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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:32:00 -
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Here's an idea, CCP:
Since the market is considered the biggest battlefield in EvE, why not make it so that people/companies/alliances can boycott each other? An on/off button linked to standings or whatever that makes it so that people on your poop list can't buy or sell anything with you.
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Sol Kouvo
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:33:00 -
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Sounds like a good idea in theory but people will just figure out a way to use it to bully and harass other players, this is EVE after all. |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:33:00 -
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Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
Sin City Coalition
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:34:00 -
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That is actually a good idea :-/ |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:38:00 -
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3 Account Slots and Numerous alts says this idea will not accomplish much at all.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:41:00 -
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I was thinking you could expand it like so: Have a separate "Economic Standings" option for contacts, not directly linked to the regular standings and let people customize them like docking fees and such.
For instance, you could assign values such as...
Dark Blue +10: 25% off on sales.
Blue +5: 10% off on sales.
Neutral: Listed price.
Orange -5: +50% markup on sales.
Red: Complete boycott, not for sale at any price.
Players/corps could then change those values to whatever they see fit, and apply them to things like POS docking fees, customs stations export taxes, etc. That way you don't end up accidentally buying or selling your stuff with people you hate.
Of course, for the truly neutral merchant that would only mean more profits for themselves, since they wouldn't be using the system in the first place. But FW people and the like could stick to their guns on the marketplace as well as in the battlefield.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:43:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:3 Account Slots and Numerous alts says this idea will not accomplish much at all.
Not everyone in EvE is that crazy dedicated.
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
126
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Posted - 2012.12.04 19:48:00 -
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Sol Kouvo wrote:Sounds like a good idea in theory but people will just figure out a way to use it to bully and harass other players, this is EVE after all.
True, but since when has that ever stopped CCP from doing anything? For a lot of people, jacking each other is the whole point of EvE.
Consider this: You, as a Caldari, put a bunch of hybrid ammo up on the market. Five minutes later it's all bought up by a Gallente FW guy. He's going to use the ammo that you made to shoot at your people. How does that make you feel?
That's just one example.
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Commander Ted
Dookie on the flowah
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:25:00 -
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I don't sell with my main and my alt is in an NPC corp. Your plan is ruined.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.12.04 20:42:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:3 Account Slots and Numerous alts says this idea will not accomplish much at all. Not everyone in EvE is that crazy dedicated.
To have a second character alt on the same account to buy things for you...
It is like EVE 101.
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Solutio Letum
Lost Dawn Chaos
Stealth Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:38:00 -
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everyone has an alt, if you tell me you dont, you are even more probable to have an alt, and if you dont, then you wont be buying anything special and will find it somewhere else... at a better price probably |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:43:00 -
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When CCP starts letting us train multiple toons on a single account, then yeah it would actually be worth it. But until then...
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Crimeo Khamsi
AirHogs
Zulu People
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:47:00 -
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It doesn't matter if people have alts. Boycotting the guy still makes it so he has to annoyingly log off, log back on, buy stuff, set up a contract, log off, log back on, etc.
It would be worth it just to harrass people you don't like by forcing them to go through all that trouble.
It would be even more effective harrassment if a boycott applied to the entire account, not just one character. Why not? It's not like it would let you figure out who the person's alts are. By definition a boycott is NOT trading with people, so there won't be any transactions to give you information about which characters you have actually boycotted. I.e., your list of boycotted people would only include the character you actually boycotted, and their other account characters would be "secretly" boycotted, without you seeing who they are, but still unable to trade with you. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.12.04 21:57:00 -
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Crimeo Khamsi wrote:It doesn't matter if people have alts. Boycotting the guy still makes it so he has to annoyingly log off, log back on, buy stuff, set up a contract, log off, log back on, etc.
It would be worth it just to harrass people you don't like by forcing them to go through all that trouble.
