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Landrae Sacred Templars Unclaimed. 390	Posted - 2012.12.05 06:08:00 - [1] - Quote So I picked up some salvage drones and the skill book for my noctis and after using the to clean angel forsaken hubs I noticed a couple things. 1. You cant bind the salvage command to a key like when you tell drones to attack. 2. Salvage drones as I understand as supposed to be like mining drones and just salvage your wrecks until their is nothing left within range to salvage, yet they salvage one target then wait for me to click to tell them next one to get. Now is this a bug or working as intended? Welcome to Eve Online
Tarn Kugisa Infinite Covenant Tribal Band 182	Posted - 2012.12.05 06:10:00 - [2] - Quote I noticed the same thing as 2. I had to give them the command to salvage, even in the wreck-infested area that is CA1 on the test server. I Endorse this Product and/or Service Source Recorder-esque tool for EVE
Kiwis23 Kiwis Corp 11	Posted - 2012.12.05 06:22:00 - [3] - Quote Patch notes says they can be automated to salvage everything around, however I can't find how to do that... is this a bug, or it has tu be set up as some advanced option somewhere?...
Landrae Sacred Templars Unclaimed. 390	Posted - 2012.12.05 06:26:00 - [4] - Quote Kiwis23 wrote: Patch notes says they can be automated to salvage everything around, however I can't find how to do that... is this a bug, or it has tu be set up as some advanced option somewhere?... People Ive talked to said if your drones are set to aggressive it should work automatically but for a fair number of people it doesn't. Welcome to Eve Online
Pyre leFay The Scope Gallente Federation 53	Posted - 2012.12.05 06:27:00 - [5] - Quote They only auto salvage your wrecks. not all wrecks. you need to specifically order them to salvage a wreck you don't own.
Landrae Sacred Templars Unclaimed. 390	Posted - 2012.12.05 06:28:00 - [6] - Quote Pyre leFay wrote: They only auto salvage your wrecks. not all wrecks. you need to specifically order them to salvage a wreck you don't own. In my case they were salvaging my wrecks, but still having the same problem. Edit: even tried abandoning wrecks to see if that worked, to no avail. Welcome to Eve Online
Kiwis23 Kiwis Corp 11	Posted - 2012.12.05 06:29:00 - [7] - Quote Well, I have them set on agro, wrecs belongs to my corp. Tried abandonging them, still won't salvage automaticly... Edit - shortcut for attack does not work to salvage either... have to right click drone menu and click salvage for every single target. That's a major fail.
Manes Avatarr Adventurers 3	Posted - 2012.12.05 07:16:00 - [8] - Quote We definately need salvage-command shortcut for new dronez. BTW Drones will continue to salvage if you dont have any wrecks locked and just give salvage order to drones.
Guy Waldroop Backwater Resources Outer-Space Surveillance 0	Posted - 2012.12.06 05:59:00 - [9] - Quote Just tested these out on Gone Berserk and some belts. For "abandoned" wrecks you'll need to lock the wreck and then right ciick > salvage (unnghgh) With nothing locked they will salvage continuously (on your wrecks) but they have to return to "deposit" the salvage each time. This just seems incredibly inefficient. It takes 5 drones to carry one charred micro circuit? Come on lil guys bulk up! The best use of them is to augment your noctis, you can fit more tractor beams and just let the weak little dumpster divers loose on the pile as you bring it closer to the ship. It makes for a little easier salvaging which was always fairly click intensive. Also it would make sense if they went for the closest wreck to your ship, now the selection seems almost random. They pick a wreck at 65km, then 16km, then 50km etc etc. But can't we code to let them salvage until, at the very least, each one of them is carrying a piece of salvage?? I also agree we need to hotkey "salvage."
Ronan Connor 8	Posted - 2012.12.06 08:47:00 - [10] - Quote I have drones at "aggressive". Nothing. I send them, they salvage, come back, dump and go idle. Until they salvage on their own they are useless except maybe as a emergency salvaging when you just have a drone bay but no slot for a salvager left.

