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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
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Posted - 2013.01.25 14:44:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote: DCM may have fail fit and been bad at Eve, but I don't think you can brag about "skill" when your piloting was basic enough a newbie straight out of the SoE arc could do it.
Um. Were you trying to paraphrase his post or was that an accident? -Liang
Thank you, yes I don't claim to be a good solo PVPer my point was exactly that it required no skill for me to engage a fit like that when the fight started at 0, yet still people use boosts as an excuse, when evidently anyone who was fresh out of SoE arc could have done the same, boosts or otherwise.
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Cearain
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
802
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Posted - 2013.01.25 16:22:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:If the Firetail is AB fit with a TD and sitting on the warp in of the plex the Coercer is going to have a bad day, boosts or not.
You might be right, but
1) Just because in a single fight didn't make much difference doesn't really prove much.
2) You can fit a coercer to help deal with smaller ships that try to outtrack you. (Drop, tracking mods, smaller guns etc) Hence you might get some good fights. But when you assume that the smaller ships have boosts you shouldnt even fight. Your only option is to run.
The long range boosted ships have way too much slack when they can orbit anywhere from 13-30km and have more speed and agility. If you try to fit for them then the in close stuff will leave you with your pants down.
Bottom line is unless you have an alt booster yourself your just handing out stupidly easy kills.
Face it there are no more good fits unless you have a booster alt too.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.01.25 16:26:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197430&find=unread
Will be removed as soon as it can be done without breaking the server. |

Mystical Might
Alekhine's Gun
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Posted - 2013.01.25 17:39:00 -
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Look, While OGBing, and links in general may be problematic for the solo pilots of FW, why don't you do something about it?
I, myself, have killed around 7-8 boosting ships, including lokis and command ships, in the last 5 days. It's pretty simple to do, doesn't take much time to engineer, and costs your opponent both isk and time (they may even send a few tears your way). Either way, It sends a message home if you kill their boosters enough.
Then they become risk averse, hiding and/or docking every time you enter local. No more problem... for the most part. |

Barakach
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:12:00 -
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SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:Wah wah wah, I cba to train or buy another char, I cba to grind isk to pay more subs, I don't want to put effort in to dualboxing, but I want equal chances. Cry me a river. Eve rewards time and effort put in. (allthough that's slowly going to the shitter).
Also, confirming quoting from Trinkets is the best way to get your point across. By the way, I've seen this great piece of investigative journalism on FOX News ...
Oh, also, requesting special pvp mechanics for FW is ... well, let's just say it should be a picture of you in the dictionary next to special flowsnake.
Botters use that same logic. They grind up that isk and put effort into botting, why shouldn't they be safe while in high-sec? If you want to compete with botters, then you should bot, see, perfectly fair. |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.25 18:50:00 -
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As long as we're talking specific mods to FW again, I think code should be added to the pile that PREVENTS non-FW pilots from entering plexes. Not in FW? You can't enter the plex. Even more stupid than gate camping is the neutral idiots who camp the warp-in in plexes. Get a life already... "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |

Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:16:00 -
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Get ******, that accounts for a good 10 kills a day for me...
Ginger Barbarella wrote:As long as we're talking specific mods to FW again, I think code should be added to the pile that PREVENTS non-FW pilots from entering plexes. Not in FW? You can't enter the plex. Even more stupid than gate camping is the neutral idiots who camp the warp-in in plexes. Get a life already...
QCATs is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |

Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.01.25 19:19:00 -
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Mystical Might wrote:Look, While OGBing, and links in general may be problematic for the solo pilots of FW, why don't you do something about it?
I, myself, have killed around 7-8 boosting ships, including lokis and command ships, in the last 5 days. It's pretty simple to do, doesn't take much time to engineer, and costs your opponent both isk and time (they may even send a few tears your way). Either way, It sends a message home if you kill their boosters enough.
Then they become risk averse, hiding and/or docking every time you enter local. No more problem... for the most part.
THIS! HTFU We have killed dozens of these, even some friendly on accident  There is a counter to everything in Eve. Besides, prison raping some **** with boosts when you have none is oh so sweet. QCATs is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |

Taoist Dragon
Forced Penetration Hopeless Addiction
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Posted - 2013.01.25 20:57:00 -
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Princess Nexxala wrote:Mystical Might wrote:Look, While OGBing, and links in general may be problematic for the solo pilots of FW, why don't you do something about it?
I, myself, have killed around 7-8 boosting ships, including lokis and command ships, in the last 5 days. It's pretty simple to do, doesn't take much time to engineer, and costs your opponent both isk and time (they may even send a few tears your way). Either way, It sends a message home if you kill their boosters enough.
Then they become risk averse, hiding and/or docking every time you enter local. No more problem... for the most part. THIS! HTFU We have killed dozens of these, even some friendly on accident  There is a counter to everything in Eve. Besides, prison raping some **** with boosts when you have none is oh so sweet.
One thing I have noticed in the majority of 'OMG NERF OGB's!" threads is the lack of willingness to actually try and engage the boosting alt. This lack of willingness stems from two reason that I have experienced 1. Lack of ability to fly ships that can gank the alt on gates etc. 2. Lack of ability/desire to form a fleet to remove that annoying small pos in system that holds the boosting toon.
Now some of this is down to size/experience of people's corps/factions/alliances or whatever but I also think it may have a lot to do with a big amount of apathy among players who have just accepted boosts as a 'norm' in eve. We need more people who are willing to try and disrupt the OGB'ing toon whever they may be. After all if the booster is on station and you force them to dock up then boosts are no longer applied. Same if you force them to jump to adjacent systems. The hardest to combat is POS boosting toons. Well if a system is important enough to fight over then remove the pos. Easy said but alot harder to get done given the apathy that has seemingly set in with the average pvp'er (FW pvp'ers in particular)
If we start smashing boosting alts at every opportunity it make them much less attractive. And once we smash the booster if you turn off/dock up/jump out your own boosting toons you also show that you are willing to engage unboosted so you engender a mentality that boosts are not 'required' or 'necessary' and people will leave them out more often.
There is nothing in eve to stop us changing peoples perceptions and thought patterns....it is after all a sandbox and way too many people are letting other players dictate how they play it.
Hmmm I might have found a new hobby.... ......How successful I'll be however is up for debate but it'll be fun along the way. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
I'm NOT a Pirate! I'm a privateer! |

Cearain
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
804
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Posted - 2013.01.25 21:58:00 -
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Mystical Might wrote:Look, While OGBing, and links in general may be problematic for the solo pilots of FW, why don't you do something about it?
I, myself, have killed around 7-8 boosting ships, including lokis and command ships, in the last 5 days. It's pretty simple to do, doesn't take much time to engineer, and costs your opponent both isk and time (they may even send a few tears your way). Either way, It sends a message home if you kill their boosters enough.
Then they become risk averse, hiding and/or docking every time you enter local. No more problem... for the most part.
I agree with this. But honestly just thinking about ******* around with the scan probes for a few hours makes my neck hurt. I hate the scan probe mechanics. I do wish others would do this though.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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