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Badboyslb
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Posted - 2005.05.11 16:42:00 -
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Muttokon 2005.05.09 15:59:00
Name: Anjerrai Meloanis (laid the final blow) Security Status: -1.8 Corporation: Friggin' Masters Ship Type: Muninn Weapon Type: 650mm Artillery Cannon II
Victim: Luso Corporation: 33 cl's Destroyed Type: Manticore Solar System: Muttokon System Security Level: 0.2
As Luso reported, he was called by a corpmember because Anjerrai was stollen loot from him at a complex. The victim was coming to the system to scan his cargo when Pirat begunns to shot at him and destroyed his ship. So, the Members of the known Law Inforcing Alliance of the UK¦s are now acused to be Pirats and Thiefs. It seems that diplomatic conversations about compesation of destroied items have had no results.
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TraGix
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Posted - 2005.05.11 16:44:00 -
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OH GOLLY GOSH 
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.05.11 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: TraGix OH GOLLY GOSH 
what he said, its shocking! people have guns without liscences??
sry, couldn't resisit it, ppl pirate - get used to it 
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Crusher166
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Posted - 2005.05.11 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: pshepherd
Originally by: TraGix OH GOLLY GOSH 
what he said, its shocking! people have guns without liscences??
sry, couldn't resisit it, ppl pirate - get used to it 
However, the U'K stand up for freedom and are anti-pirate so the poster is just pointing out that an U'K member was contraticting what his own alliance stands for.
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.05.12 00:35:00 -
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There are two groups among my enemy....
Those who deserve to die honorably at mine own guns. Those who I'd rather feed to the sentries.
U'K has both.
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Miner's Bane
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Posted - 2005.05.12 01:14:00 -
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If you target someone in low-security space (like to oh, i dont know, scan their cargo) you will be shot by basically everyone.
And you deserve it. While locking isnt aggression in the eyes of CONCORD, it is an overtly hostile act. ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Tennotsukai
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Posted - 2005.05.12 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Badboyslb The victim was coming to the system to scan his cargo when Pirat begunns to shot at him and destroyed his ship.
Just one thing, you haven't stated if the "victim" locked the U'K member using passive targeters or just locked him.
Note that most people who are pvp based are locked by someone, and not near a station or a gate, thats normally the sign of i'm going to attack you, so you give the universal greeting of low sec space (F1 - Fx.) It sounds like your corp mate, locked onto the U'K member and well they responded in the way they know how.
Hell if a manticore locked me, i know i'm not going to sit there and think... "ooo, i bet he's going to scan my cargo hold.."
"scotty, i need more power to warp out."
"i canna give yer any more captain, the dilithium crystal was nerfed this morning.. yer just gonna have ta face it, we've been ganked." |

Azrael Callidor
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Posted - 2005.05.12 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Badboyslb
The victim was coming to the system to scan his cargo when Pirat begunns to shot at him and destroyed his ship. So, the Members of the known Law Inforcing Alliance of the UK¦s are now acused to be Pirats and Thiefs.
I'll admit i've not heard the details firsthand from my associate but it appears you need to work on your "diplomacy".
A manticore pilot approaches a muninn in a complex to scan it's cargo, muninn pilot responds with a volley of artillery shells. Sounds sensible to me.
Stop pointing your expensive toys at dangerous people in insecure space and you will find you keep them longer...
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.05.12 06:16:00 -
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Go UK   
/me was under the impression locking (for whatever reason) is the equivilant of holding a sign saying "Yes I wish to fight" 
Typherin LaiDai Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5
'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant' |

Hella May
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Posted - 2005.05.12 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Typherin laidai Go UK   
/me was under the impression locking (for whatever reason) is the equivilant of holding a sign saying "Yes I wish to fight" 
Typherin LaiDai
Yes and its not the most intelligent thing to do to a bunch of muscle bound Minmatar warriors......
Let's get this straight, if a girl has to be "rescued" 10 times a week from a brothel shes not a damsel but a prostitute.
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.05.12 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hella May
Originally by: Typherin laidai Go UK   
/me was under the impression locking (for whatever reason) is the equivilant of holding a sign saying "Yes I wish to fight" 
Typherin LaiDai
Yes and its not the most intelligent thing to do to a bunch of muscle bound Minmatar warriors......
Depends what way you look at it :) you could also some them up as...
fairly unintelligent slave scum in re-fitted garbage cans 
Typherin LaiDai
Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5
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Rodge
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Posted - 2005.05.12 09:15:00 -
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If I was in a belt/complex/basically anywhere in low sec/0.0 and a ship comes in and moves towards me, then I'd assume he's hostile and prepare to fight.
If he locked me, that would just seal the deal and I'd certainly fire. But if he was within warp scrambling range, that would be enough justification for me.