Seline Taal Taal Order 0	Posted - 2012.12.06 09:01:00 - [11] - Quote EDIT , Realised the fix was posted above You can send just 1 drone to each targetted wreck but its manual, works faster that way though in the end
Ronan Connor 8	Posted - 2012.12.06 09:09:00 - [12] - Quote Seline Taal wrote: EDIT , Realised the fix was posted above You can send just 1 drone to each targetted wreck but its manual, works faster that way though in the end Did that as well. Does change nothing to a situation where you can use a noctis, not even compared to a salvacane or a salvadestroyer. To be mildly useful you would need at last a keybind, but then the game would be turned into a clickfest, whereas the summer games on the C64 with a joystick would look like an intelligent game.
Doddy Excidium. Executive Outcomes 398	Posted - 2012.12.06 09:15:00 - [13] - Quote Ronan Connor wrote: Seline Taal wrote: EDIT , Realised the fix was posted above You can send just 1 drone to each targetted wreck but its manual, works faster that way though in the end Did that as well. Does change nothing to a situation where you can use a noctis, not even compared to a salvacane or a salvadestroyer. Pretty sure they are not meant to be used in a situation where you can use a noctis .....

CCP Paradox 622	Posted - 2012.12.06 09:18:00 - [14] - Quote Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest. As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though. CCP Paradox \| EVE Quality Assurance \| Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox

Landrae Sacred Templars Unclaimed. 391	Posted - 2012.12.06 10:05:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest. As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though. Thank you Paradox for the update I had wondered about the corp member wrecks as well recently. I know you guys have alot on your plates with the new expansion in bugs and quirks to work out but it makes me happy to know you are aware of the issue and working on it. Welcome to Eve Online
Ronan Connor 8	Posted - 2012.12.06 10:14:00 - [16] - Quote Thx, that would explain quite alot. I saw the "salvage" in the sub menu but I think we were all using it the same like "engage target" with locked wrecks before. Will try that now.
Remiel Pollard Devlin Security Devlin Alliance 259	Posted - 2012.12.06 10:27:00 - [17] - Quote I've just been out salvaging and I've noticed all this stuff, but I tried something different this time. I launched drones when I arrived on station and told them to "salvage" before I locked anything up. They went off on their own merry way, sometimes splitting off to salvage different wrecks, while I went after the ones they didn't with my Noctis' tractor beams. One thing I've noticed which is a bit of a boon is that they have a longer range than tractors, so you can send them after wrecks that are out of range of tractor beams while you focus on the ones that are in range. They effectively increase the reach of the Noctis which I find makes salvaging go a lot quicker, especially after missions like The Blockade or In The Shadow of War. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Ronan Connor 8	Posted - 2012.12.06 10:35:00 - [18] - Quote Ok now i did that, and it does work that way. Unfortunately the "new AI" isnt as smart as to split themselves to a single wreck each. Besides that its funny that they have to unload every single salvage. Cant they manage 10 or 100 pieces until they return?

CCP Paradox 625	Posted - 2012.12.06 10:37:00 - [19] - Quote They are weaker at salvaging, but if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful. That being said, definitely right clicking drones in local space and choosing salvage is the way to go. Unless you are naughty and want to salvage somebody's wreck :P CCP Paradox \| EVE Quality Assurance \| Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox

Remiel Pollard Devlin Security Devlin Alliance 259	Posted - 2012.12.06 10:53:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: They are weaker at salvaging, but if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful. That being said, definitely right clicking drones in local space and choosing salvage is the way to go. Unless you are naughty and want to salvage somebody's wreck :P That's not naughty. If it was naughty, there'd be a suspect flag for it. See what I did there? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.

