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Derek Quaid
Discreet Bounties
9
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:04:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Derek Quaid wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:
This seems legit.
I thought it might take months to receive such a prestigious endorsement. I'd like to thank the entire CCP team for implementing the tools to develop such a third-party service. Special thanks to you, CCP Soundwave. but IIIIIII wanted to make a corp like this! 
Revenge is a big market in New Eden. There is room for many such services filling many different roles. I only serve a fraction of the total market for anonymous bounties. I do hope to be the best at what I do, though.
CEO, Discreet Bounties
In-game Channel: Discreet Bounties |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
565
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:07:00 -
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Andski wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:If I could place a bounty through the forums I would literally run out of money within a day.
Please do this CCP. We talked about this at the game design morning meeting today. I'm not sure we'll do it, but it's definitely in the back of our heads. Personally, I'd love to have it in :) It's like an actual, meanginful, neg rep button  Anyway, thanks for sharing your story OP, that's exactly what the system was built for. The player should be explicitly told that they received a bounty for their post. The notification should display the post, and the post on the forums should show the bounty placed on that player for that particular post. Consequences for bad posts.
That is definetly a Something Awful Dot Com resident talking.
However I agree. Ideally there should be a bit at the bottom saying:
"User recieved a XXXXXXXXXISK bounty for this post"
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Killtime
The Skunkworks
0
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:07:00 -
[93] - Quote
All's fair and good for the people who want to be spaceship superheroes, but how about those of us who just want to make the universe burn?
That ORE mining frigate is one thing, but it probably won't be long until ALL mining/indy bearboats get warp core strength as a role bonus.
Once that happens, the next step is to give free warp core strength to anyone with a +5 sec status.
Well, here's to hoping that the new aggression mechanics have a few loopholes for us to exploit in the name of SCIENCE! |
Derek Quaid
Discreet Bounties
12
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:10:00 -
[94] - Quote
Killtime wrote:All's fair and good for the people who want to be spaceship superheroes, but how about those of us who just want to make the universe burn?
That ORE mining frigate is one thing, but it probably won't be long until ALL mining/indy bearboats get warp core strength as a role bonus.
Once that happens, the next step is to give free warp core strength to anyone with a +5 sec status.
Well, here's to hoping that the new aggression mechanics have a few loopholes for us to exploit in the name of SCIENCE!
CCP has merely adjusted the valves so tears now flow more evenly from all sources.
CEO, Discreet Bounties
In-game Channel: Discreet Bounties |
Alua Oresson
Demon-War-Lords
Fatal Ascension
156
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:14:00 -
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Killtime wrote:All's fair and good for the people who want to be spaceship superheroes, but how about those of us who just want to make the universe burn?
That ORE mining frigate is one thing, but it probably won't be long until ALL mining/indy bearboats get warp core strength as a role bonus.
Once that happens, the next step is to give free warp core strength to anyone with a +5 sec status.
Well, here's to hoping that the new aggression mechanics have a few loopholes for us to exploit in the name of SCIENCE!
Throw a HIC into your gang. Or you can run a long and short point at once, or even run a +3 strength faction scram.
http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/ |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
5336
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:16:00 -
[96] - Quote
Killtime wrote:All's fair and good for the people who want to be spaceship superheroes, but how about those of us who just want to make the universe burn?
That ORE mining frigate is one thing, but it probably won't be long until ALL mining/indy bearboats get warp core strength as a role bonus.
Once that happens, the next step is to give free warp core strength to anyone with a +5 sec status.
Well, here's to hoping that the new aggression mechanics have a few loopholes for us to exploit in the name of SCIENCE!
Counterpoint: CCP removed the +2 Warp strength bonus of the Skiff.
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Ponder Stuff
Deadly Intent.
0
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:18:00 -
[97] - Quote
Maybe we can get a decent fight now, low sec is really dead and could use some fresh meat trying to get rich quick from the bounty hunting system...... I hope this works because eve is getting really boring on the piracy side of things. |
Ultra DuGarde
Red Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:19:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:See, this is the kind of attitude that we've been trying to encourage all along. Instead of sitting and crying about it fight back, with whatever kind of weapons you can use, and you earn if not respect at least a reputation as a guy not to mess with unless you think you can deal with the consequences.
Stuff like this is what the kill right changes were supposed to encourage and I'm happy it actually seems to be working out as planned.
