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JC Anderson
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:05:00 -
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There have been in the past.
A few CSM's back Ankhesentapemkah was elected with the second highest vote count of any candidate. She was rabidly anti-pirate, anti-anti-carebear, anti-scam, anti-anything-not-carebear. Even went as far as to say that anybody who pirates in eve is scum in real life.
Problem was... She was crazy. (Or I thought so)
Also she was removed from the CSM for a breach in the NDA disclosure. Prior to that she showed that she wasn't able to get along with the other CSM either. This was especially true after she threw a metal spoon across the table at one of them in anger in Iceland.
Anyhow, she proved that carebear rep's CAN be voted into the CSM. But instead of any candidates coming forward and campaigning since her, people instead just ***** and moan that the elections are rigged and you can't win without the backing of a mega null sec alliance. |
JC Anderson
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:13:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:IIshira wrote:level 5 missions back in highsec and make them require a fleet to do efficiently You are talking about incursions, try em. P.S. I don't get it - why hi-seccers decided CSM should have their representative? CSM is null/PvP/alliances/sovereignty meta-game to make people there less unhappy / bored / etc.
Actually, I'm not sure if it's still this way, but level 5 missions did used to net tens of thousands of loyalty points per mission.
Anyhow, many of them are just one jump out of hisec.
Some people figured out how to solo them... And I think they may have actually implemented some changes after that since they were never meant to be solo'ed. |
JC Anderson
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:18:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:
Ha ha, good times. I wish I'd been around to follow those episodes. A Like for this post as a fine piece of documentary reporting.
I always used to say that her first problem was running for CSM with a name that nobody could ever possibly pronounce, nor spell without seeing it in front of them. |
JC Anderson
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:40:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Ah, yes, the "spoongate"... I recall that caused a brief outcry; a very brief one since actually no one cares about CSM anyway.
To OP: Kelduum Rheevan as boss of Eve University is probably as carebearish as it gets.....
Yes Spoon Gate and the Saga of the Queen of Spoons. :P
Funny thing is she moved on to real life politics in The Swedish Piratpartiet. |
JC Anderson
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:56:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:JC Anderson wrote:Nerath Naaris wrote:Ah, yes, the "spoongate"... I recall that caused a brief outcry; a very brief one since actually no one cares about CSM anyway.
To OP: Kelduum Rheevan as boss of Eve University is probably as carebearish as it gets..... Yes Spoon Gate and the Saga of the Queen of Spoons. :P Funny thing is she moved on to real life politics in The Swedish Piratpartiet. Wow. Really ? That's actually hilarious if true. Spoongate was one of the things that occured my first 3 months of playing and my first CSM vote. I went for Vile Rat, tbh. Horrific how that turned out of course. 
Yeah she was listed on the Piratpartiet wiki somewhere after attaining an elected position.
And yes about Vile Rat :( |
JC Anderson
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:01:00 -
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Yup, but the truly funny part is the reasoning she was removed from the CSM alongside the fact that she is now a rep of that party. :P |
JC Anderson
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:08:00 -
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To this day, I still think she had one of the most polished CSM campaign vids of them all.
That does not mean that I actually liked the video though.
http://evajobse.net/TakeCare/movie.php
Her video AFTER that one even had more flash and polish, and was in an office interview sort of set. Can't find link though. |
JC Anderson
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:25:00 -
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THATS THE ONE!
The effort put into that is insane, considering what it was for. |
JC Anderson
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Posted - 2012.12.08 00:08:00 -
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Imports Plus wrote:Tippia wrote:GǪand to this day, I've never felt that I've gotten a good answer to the question of what supposed highsec issues are missing on the agenda due to the current (or indeed any other) representation. I've never seen it articulated either. I believe it would go something like this: 1. More isk per hour for all PVE activities across the board. 2. Salvage drones (oops already got that) 3. Total protection be it from CONCORD or some other mechanism, inability to be interacted with by any other player without consent. 4. Larger cargoholds so that mining requires less attention (oops already got that) 5. Make rarer commodities from WH or 0.0 space easier to obtain or even be manufactured in high sec. 6. Sever any ties to or make irrelevant WH space or 0.0 to any high sec manufacturer. 7. Nerf bumping or remove the mechanic entirely- this could go hand-in-hand with point 3: inability to be interacted with by any other player without consent. 8. Make suicide ganking nigh impossible. 9. Make freighters impregnable. 10. Make it easier and faster to autopilot from one market hub to another. Does that cover it? 
