survive and Im sure my mach/nightmare/pally wouldnt survive in that situation (there were around 8 frigs and half of them were pointing me). I guess its over with blitzing wc with small pithi b tengu too.
But there is different thing that actually worries me - anyone tried sansha blockade in turret ship after the patch? Not very enjoyable experience.
|
Nicolai Xperte
No Fracks Givin Inc
6
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 08:32:00 -
[13] - Quote
Lugalzagezi666 wrote:I experienced the same thing with npc aggresion in worlds collide. Immediately after warping my vargur into 3rd pocket I got the full aggro (even only usual group of 2bs + 3 hacs was close to me). It was pretty fun, I had to overheat my guns, hardeners and shield booster to survive and Im sure my mach/nightmare/pally wouldnt survive in that situation (there were around 8 frigs and half of them were pointing me). I guess its over with blitzing wc with small pithi b tengu too. But there is different thing that actually worries me - anyone tried sansha blockade in turret ship after the patch? Not very enjoyable experience.
blockade and pirate invasion not looking forward to it lol.
I don't always bring out my Absolution.
But when I do it makes the Blue's rage, lol. |
Shawnee
Vanda Mining
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 11:29:00 -
[14] - Quote
I agree that the Lv4 missions have got significantly harder. Doing a Rogue Drone missions yesterday, three new waves of drones warped in almost immediatly. Full agro, warp scrambled, 30 seconds later and my previously untouchable Faction BS went POP. Gutted and more than a little surprised. |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
656
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 12:05:00 -
[15] - Quote
Lugalzagezi666 wrote:But there is different thing that actually worries me - anyone tried sansha blockade in turret ship after the patch? Not very enjoyable experience.
It's now as annoying as Serpentis Blockade.
You just have to fast lock and volley the crap out of things before they e-war the hell out of you.
Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Lugalzagezi666
71
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 12:58:00 -
[16] - Quote
Caellach Marellus wrote:Lugalzagezi666 wrote:But there is different thing that actually worries me - anyone tried sansha blockade in turret ship after the patch? Not very enjoyable experience. It's now as annoying as Serpentis Blockade. You just have to fast lock and volley the crap out of things before they e-war the hell out of you.
Serpentis - approach them and you can lock and kill them.
Sanshas - approach them and you wont hit because of low tracking.
But I wish you best luck "volleying the crap out of them" before spawn of elite cruisers cuts your range from 48+52k to 5+5.5k. |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
656
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 13:06:00 -
[17] - Quote
Lugalzagezi666 wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:Lugalzagezi666 wrote:But there is different thing that actually worries me - anyone tried sansha blockade in turret ship after the patch? Not very enjoyable experience. It's now as annoying as Serpentis Blockade. You just have to fast lock and volley the crap out of things before they e-war the hell out of you. Serpentis - approach them and you can lock and kill them. Sanshas - approach them and you wont hit because of low tracking. But I wish you best luck "volleying the crap out of them" before spawn of elite cruisers cuts your range from 48+52k to 5+5.5k.
Sounds like you're having a DPS issue, you should easily get 1-2 rounds of fire off before they lock and apply e-war. If not look at your skills, or even consider using a SeBo to increase your lock time. Try Tachyons instead of Pulses too.
Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Lugalzagezi666
71
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 13:10:00 -
[18] - Quote
Yes, Im for sure having dps issues with my 1100dps nightmare. Tbh it always felt little bit underwhelming. |
Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
656
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 13:17:00 -
[19] - Quote
Lugalzagezi666 wrote:Yes, Im for sure having dps issues with my 1100dps nightmare. Tbh it always felt little bit underwhelming.
You aren't applying damage fast enough to pop them before they've hit you with e-war. I should have just said Damage issue not DPS. Though technically it's DPS within a certain timeframe. Which is the time you have to lock and kill them before they lock and e-war you.