I fought against U'K for a while and my impression of them was that they were a very honorable foe. I wouldn't look on them as pirates. They live in low sec, and low sec has different rules for survival than 0.5+.
Go U'K!!!
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Azrael Callidor
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Posted - 2005.05.12 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Typherin laidai
Depends what way you look at it :) you could also some them up as...
fairly unintelligent slave scum in re-fitted garbage cans 
Typherin LaiDai
Ahem. It's "sum them up" just FYI Also i personally use reprocessed drinks cans to make my ships 
If i didnt know better you appear to be making efforts recently to provoke a Matari response, too bad we're a friendly bunch at heart eh Typh
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Anjerrai Meloanis
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Posted - 2005.05.12 16:56:00 -
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To set this straight i was in the Muttokon system just going about doing this complex and pwning the rats, when i get to the second level and there a raven pilot there in the 33 cl's corp.. He gangs me and i say hi then he kicks me from the gang, so i just think fine and carry on doing what i was doing, killing the rats and looting. I then see him warp off after a bit. Then after a short period of time another raven pilot warped in with him and attacked me (the 33 cl's pilot didnt) so i retaliate and leg it to a planet as you do... Now as they both warped in at the same time i was thinking "Oh they must be in leage with each other" so i then went to the gate and saw Mr "Luso" sitting there... He then locks me in his manticore backing up my claims they were working together to get me so i fire at him and warp off while getting beaten up a bit by the sentry guns and ganking his ass :)
To be honest i acted on my instincts and at the time my instincts told me to pwn his ass... Another interesting fact is shown here..
Destroyed items:
Type: J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I (Fitted - Medium slot)
Type: 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Improved Cloaking Device II (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Hunter F.O.F. Cruise Missile I (Cargo) Quantity: 80
Type: Wrath Cruise Missile I (Cargo) Quantity: 74
Type: Dragon F.O.F. Cruise Missile I (Cargo) Quantity: 80
Type: Defender I (Cargo) Quantity: 781
Type: Micro Auxiliary Power Core I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters (Fitted - Medium slot)
Note the warp scrambler, "Oh my! i was only cargo scanning you" well thats just bs isnt it, lol... and if he wanted to jsut come and cargo scan me why he used a manticore i dont know, but not everyone can be clever..
Good day Luso 
Oh and he also petitioned me as an exploit user and said i was a GM, lol...
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.05.12 17:44:00 -
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Damn, and you people moved into my constellation, better hide my Fleet Issue Tempest...not.
~Sobe
Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss
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Johnny Johnny
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Posted - 2005.05.12 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Miner's Bane If you target someone in low-security space (like to oh, i dont know, scan their cargo) you will be shot by basically everyone.
And you deserve it. While locking isnt aggression in the eyes of CONCORD, it is an overtly hostile act.
Hey Miner, good to see you posting again.  -------------
Johnny Johnny
ItÆs not pirating! ItÆs non-consensual target practice.
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Nadija
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Posted - 2005.05.12 23:21:00 -
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Quote: by anj Oh and he also petitioned me as an exploit user
lol that guy callled it a exploit.... he was prolly just miffed that he lost a 90 mil ship that only had 10 mil insurance.
I don't blame u for shooting him either *is on anj's side*
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Badboyslb
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Posted - 2005.05.13 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: Badboyslb on 13/05/2005 02:40:35 It was a report guys!
After analizing the answers I can only say, the U¦Ks are with all his man-power here and defend his members, thats gentlemanlike, really good.
The point was not who shoots, but that the "honorable" U¦Ks Members of the Frigging Masters broke what the U¦Ks stand for. Who stells is tief, who attack is a Pirate.
Watching his answers I personly can only say: "next time shoot first Luso, than scan!"
(NOTE: Look what kind of Missil Luso have had in his cargo (Defenders, FOFs))*
*See
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.05.13 04:07:00 -
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I thought the "these people are pirates" posts were over for good since the term "piracy" is wider than Paris Hilton's crotch atm.
Since this is a video game then not all people think they have to keep good morals (i.e. don't shout random curse words for no reason or attack bypassers) and will just do whatever that's the most fun.
Five are pirates btw, Hast from Shinra stole 2 shuttles and 5000 tritanium from me and despite my repeated evemails he has not returned it to me. I hope he's very happy about it because I can't travel between mining zones anymore because of him. --------------------------------------
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.05.13 05:19:00 -
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Ok, I spent whole 10 seconds reading the post, tell me if I got it right.
Person #1 locks a U'K member in low sec with a manticore, the U'K member blows him up. Person #1's friend/corp member/associate comes on the forums and goes, "0mg U'K are pirats!!!!1111"
Did I miss something here or are you retarded?