Planktal Kenshao Industries 56	Posted - 2012.12.06 12:04:00 - [21] - Quote looks like if the wrecks are yours the drones work fine but if the wrecks are like a corp mate that's in your fleet the drones ignore them even if wrecks are released. Here sanity, nice sanity.....THWOOK Got the bastard
Zifrian Licentia Ex Vereor Intrepid Crossing 438	Posted - 2012.12.06 12:40:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest. As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though. Can you add this shortcut key to mining drones too? I even have the asteroid targeted! Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour!
Steijn Quay Industries CAStabouts 201	Posted - 2012.12.06 13:07:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest. As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though. Im finding that these dont work as you say. I have numerous wrecks, all made by myself. I have nothing targeted, i release drones, issue salvage command, drones go off and salvage a wreck, return, then any number of the 5 just sit there and do nothing, wheras maybe 1 or 2 go salvage another wreck, when these 1 or 2 return, they then join the others and just sit idle even though there are still wrecks........i would say that this is not working as intended. EDIT: Really stupid question, but what range do these salvage drones supposedly go out to? I see an optimal range 0f 5000m, and yet this seems totally wrong.
Dimitryy Ever Flow Northern Coalition. 59	Posted - 2012.12.06 13:49:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: ...if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful. I don't think my life will be getting any more useful with salvaging drones. At least not while i spend half my time at work playing Eve
Omnathious Deninard Extrinsic Operations 286	Posted - 2012.12.06 14:02:00 - [25] - Quote Steijn wrote: CCP Paradox wrote: Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest. As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though. Im finding that these dont work as you say. I have numerous wrecks, all made by myself. I have nothing targeted, i release drones, issue salvage command, drones go off and salvage a wreck, return, then any number of the 5 just sit there and do nothing, wheras maybe 1 or 2 go salvage another wreck, when these 1 or 2 return, they then join the others and just sit idle even though there are still wrecks........i would say that this is not working as intended. EDIT: Really stupid question, but what range do these salvage drones supposedly go out to? I see an optimal range 0f 5000m, and yet this seems totally wrong. They will, go out to what ever your drone control range is, it starts at 20k and with skills it goes up to 60k with Max skills. Ideas For Drone Improvement Updated 11/30/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting
KIller Wabbit The Scope Gallente Federation 138	Posted - 2012.12.06 15:57:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: They are weaker at salvaging, but if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful. That being said, definitely right clicking drones in local space and choosing salvage is the way to go. Unless you are naughty and want to salvage somebody's wreck :P A bit surprised that this discussion wasn't moved to the official threads. Are the drones smart enough to only go after the wrecks they are best suited for first or will they do their darnedest to find a T3 wreck to get stuck on? CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
Doddy Excidium. Executive Outcomes 403	Posted - 2012.12.06 16:19:00 - [27] - Quote Steijn wrote: CCP Paradox wrote: Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest. As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though. Im finding that these dont work as you say. I have numerous wrecks, all made by myself. I have nothing targeted, i release drones, issue salvage command, drones go off and salvage a wreck, return, then any number of the 5 just sit there and do nothing, wheras maybe 1 or 2 go salvage another wreck, when these 1 or 2 return, they then join the others and just sit idle even though there are still wrecks........i would say that this is not working as intended. EDIT: Really stupid question, but what range do these salvage drones supposedly go out to? I see an optimal range 0f 5000m, and yet this seems totally wrong. 5000m is thier salvage range same as the module. Thier drone range will be dependent on your skills.
Steijn Quay Industries CAStabouts 201	Posted - 2012.12.06 18:06:00 - [28] - Quote TY Doddy/Omna. Still finding that sometimes when they return, they dont all go back to salvaging, some just orbit me.
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 1517	Posted - 2012.12.06 18:13:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest. As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though. While you're at ti can be PLEASE have a hotkey for mining drones? Or just get all drone action integrated into "Engage"? It makes more sense seeing as how all the drones have only one action, the engage command should do that action regardless of what it is. And get rid of the "mine once" function and leave just the "mine repeatedly" function. Mining once is pointless with drones.... especially with lack of a hotkey D: The Drake is a Lie
War Kitten Panda McLegion 1482	Posted - 2012.12.06 18:17:00 - [30] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: CCP Paradox wrote: They are weaker at salvaging, but if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful. That being said, definitely right clicking drones in local space and choosing salvage is the way to go. Unless you are naughty and want to salvage somebody's wreck :P That's not naughty. If it was naughty, there'd be a suspect flag for it. See what I did there? This, pretty much. CCP has repeatedly held that salvage is owned by no one, thus generates no flag. Why now do drones recognize ownership of a wreck's salvage? I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.

Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 1222	Posted - 2012.12.06 19:29:00 - [31] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: CCP Paradox wrote: They are weaker at salvaging, but if you are running missions where they can salvage wrecks they could make your life a lot more useful. That being said, definitely right clicking drones in local space and choosing salvage is the way to go. Unless you are naughty and want to salvage somebody's wreck :P That's not naughty. If it was naughty, there'd be a suspect flag for it. See what I did there? It is naughty, just not sufficiently naughty to be illegal. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
Thelic38 Gulf Squadron 0	Posted - 2012.12.06 19:47:00 - [32] - Quote Salvage drones seem uneffected by drone control range? Just had my salvage drones out past 70km in the Noctis, no drone link modules fitted. Definatly having problems with auto salvaging blue/corp wrecks, they like to just come back and orbit. Also seeing a lot of all 5 returning before going back to auto salvaging. I was under the impression that only the sucessful one would return.
MainDrain 7th Deepari Defence Armada The Veyr Collective 17	Posted - 2012.12.06 20:36:00 - [33] - Quote Yup having the same issue of my drones not salvaging my fleets wrecks, even when made blue
Mika Takahoshi School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.12.06 21:14:00 - [34] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: That's not naughty. If it was naughty, there'd be a suspect flag for it. See what I did there? Yes, you confused the orthogonal concepts of "wrong" and "illegal".
Irya Boone Escadron leader 83	Posted - 2012.12.07 01:29:00 - [35] - Quote Really ? CCP what your problem With drones ? can't set a shortcut to mine or salvage ... can't give them real speed ( or a Micro Jump to get in range of a target .... ) Seriously ..... I try to understand But ..... Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á
Fango Mango University of Caille Gallente Federation 58	Posted - 2012.12.09 20:28:00 - [36] - Quote Confirming that salvage drones will not auto-target fleet members wrecks (salvager was different corp that rest of fleet). Wrecks were valid to loot/tractor but salvage drones said there were no valid wrecks
Red zeon Sacred Templars Unclaimed. 11	Posted - 2012.12.10 04:52:00 - [37] - Quote i just got to work now but if anyone would wanna try leaving fleet and then try if the salvage drones auto salvages? or never join fleet but give bookmark and warp to the wrecks if that helps?
nesdaq Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.01.06 02:19:00 - [38] - Quote Bump, Any work on the corp/blue wrecks? They are pretty much useless w/out this option. The AI of the salvage drones can use a buff up to tbh (salvage in a set of 5 or one for each wreck for example)
Alpha Wolfgang IDFK2 1	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:30:00 - [39] - Quote it would be nice if salvage drones automatically cleaned up all wrecks that are white, doing missions with a friend and my drones wont clean up because theyre his.
CENTUREAN Keepers of the Abyss High Rollers 3	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:34:00 - [40] - Quote They work fine as long as the wrecks were created by u alone. 1 warp to site. 2 do not target anything. 3 pop out salvage drones 4 do not target anything. 5 set drones to salvage. 6 wait 4 seconds. Then noctis tractor beam in all wreaks to 0 7 at this point the drones are automatic 8 tractor and salvage till done. I assume wrecks created by anyone other than the ratting character will lose the ability to automate the drones. my ratter character is the same as my noctis character...it works fine for me. My salvage drones never leave 0 from my noctis as I tractor all the wrecks in to 0.