True enuff but other than learning how to PVP and hoping you get lucky there was no way for people with more money than skills to exact revenge. While there may be exploitable flaws, at least now you don't have to rely on your own personal ability to deliver firepower on your target, a fat wallet and the willingness to use it now serve as a legitimate equalizer |
Borascus
Red Core
Paradigm Shift Alliance
130
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:23:00 -
[99] - Quote
It's a good way to trade off the higher volumes of bounty :P
Ingenious!
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
256
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:27:00 -
[100] - Quote
I love the fact that bears are now parting from their isk and letting it flow to pvpers willingly!
I <3 extra isk for kills. |
Kaivaja
State War Academy
Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:28:00 -
[101] - Quote
What does CCP think about a group of suicide gankers aggroing each others just before they gank some 3rd party victim to collect bounties placed on them by the somebody like the original poster in good faith? If Concord or other NPC's kill your ship and there is any human aggro involved, the human gets the final blow even without firing a shot. Would action like this be "works as intended" or would be more like "exploiting the fundamentals of the bounty system"? |
Ultra DuGarde
Red Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.05 16:33:00 -
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Jude Lloyd wrote:As a pirate living in lowsec, I feel no less safe than ever before. This patch has given me plenty, but no level of security has been taken away. I have been given more opportunities to kill within my home, lowsec. I have been given more opportunities to use more ships in more places. AND this update is going to convince PVP noobs to chase after me for my bounty and then hand me free killmails. So, miner, I'm not really sure what you're so happy about.
I'm still going to gank your Hulk.
Sounds like this is Win-Win--- Remember the Bounty System is not about how it makes YOU Feel, It's about how it makes the person who was wronged feels. You want more PvP well now you are going to get it- He wants to feel like he got some payback and if someone pops you He will get it. Now lets all sing Kum-Bay-Yah and start shooting |
The CandyGirl
Candy's Toy Shop
2
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:02:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:I ganked a hauler carrying over a billion ISK worth of stuff today. He raged at me in a chat, and then put a 500 million bounty on my head. I used an alt and a clever selection of items to inflate the value of my insured ship thousands of percent beyond its actual worth, and then collected that bounty at the cost of maybe a tenth of the profit. Then I mailed the gankee a link to the video that I took of what I described above, so he knew that his money was well spent. He cursed me out, said "**** this game," and logged off. Haven't seen him since.
So that's what a victory in this game feels like!
Post proof or it didnt happen |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5712
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:06:00 -
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The CandyGirl wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I ganked a hauler carrying over a billion ISK worth of stuff today. He raged at me in a chat, and then put a 500 million bounty on my head. I used an alt and a clever selection of items to inflate the value of my insured ship thousands of percent beyond its actual worth, and then collected that bounty at the cost of maybe a tenth of the profit. Then I mailed the gankee a link to the video that I took of what I described above, so he knew that his money was well spent. He cursed me out, said "**** this game," and logged off. Haven't seen him since.
So that's what a victory in this game feels like! Post proof or it didnt happen
It's almost as if he's implying that the OP made his story up rather than claiming that he actually manipulated prices.
~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~
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Alua Oresson
Demon-War-Lords
Fatal Ascension
157
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:08:00 -
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The CandyGirl wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I ganked a hauler carrying over a billion ISK worth of stuff today. He raged at me in a chat, and then put a 500 million bounty on my head. I used an alt and a clever selection of items to inflate the value of my insured ship thousands of percent beyond its actual worth, and then collected that bounty at the cost of maybe a tenth of the profit. Then I mailed the gankee a link to the video that I took of what I described above, so he knew that his money was well spent. He cursed me out, said "**** this game," and logged off. Haven't seen him since.
So that's what a victory in this game feels like! Post proof or it didnt happen
Doesn't look like he/she did.
http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/ |
Amitious Turkey
The Scope
Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:09:00 -
[106] - Quote
This is what I thought Eve would look like as a newbie. Glad to see the dream is finally complete (more or less)!
I like to lick things.
Haunting the forums since 03. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
127
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:17:00 -
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Theresa Lamont wrote:So has begun the age of the bounty hunters. Legions of professional killers will now roam all corners of the galaxy to complete their contracts, and at the same time, satisfy someone else's thirst for vengeance.
The times, they are a-changin'.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2800
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:19:00 -
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The CandyGirl wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I ganked a hauler carrying over a billion ISK worth of stuff today. He raged at me in a chat, and then put a 500 million bounty on my head. I used an alt and a clever selection of items to inflate the value of my insured ship thousands of percent beyond its actual worth, and then collected that bounty at the cost of maybe a tenth of the profit. Then I mailed the gankee a link to the video that I took of what I described above, so he knew that his money was well spent. He cursed me out, said "**** this game," and logged off. Haven't seen him since.