It would be even more effective harrassment if a boycott applied to the entire account, not just one character. Why not? It's not like it would let you figure out who the person's alts are. By definition a boycott is NOT trading with people, so there won't be any transactions to give you information about which characters you have actually boycotted. I.e., your list of boycotted people would only include the character you actually boycotted, and their other account characters would be "secretly" boycotted, without you seeing who they are, but still unable to trade with you.
Most people won't have to log off to get around a boycott, as they'd be doing the shopping on thier alt all the time anyway. That's kind of the point of a market alt.
Anyway, why would you want to make less money trading? |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:03:00 -
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Commander Ted wrote:I don't sell with my main and my alt is in an NPC corp. Your plan is ruined.
This basically.
Gankers and pirates need a char with a clean slate to hit hubs 23.5/7.
0.0 types can't hit hubs on the main because of their legit war decs plus what can be monthly just becasue they can privateer decs (been in some places I was good for 1 week a month at least for some loving from them). Dying in jita with a war dec usually a good way to make your life suck with the ass chewings from leadership and the regular corpmates screwing with you afterwards.
Empire mercs same thing usually.
And lets be honest, how many would actually use this. Isk is isk. If the enemy is selling for what will be a say 75mil price break on a bulk order of ferrrogel not many would turn that down. If they don't take the deal, lots of others will.
Which means basically your boycott did nothing except waste time coding and tesiing. this is eve, not US-Cuba with the cigar boycott/embargo. And even that doesn'tt work worth a damn either. I am American but live overseaes. I support communism every couple of months as I have a tobacco shop not even 10 minutes from my house I can buy Cuban cigars as easy as pack of smokes. |
Crimeo Khamsi
AirHogs
Zulu People
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:04:00 -
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Quote:Anyway, why would you want to make less money trading?
Why would you pay people to blow up hulks that you don't profit from? |
Daichi Yamato
Swamp Bucket
Swamp Bucket Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.04 23:42:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:When CCP starts letting us train multiple toons on a single account, then yeah it would actually be worth it. But until then...
ur alts dont need skills to trade.
lol my alts have alts... |
Emma Yobibit
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.05 04:06:00 -
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lols this idea is fail
would take way to long to bug clean for what it would even do, its like bounty system v0.1 for markets management...... |
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.12.05 04:42:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:When CCP starts letting us train multiple toons on a single account, then yeah it would actually be worth it. But until then... ur alts dont need skills to trade. lol my alts have alts...
or if you really want to, you can give the main a week or so off and trade the tax skill some and some contractting and market order boosts quick enough.
Funny thing is it wouldn't be jsut the gankers and dec'ers hiding doing this. If in an alliance/corp and they pulled this crap...well then its +10,000 isk to have my out of alliance alt contract to me.
Its eve...you get shot up, you die, you move on. Next time try harder not to die lol. If I hated say goons enough to see needing this I;d be screwed. Chances are real good a few m3 of their moon goo will be in at least half the ships I buy. |
hired gunman
The Space Traveller's Inn
Solar Citizens
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Posted - 2012.12.05 08:38:00 -
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Soooooo what happens when a red alliance or corp Buys ALL of a single product on the market and resales it. You have just created an economic war. |
J'Poll
Kings of the Underground
Side Effect.
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Posted - 2012.12.05 11:12:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Here's an idea, CCP:
Since the market is considered the biggest battlefield in EvE, why not make it so that people/companies/alliances can boycott each other? An on/off button linked to standings or whatever that makes it so that people on your poop list can't buy or sell anything with you.
Oooh wait, someone blocked me from buying / selling stuff from / to them.
Let's create an alt...Problem solved.
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J'Poll
Kings of the Underground
Side Effect.
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Posted - 2012.12.05 11:14:00 -
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Crimeo Khamsi wrote:It doesn't matter if people have alts. Boycotting the guy still makes it so he has to annoyingly log off, log back on, buy stuff, set up a contract, log off, log back on, etc..
Multiple account....thought of that...
I can just station trade with my alt in Jita that is on another account and be done with it in less then 1 minute.
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