No... The game needs "go and pick up that loot for me" drones as well. |
JC Anderson
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Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2012.12.08 03:40:00 -
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IIshira wrote:
Okay so back on topic the answer is no.
Though the entire history of the CSM there was one but she was crazy or something and is no longer in the CSM.
And now I see why there has been no improvements to highsec. There's a ton of players in highsec but none are organized like the big nullsec alliances.
Thats actually one of the main points here.
Ankhesentapemkah was a carebear rep and was voted in. As I mentioned above, she had the second highest vote count of any other candidate.
Votes Character Name Real Name Country
4,116 Mynxee Carole Pivarnik United States
3,360 Ankhesentapemkah Eva Jobse Netherlands
2,521 Dierdra Vaal Valentijn Geirnaert Netherlands
2,196 Korvin Andrey Antonov Russia
1,649 Vuk Lau Vuk Lau Serbia
1,553 TeaDaze Jason Renouf Guernsey
1,519 Meissa Anunthiel Stephan Pirson Belgium
1,463 Trebor Daehdoow Robert Woodhead United States
1,260 Sokratesz Tim Heusschen Netherlands
Also as mentioned above, she was crazy. But that doesn't prevent anybody else from going out in an attempt to secure votes as the carebear rep of the CSM. However, nobody has done this, and instead we just hear cries of the CSM elections being rigged since there is no way for a carebear to ever be elected.
Threads like this pop up all the time, and the end result is more of the same complaining. Perhaps the people crying should actually do something about it and either run for CSM or actively back another candidate that fits the bill.
Ankhesentapemkah actually flew around empire, visiting the popular PVE mission systems as well as the trade and industry hubs. She promoted herself actively, and sent out god knows how many thousands of Evemails in total to the people that were in those systems. Usually it was messages informing them of her stance, and explaining what the CSM does. (believe it or not, many empire dwellers have never even heard of the council of stellar management.)
Essentially she was able to secure the votes of players that at any other time wouldn't even have bothered to vote, let alone care who was elected in the first place.
So, either find your carebear rep amongst those already voted in, or DO SOMETHING about it by running for CSM yourself. Complaining about it and sitting on the sidelines won't help your cause in the slightest. |
JC Anderson
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Posted - 2012.12.08 04:14:00 -
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One last thing.
To give you an idea of Ank's true level of carebearism, I'll include a few of her EvE-O forum quotes below. Even after all of this, she still won a seat on the CSM.
Ankhesentapemkah wrote:
The only whiners are you criminals, who stubbornly refuse to accept the fact that law enforcement isn't *****ing down hard enough on you, and that it is a logical, realistic and proportional response when Concord and the insurance companies take drastic steps to stop you parasiting scum.
Ankhesentapemkah wrote:
If there are people that need to be treated, it are those griefers, that should be locked away and rehabilitated into friendly productive members of society, instead of running around griefing people left and right because it makes their twisted minds feel aroused.
Ankhesentapemkah wrote:
Of course, but how could someone else's suffering be fun? I'd say that people that enjoy that should be locked away in a mental institution for starters...
Ankhesentapemkah wrote:
I don't have any corpmates, I play this game all by myself. I guess I'm the typical player that sees Eve as a singleplayer game with a nice integrated chat (and I hardly even use that thing). Well it's nice that all these other players are there so I can buy stuff I don't feel like grinding myself, and sell all my trash to which I don't need.
Ankhesentapemkah wrote:
I just feel disappointed that the killer is capable of doing such a thing. I'll never understand that. Surely people have some kind of concience, and some empathy and compassion towards other people? Maybe they just forget that there's a real person behind those ships. Maybe they don't care. Maybe they're ruthless psychopatich sadists.
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JC Anderson
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Posted - 2012.12.08 04:43:00 -
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Harland White wrote:The CSM is composed 100% of nullsec zealots, griefers and pirates. Any/all ideas proposed by CSM generally are anti-highsec. Highseccers are kinda ****ed.
But it's not a problem to me. If I'm eventually forced to a different style of gameplay in order to earn my PLEX/isk each month, there's a nice big juicy "unsubscribe" button waiting for me. And I'll keep my stuff in case CCP has a change of heart about their current goals regarding nerfing highsec.
^^
See what I mean? |
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