So that's what a victory in this game feels like! Post proof or it didnt happen
Makes me wonder why Destiny Corrupted (supposedly) went to the trouble of creating proof for an act that is now a bannable offense. 
Or, more likely, he's full of crap today.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Rundle's BountyBroker
State War Academy
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:24:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Derek Quaid wrote:For those of you who would like to deliver a little justice with complete impunity to individuals that have wronged you, consider Discreet Bounties anonymous bounty service.
Avoid the hate mail. Avoid retaliatory bounties. Know that your service provider is actively seeking out bounty hunters in hopes of coordinating their efforts against your targets.
Strike like a ghost in the night. Place your bounty with Discreet Bounties. This seems legit.
As legit as my service! With a public name and a lot more to lose if I screw you over! 
TBH, I'm just glad to see this feature! Anon bounties or not!
Do you wish to have retribution while avoiding the consequence of your actions?
Let me place that bounty for you!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2247789-á |
onefineday
Sniggwaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
0
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:29:00 -
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as i pirat i can say no one cares to die from pirat side its our way of life :) we getting same bauntys for killing other people and its non stop battle for us and suicide ganks will be even more phone because a baunty on each of our heads makes so happy and then it will reach a surtin lvl of isk we just gona suiside each other whit neutral alts take your isk and split it 50/50 :D because come on its free isk and we will do it again and again and again :) |
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
16
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:29:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:I ganked a hauler carrying over a billion ISK worth of stuff today. He raged at me in a chat, and then put a 500 million bounty on my head. I used an alt and a clever selection of items to inflate the value of my insured ship thousands of percent beyond its actual worth, and then collected that bounty at the cost of maybe a tenth of the profit. Then I mailed the gankee a link to the video that I took of what I described above, so he knew that his money was well spent. He cursed me out, said "**** this game," and logged off. Haven't seen him since.
So that's what a victory in this game feels like!
The core of the new bounty system is to pay out only a portion of the bounty at a time, instead of paying the whole pool upon a kill. Here are the pertinent points (with the usual disclaimer that things are subject to change as we continue developing this):
GÇóThe amount paid out from the bounty pool upon a kill is now based on the ISK loss inflicted on the target. This is similar to the system used in FW for calculating LP payout, i.e. finding a Total Loss value based on the value of items lost (plus some insurance calculation finagling). WeGÇÖre making this system a bit more robust and harder to manipulate, but weGÇÖre not telling you how ;)
GÇóThe bounty payout is based on a percentage of the Total Loss, so the bounty received will always be considerably less than the actual Total Loss value. The base number weGÇÖre going for right now is 20%. This means that if you blow something up worth 100 million, then 20 million is paid out in bounty (or whatever is left in the bounty pool if less than 20 million).
GÇóThis also means that the bounty pool of a player will be paid out over time, so a player with a high bounty can be killed numerous times before the pool depletes.
GÇóCurrently, bounties are only claimed on podding. We want to extend this to ship destruction as well. This means that if you destroy someoneGÇÖs ship and then pod him, you get bounty twice (the podding bounty is then based on the value of any implants the target has).
GÇóBounties are public, same as now. This means anyone can claim a bounty. Claiming a bounty is based on Final Blow. If youGÇÖre in a fleet and get bounty, the bounty is shared between the fleet members.
GÇóBounties can now be placed from anywhere in the game, not just the Bounty Office in stations. Bounties on the same character go into a joint pool, same as now. The minimum ISK amount for placing a bounty is increased from 5k to 100k. Also, bounties can now be placed on anyone, weGÇÖre removing the -1 security standing requirement currently in the bounty system.
GÇóYou can track bounties youGÇÖve placed on other players, seeing how much has been paid out. YouGÇÖre also notified if a player youGÇÖve placed a bounty on is killed.
GÇóBounty pools are eliminated and a portion returned to those that contributed to the pool if the target has been inactive (unsubscribed) for a long time.
GÇóWeGÇÖll redo the Most Wanted list to make it cooler and more useful. The characters with the top bounties on them will be ranked, with the rank giving a bonus to the payout percentage for killing them. This means high-rank characters are potentially juicier targets.
GÇóWe will add a Bounty Hunter rank list as well. Characters gain rank points on this list for scoring big bounties and hitting characters high on the Most Wanted list. For the time being the Bounty Hunter rank list will be purely for epeen purposes.
GÇóWeGÇÖre aiming to continue to use the Billboards and CQs to show Most Wanted status.