Vaulnyr Cognitive Dissidents 0	Posted - 2013.01.20 09:13:00 - [41] - Quote CENTUREAN wrote: 1 warp to site. 2 do not target anything. 3 pop out salvage drones 4 do not target anything. 5 set drones to salvage. 6 wait 4 seconds. Then noctis tractor beam in all wreaks to 0 7 at this point the drones are automatic 8 tractor and salvage till done. Confirmed. This has worked perfectly the last five times I've gone salvaging. Thanks much CENTUREAN.
Thomas Gore Blackfyre Enterprise 241	Posted - 2013.01.20 11:17:00 - [42] - Quote It works as long as you generated the wreck yourself and by yourself only. The autosalvage does not touch anything else, not allied/corp/abandoned wrecks. Only those you generated with your own account.
Hir Miriel Elves In Space 13	Posted - 2013.01.20 11:26:00 - [43] - Quote One minor thing, salvage drones won't pop up a skill insufficient message like normally salvaging attempts do.
Dark Drifter Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 59	Posted - 2013.01.21 02:43:00 - [44] - Quote tell drones to salvage while nothing is locked, drones will then salvage wrecks, they will start with the closest wrecks then move further out. if you tractor wrecks then they will salvage them first.
Stein Backstabber The Lost and Forgotten Troopers 11	Posted - 2013.01.21 08:41:00 - [45] - Quote MainDrain wrote: Yup having the same issue of my drones not salvaging my fleets wrecks, even when made blue This. I recall a dev post saying their view was this was a big, but have lost track of it/seen no updates - has there been any word on this?
nesdaq Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.01.21 22:16:00 - [46] - Quote bump, Also if a corp mate is pulling your wrecks it marks the wrecks NOT yours anymore. DEV, respond plz.
nesdaq Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.01.23 22:54:00 - [47] - Quote bump
Arronicus Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made. 116	Posted - 2013.01.23 22:57:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest. This is specifically why I do not use them. Tried them numerous different times, over the course of a week, and not once could I get them to salvage wrecks that were killed by one of my incorp alts that was not the character deploying the salvage drones.
Merouk Baas 460	Posted - 2013.01.24 01:17:00 - [49] - Quote The drones do automatically salvage, but they always go for the nearest wreck, which means that, regardless of the FOCUS FIRE setting, all 5 drones always go for the same wreck. So one drone will salvage the wreck and 4 drones will circle uselessly. You can manually lock up 5 wrecks and right-click each drone to send it after a different wreck but they stop after their wreck is salvaged, and go back to all going after the same wreck. Oh, and they don't respond to the All Drones Engage keybind, even if you do have a wreck targetted and selected as the recipient. YOU HAVE TO USE THE RIGHT-CLICK to get them to do their job. Extremely annoying. I'd prefer my drones to engage the wreck if I command them to, and to each go after a different wreck if I don't have drones to focus fire.
Remiel Pollard Intergalactic Trade and Harm 1293	Posted - 2013.01.24 05:56:00 - [50] - Quote Merouk Baas wrote: The drones do automatically salvage, but they always go for the nearest wreck, which means that, regardless of the FOCUS FIRE setting, all 5 drones always go for the same wreck. So one drone will salvage the wreck and 4 drones will circle uselessly. You can manually lock up 5 wrecks and right-click each drone to send it after a different wreck but they stop after their wreck is salvaged, and go back to all going after the same wreck. Oh, and they don't respond to the All Drones Engage keybind, even if you do have a wreck targetted and selected as the recipient. YOU HAVE TO USE THE RIGHT-CLICK to get them to do their job. Extremely annoying. I'd prefer my drones to engage the wreck if I command them to, and to each go after a different wreck if I don't have drones to focus fire. You know the thing you click to pull down the list of drones you have in space? It says "drones in space". Did you know that if you right click on that, instead of the drones beneath it, you can issue one order to all your drones without having to interact with each one individually? This is pretty basic, EVE 101 type stuff. so... Deploy drones > don't target anything > right click "drones in space" and select salvage > ????? > profit. By the way, in an area with a mix of wrecks (your own and someone else's) this is what the Noctis is for. You send drones to autosalvage your wrecks, while you use the Noctis to salvage everyone else's. Also, drones are good for getting to wrecks that are beyond tractor range - target those wrecks and manually order your drones to salvage them, and you won't have to slowboat all the way over their yourself. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.

Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 2999	Posted - 2013.01.24 06:36:00 - [51] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Merouk Baas wrote: The drones do automatically salvage, but they always go for the nearest wreck, which means that, regardless of the FOCUS FIRE setting, all 5 drones always go for the same wreck. So one drone will salvage the wreck and 4 drones will circle uselessly. You know the thing you click to pull down the list of drones you have in space? It says "drones in space". Did you know that if you right click on that, instead of the drones beneath it, you can issue one order to all your drones without having to interact with each one individually? I'm not sure how instructing Merouk Baas to do exactly what he's already doing is supposed to solve the problem he's having. Perhaps you want to read his post again and realise that you just made yourself look like a donkey for no good reason? Setting drones to auto-salvage will end up with most wrecks being salvaged by more than one drone, meaning that at least one drone has wasted that entire salvage cycle. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Fanatic Row DED Drug Enforcement Department 40	Posted - 2013.01.24 06:40:00 - [52] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: You know the thing you click to pull down the list of drones you have in space? It says "drones in space". Did you know that if you right click on that, instead of the drones beneath it, you can issue one order to all your drones without having to interact with each one individually? This is pretty basic, EVE 101 type stuff. Did you know that he doesn't want all drones going after the same target? Which is exactly what they will do when doing this, unless ordered individually, despite 'focus fire' being off? Pretty basic reading 101 Remiel Pollard wrote: so... Deploy drones > don't target anything > right click "drones in space" and select salvage > ????? > profit. By the way, in an area with a mix of wrecks (your own and someone else's) this is what the Noctis is for. You send drones to autosalvage your wrecks, while you use the Noctis to salvage everyone else's. Also, drones are good for getting to wrecks that are beyond tractor range - target those wrecks and manually order your drones to salvage them, and you won't have to slowboat all the way over their yourself. Did you know that a lot of players salvage on an alt account, and that drones wont auto salvage fleetmembers' wrecks when doing this?
Remiel Pollard Intergalactic Trade and Harm 1294	Posted - 2013.01.25 04:35:00 - [53] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Merouk Baas wrote: The drones do automatically salvage, but they always go for the nearest wreck, which means that, regardless of the FOCUS FIRE setting, all 5 drones always go for the same wreck. So one drone will salvage the wreck and 4 drones will circle uselessly. You know the thing you click to pull down the list of drones you have in space? It says "drones in space". Did you know that if you right click on that, instead of the drones beneath it, you can issue one order to all your drones without having to interact with each one individually? I'm not sure how instructing Merouk Baas to do exactly what he's already doing is supposed to solve the problem he's having. Perhaps you want to read his post again and realise that you just made yourself look like a donkey for no good reason? Setting drones to auto-salvage will end up with most wrecks being salvaged by more than one drone, meaning that at least one drone has wasted that entire salvage cycle. I just checked the mirror.... nope, still human. The more drones on a target, the better chance of salvage. Not seeing anything more than a personal problem here. Same with the other post - I know they won't autosalvage wrecks you don't destroy yourself, that's why I explained "that's what the noctis is for". You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 13791	Posted - 2013.01.25 08:08:00 - [54] - Quote Drones don't work correctly in Eve. News at eleven. CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
Seleia O'Sinnor Drop of Honey 304	Posted - 2013.01.25 08:31:00 - [55] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest. As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We are working on bringing a shortcut key though. +1 Devs caring for little things! New inventory: Getting better since version 1.2, but what about back and forward buttons?
nesdaq Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.01.30 07:27:00 - [56] - Quote bump :)
Merouk Baas 494	Posted - 2013.01.30 10:57:00 - [57] - Quote No need to bump, nothing will be done about it short term. They're busy with DUST launch. Dev has posted; they've seen this thread. A year from now, maybe they'll remember.
Seranova Farreach Caldari Provisions Caldari State 414	Posted - 2013.01.30 11:10:00 - [58] - Quote Landrae wrote: So I picked up some salvage drones and the skill book for my noctis and after using the to clean angel forsaken hubs I noticed a couple things. 1. You cant bind the salvage command to a key like when you tell drones to attack. 2. Salvage drones as I understand as supposed to be like mining drones and just salvage your wrecks until their is nothing left within range to salvage, yet they salvage one target then wait for me to click to tell them next one to get. Now is this a bug or working as intended? OK for Salv drones to "work" autonamously you need to have NOTHING targeted, and THEN you set them to SALVAGE and watch the little blighters get to work (limited by drone control range)
Ruskarn Andedare Lion Investments 85	Posted - 2013.01.30 11:52:00 - [59] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Mara Rinn wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Merouk Baas wrote: The drones do automatically salvage, but they always go for the nearest wreck, which means that, regardless of the FOCUS FIRE setting, all 5 drones always go for the same wreck. So one drone will salvage the wreck and 4 drones will circle uselessly. You know the thing you click to pull down the list of drones you have in space? It says "drones in space". Did you know that if you right click on that, instead of the drones beneath it, you can issue one order to all your drones without having to interact with each one individually? I'm not sure how instructing Merouk Baas to do exactly what he's already doing is supposed to solve the problem he's having. Perhaps you want to read his post again and realise that you just made yourself look like a donkey for no good reason? Setting drones to auto-salvage will end up with most wrecks being salvaged by more than one drone, meaning that at least one drone has wasted that entire salvage cycle. I just checked the mirror.... nope, still human. The more drones on a target, the better chance of salvage. Not seeing anything more than a personal problem here. Same with the other post - I know they won't autosalvage wrecks you don't destroy yourself, that's why I explained "that's what the noctis is for". From my experimentation recently it looks like your drones will salvage all your fleets' wrecks if you are the fleet boss. More tests necessary to be sure but it looks like we may have a work-around.
BoBoZoBo MGroup9 Quantum Cafe 202	Posted - 2013.01.30 16:48:00 - [60] - Quote The binding sucks, that should definitely change. But once I give the command to salvage, they keep doing so, just like mining drones. Pretty sweet if you are just salvaging known space rats Now we need T2 for WH space. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite

KIller Wabbit The Scope Gallente Federation 319	Posted - 2013.01.30 17:50:00 - [61] - Quote Ruskarn Andedare wrote: From my experimentation recently it looks like your drones will salvage all your fleets' wrecks if you are the fleet boss. More tests necessary to be sure but it looks like we may have a work-around. Nice catch if this is a solid work-around. Do you have to be fleet boss during the creation of the wrecks or will becoming one after they are created work? Too bad one of the recent stealth patches hasn't whipped these malfunctioning drones into shape..... CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
Ruskarn Andedare Lion Investments 88	Posted - 2013.01.30 18:37:00 - [62] - Quote KIller Wabbit wrote: Ruskarn Andedare wrote: From my experimentation recently it looks like your drones will salvage all your fleets' wrecks if you are the fleet boss. More tests necessary to be sure but it looks like we may have a work-around. Nice catch if this is a solid work-around. Do you have to be fleet boss during the creation of the wrecks or will becoming one after they are created work? Too bad one of the recent stealth patches hasn't whipped these malfunctioning drones into shape..... I haven't run enough tests yet - evidence so far is based on 5 lvl 3 missions with a corpmate 3 missions where I was the boss - my drones salvaged all wrecks 2 missions where he was the boss - my drones salvaged only my wrecks In all cases the fleet boss was determined before entering the mission and not changed during.
Beekeeper Bob Beekeepers Anonymous 416	Posted - 2013.01.30 18:48:00 - [63] - Quote Sorry kids, AI is reserved for NPC's, they have none left for the dumb drones..... The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today! Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
KIller Wabbit The Scope Gallente Federation 319	Posted - 2013.01.30 18:48:00 - [64] - Quote Sounds pretty repeatable and conclusive to me. Maybe the dev's will note your efforts and find a fix. Well done! I'll have to see if I can crash a corp mate's fleet, take over fleet boss and see if that enables "all salvage" mode. Cross your fingers! CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
KIller Wabbit The Scope Gallente Federation 320	Posted - 2013.02.01 06:50:00 - [65] - Quote Acquiring Boss in fleet after wrecks have been created by fleet does not let you engage true auto-salvage mode. You're stuck with individual targeting. CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
Ruskarn Andedare Lion Investments 92	Posted - 2013.02.01 13:44:00 - [66] - Quote KIller Wabbit wrote: Acquiring Boss in fleet after wrecks have been created by fleet does not let you engage true auto-salvage mode. You're stuck with individual targeting. Darn, I was hoping that would work

CCP Paradox 766	Posted - 2013.02.01 17:37:00 - [67] - Quote Just as a FYI. The fix has been on Singularity for a while and is ready to be rolled out with Retribution 1.1 CCP Paradox \| EVE Quality Assurance \| Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox

KIller Wabbit The Scope Gallente Federation 320	Posted - 2013.02.01 18:20:00 - [68] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: Just as a FYI. The fix has been on Singularity for a while and is ready to be rolled out with Retribution 1.1 "The fix" - perhaps a bit of detail on what it is would be nice? CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
nesdaq Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.02.05 00:22:00 - [69] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: Just as a FYI. The fix has been on Singularity for a while and is ready to be rolled out with Retribution 1.1 Sweet KIller Wabbit wrote: CCP Paradox wrote: Just as a FYI. The fix has been on Singularity for a while and is ready to be rolled out with Retribution 1.1 "The fix" - perhaps a bit of detail on what it is would be nice? salvaging corp wrecks in space: CHECK (not tested yellow) Salvaging trough drone attack shortcut: CHECK (autopilot and/or targeted wreck) and thats the only thing Atleast we(I) can deal with it :) Can we expect any more future AI upgrade on these drones? * Like give give these buggers 0,5 M3 cargo or some kind, so they are able to salvage multiple wrecks until it's full and home-phone-ship, drop the salvage and resume the party with the rest of the group. * force x-numbers to be grouped.
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 3035	Posted - 2013.02.05 00:33:00 - [70] - Quote Thanks for checking :) Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players



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