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Minerva IV
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Posted - 2005.05.13 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Badboyslb Edited by: Badboyslb on 13/05/2005 02:40:35The point was not who shoots, but that the "honorable" U¦Ks Members of the Frigging Masters broke what the U¦Ks stand for. Who stells is tief, who attack is a Pirate.
Erm i would say that the agresor is actually the person who first locks, jesus if a manticore locked me it would be dying!
They have not broken anything that the U'K Stands for unless, and im sure im wrong here, that the U'K now stands for mugs and idiots who are going to let people target them - if you wanted to scan him for some reason why didnt you ask? and why on this earth were you doing it in a manticore?
Originally by: Badboyslb (NOTE: Look what kind of Missil Luso have had in his cargo (Defenders, FOFs))*
*See
Erm i also see Cruise missiles so what does this prove - infact to me it proves that he was set up to PvP! Looks to me as if you are annoyed as you were going to take a shot at this guy but he beat you too it.
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Toshiro Khan
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Posted - 2005.05.13 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Anjerrai Meloanis
Oh and he also petitioned me as an exploit user and said i was a GM, lol...
Can i petition this thread to have the name changed to "33cl's are carebears that cry spl0it when ganked."
It seems 33 cl's tried to trap a U'K member got caught out, lost and expencive toy and are now crying to try and ruin friggin' masters name with the U'K.
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Anjerrai Meloanis
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Posted - 2005.05.14 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Badboyslb
(NOTE: Look what kind of Missil Luso have had in his cargo (Defenders, FOFs))*
*See
"Type: Wrath Cruise Missile I (Cargo) Quantity: 74"
And wrath cruise missiles, so your point is very invalid..
On a side note it seems that 33 cl's have decided to claim the Angels Red Light District Complex in the Muttokon system and me killing the rats there and looting the rats that "I" killed myself was too much for them to take...
No matter what i say this guy seems to have a ridiculous claim that i did something else..
To clear this up, i ws doing a complex in the muttokon system, 2 ravens warp in (1 from the 33cl's corp), 1 locks me and shoots, i warp out to a planet, then go to a gate, see luso (from 33cl's), he locks me, i shoot then leg it to a planet...
Tbh i dont think anyone cares anyway.. And why you are posting with your alt luso i dont know...
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Ugleb
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Posted - 2005.05.14 15:35:00 -
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I'd love to know why a manticore is running around cargo scanning 'random' pilots in low sec space anyway.
For the record, we in the Friggin' Masters don't quite qualify as saints, and yes in the past some of us did a little pirating before we took up with the Ushra'Khan to fight the good fight. But I won't accept being branded thieves.
We will not raid your cans while you mine under concord 'protection'. We will not steal your loot from the rats you kill. If we take anything you consider 'yours' it will be after we fight you to get it.
Anjerrai was taking loot from rats SHE killed in that complex. Your ships locked onto HER ship. You were not attacked OR stolen from. Don't throw around words like 'thief' without good cause.
And to clarify, since the Friggin' Masters joined the Ushra'Khan, we have focused our efforts on fighting the imperialist Amarr, we have found a cause and we seek to uphold it. The past is behind us. Only the slavers and their cronies need fear us.
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Jacques Archambault
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Posted - 2005.05.14 16:17:00 -
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Please keep it friendly and constructive in here, thanks!

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tromatolya
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Posted - 2005.05.14 20:41:00 -
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this may not have much to do about who is right in this matter (alltough when i read all this, i say WAY 2 GO U'K ) .
just that i allways say, dont blame eachoter for stealing, RPG's are like cleptomania: if its not nailed/glued/wielded to the ground, its in your inventory
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FAR I
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Posted - 2005.05.15 00:49:00 -
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UK is not a pirate organization. In fact, they are apprecitated by many of the corps in the areas they inhabit. Your friend did something really stupid and lost his ship. Now you guys lower yourselves to whinning and calling names. I am not a thief, nor do I know of any instance of a UK member stealing anything. At least be a little more original in your attemps at spin.
I have flown with Friggin Masters and find them to be quite agreeable actually, and they dont whine when they lose a ship. You may wish to be more careful who you call a thief or dishonorable inaccuratly. Some of us take this very seriously.
>.<
F/\R
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Sarrow
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Posted - 2005.05.15 14:44:00 -
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im kinda new to this game...but it sounds like some one got owned and didnt like it.
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KanKan
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Posted - 2005.05.15 16:03:00 -
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Y'aarrrr
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Traxio Nacho
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Posted - 2005.05.16 01:46:00 -
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Just a question but why are u posting this with this charc? that isnt in the corp?
Just wondering.
Plus if someone locks you up in 0.4 or below most people will shoot and ask question later, and you cant blame them.
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