GÇóBounties have no effect on who can be attacked legally where.
GÇóImportant note: Existing bounties in the old (current) bounty system will be removed when the new system rolls out in December. This means that bounties that have not been claimed by that time will be gone for good.
There I highlighted it for you... others have already called you out for making stuff up and putting your KM (and video) where your mouth is. Still... nice story... even when it is as made-up as the Easter-Jovian. |
onefineday
Sniggwaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
0
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:35:00 -
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dude its really easy to inflate your cargo value dont you remembeer what the goon swarm did not so long ago whit market trading then a faction stuff came to eve they made trilions of isk by inflating market and buying and rebuing items its really esay manipulation and every one can claim that baunty because baunty pay out is based on a valiu of the ship and its cargo :)
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2800
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:41:00 -
[113] - Quote
onefineday wrote:dude its really easy to inflate your cargo value dont you remembeer what the goon swarm did not so long ago whit market trading then a faction stuff came to eve they made trilions of isk by inflating market and buying and rebuing items its really esay manipulation and every one can claim that baunty because baunty pay out is based on a valiu of the ship and its cargo :)
Except of course that CCP has put measures in place to track that activity and ban those responsible.
Care to try again?
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
El Geo
BLOOM.
Verge of Collapse
65
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:45:00 -
[114] - Quote
onefineday wrote:dude its really easy to inflate your cargo value dont you remembeer what the goon swarm did not so long ago whit market trading then a faction stuff came to eve they made trilions of isk by inflating market and buying and rebuing items its really esay manipulation and every one can claim that baunty because baunty pay out is based on a valiu of the ship and its cargo :)
yeah but the problem with goons is they have a habit of exposing any "exploits" they do so that it becomes impossable for anyone else to follow, not that 101 million idiots wont say they've been doing it for the past year anyway
path-+find-+er (pthfndr, p+ñth-)n. 1. One that discovers a new course or way, especially through or into unexplored regions.
http://www.youtube.com/user/EvEPathfinders/videos?view=0 |
Kiran
Knights of Azrael
Initiative Associates
23
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:51:00 -
[115] - Quote
For the OP you get a like from me.
This new patch has seen the rise of the bounty hunters as CCP first envisioned them I think. To all who take up these kill contracts good luck to you. its high time they should truely pay for their crimes. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2801
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Posted - 2012.12.05 17:57:00 -
[116] - Quote
Kiran wrote:For the OP you get a like from me.
This new patch has seen the rise of the bounty hunters as CCP first envisioned them I think. To all who take up these kill contracts good luck to you. its high time they should truely pay for their crimes.
While at the same time making sure that game balance is preserved so that the "innocent" can be targeted as well.
All in all, extremely well balanced... with only a few possible minor tweaks to consider here and there.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Aditu Riraille
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.12.05 18:10:00 -
[117] - Quote
Derek Quaid wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:Derek Quaid wrote:For those of you who would like to deliver a little justice with complete impunity to individuals that have wronged you, consider Discreet Bounties anonymous bounty service.
Avoid the hate mail. Avoid retaliatory bounties. Know that your service provider is actively seeking out bounty hunters in hopes of coordinating their efforts against your targets.
Strike like a ghost in the night. Place your bounty with Discreet Bounties. This seems legit. I thought it might take months to receive such a prestigious endorsement. I'd like to thank the entire CCP team for implementing the tools to develop such a third-party service. Special thanks to you, CCP Soundwave.
Ahhhh... finally things more like the real world- well except for the fact you can never do anything more than inconvenience a Pirate, but... maybe that's enough. Better than having no recourse other than playing THEIR game you aren't any good at anyway.
Wait, what's that sound? It's the collective exhaling of all the industrialists and their network of peeps now that they no longer have the terms of battle dictated by Pirates.
Money talks, s**t walks, even in EVE.
Can't wait to see all this unfold!
AR
We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.
T. S. Eliot
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Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.12.05 18:16:00 -
[118] - Quote
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa wrote: as made-up as the Easter-Jovian.
He's... not real? 
http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages |
Dvesk Sunie
Dark-Rising
4
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Posted - 2012.12.05 18:18:00 -
[119] - Quote
I consider wining EVE when I feel adrenaline while fighting. That's wining. |
Heiopei
ZERO T0LERANCE
RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.12.05 18:23:00 -
[120] - Quote
Tiberius StarGazer wrote:
I didnt make this kill, but it felt like I did and it felt good.
so you tastet pvp and liked it? great!
you should try doing it yourself. it feels even better :-) |
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