These missions aren't unbeatable, you just need to juggle the fit around. This patch has put a hit on both afk dronemissioners and people who expect one fit to work for everything. I struggle to see the negative here.
Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Lugalzagezi666
71
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 13:58:00 -
[20] - Quote
Yeah, Im absolutely going to fit sensorboosters to get 1 volley on a group of 6 elite cruisers (each needs at least 2 volleys to destroy) before I get tded to 5+5k by them. Pro advice. 
Also where did I say any missions are unbeatable? |
|
|
Wowbagg0r
House Of The Drunks
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 14:03:00 -
[21] - Quote
To be honest i was shocked at first with a full room aggro.... I almost lost my 3TP Golem on the Vengeance with a full pocket aggro (That with crystal set without omega though). So i thought, ok, I will put max tank that i can, while sacrificing 2TPs, and do mission slowly. So i went to refit the golem leaving just one TP and all the rest mid slots for tank. Result was surprising...
Now even though the tank was shaky at the start, i was able to do first pocket without warping out. What surprised me was the fact that i didn't need those 3TPs anymore!! TP made no difference with Javelin torpedoes on sansha BSs, and 1TP was effectife enough on everythning smaller. So in the end, i think i finished the mission even faster than before. Remember though it requires a Maradeur with expensive fit and at least 5 of the crystal set implants...
Hence my conclusion: it seems, some lvl 4s from now on (if no fix) will require immence tank to do them solo! Meaning you need a maradeur with a respective faction implant set... which to be honest are exacly their purpose of existence.
All in all, now probably it is the first time when i feel that i didn't waste my time and isk on maradeur and crystal implants.
With that being said, i'm somewhat more on the positive opinion about this change if it was intentional and not a mere bug.
P.S. Sorry if my english is a bit wierd to read :) |
Tomerf
Midnight Assasins
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 14:28:00 -
[22] - Quote
Yeah I've got whole room aggro in both worlds collide and the assault. Thankfully my t3 cruiser was able to speed tank the whole room but if I was flying a BS I'd likely be toast. |
Scally Dog
Swashbuckling Baboons
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 16:04:00 -
[23] - Quote
I think the biggest problem is that we are going to see a lot of expensive ships getting popped over this next few days. Pilots who are used to the big missions are going to get themselves into an unexpected tangle and realise they can't get out in time.
I didn't read anything about full aggro with the new AI, I actually though I had read that the spawn, aggression behaviour will remain the same with retribution. So, lets just hope this is just a side effect that will be sorted out. |
Kristopher Rocancourt
Quality Assurance
9
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 16:21:00 -
[24] - Quote
Harder level 4's and losing your blingy faction modded ships is Karma's way of paying back all of the carebears that cried so hard CCP had to implement Crime[bear]Watch.
Your tears are juicy and delicious.
|
Eufloria Shaultry
S-Words And Snakes
Shadow of Fate
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 18:10:00 -
[25] - Quote
I like how the NPCs behave now. Makes you to think your fit through, not just take random one from battleclinic. I have never used webs or jammers on missions. Now i do, it helps a lot, and it is awesome in general. |
Wolfman SS
Great Dane Enterprises
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 21:13:00 -
[26] - Quote
Shawnee wrote:I agree that the Lv4 missions have got significantly harder. Doing a Rogue Drone missions yesterday, three new waves of drones warped in almost immediatly. Full agro, warp scrambled, 30 seconds later and my previously untouchable Faction BS went POP. Gutted and more than a little surprised.
Oh man, that sucks.
CCP really screwed up good this time! |
Scally Dog
Swashbuckling Baboons
0
|
Posted - 2012.12.05 22:57:00 -
[27] - Quote
Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:Harder level 4's and losing your blingy faction modded ships is Karma's way of paying back all of the carebears that cried so hard CCP had to implement Crime[bear]Watch.
Your tears are juicy and delicious.
It doesn't effect just carebears but alot of people who PVP do missions to fund it? no? |
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |