So from my limited knowledge of the game a bitter vet is someone who has

1. Had their gameplay style nerfed

2. Invested tons of time, isk and skill points into training for a ship only to see it nerfed and they believe that they have wasted that time and CCP will never refund their SP.


So were new Vets created when


1. Supercaps were nerfed after people spent a year perfecting them


2. Tengu pilots who spent a year perfecting that ship only to find out that they have been nerfed.



and the advice given is


1. CCP; spent six months training some else. just keep subbed.


2. Bitter vets "Cross train for everything as one day your favourite ship will be nerfed to death"



Question

1. Have any new bitter vets been created over this patch

2. Can you think of other times that bitter vets have been created.

3. As most players are caldari and the tengu is a viable option for a new player do you think that many will consider quitting as they have just spent there first year training for a ship that has been nerfed and they cannot be bothered to train for a different ship (before you say that it does not take long to train for another ship remember its not what you think its what they think)

My definition of bitter vet:

must be between 2003-2005 char

must have had a play style eclipsed several times

must have had their favourite ship eclipsed in role, forcing them to not fly it in favour of the new to keep competing (adds to the bitter!)

must have been very pro eve at one point

mainly just plays due to the "already invested this much" philosophy .



The first few changes to ships and stuff are normally all good and taken well, after the 13th change you are very.. really..again?
The year of the char for bitter vet requirement will go up by 1yr each year.

Would love to see the stats on the following.

Char ages: number created, number still playing, number of non sold chars in the same 2 previous to get a good understanding of how many Original bittervets are still with us :-)

I'm from 2006 and I share these feelings so I hereby demand to adjust your years

You're unsubbing at Christmas, remember?

bitter vet here

I dont mind new things, what i mind are nerfing old things.

seems like all they do now is nerf old things

Who needs content? We are creating the content!

I'm telling this to you after 6 years of EVE.

Who needs content? We are creating the content!

I'm telling this to you after 6 years of EVE.

So from my limited knowledge of the game a bitter vet is someone who has

1. Had their gameplay style nerfed

2. Invested tons of time, isk and skill points into training for a ship only to see it nerfed and they believe that they have wasted that time and CCP will never refund their SP.


So were new Vets created when


1. Supercaps were nerfed after people spent a year perfecting them


2. Tengu pilots who spent a year perfecting that ship only to find out that they have been nerfed.



and the advice given is


1. CCP; spent six months training some else. just keep subbed.


2. Bitter vets "Cross train for everything as one day your favourite ship will be nerfed to death"



Question

1. Have any new bitter vets been created over this patch

2. Can you think of other times that bitter vets have been created.

3. As most players are caldari and the tengu is a viable option for a new player do you think that many will consider quitting as they have just spent there first year training for a ship that has been nerfed and they cannot be bothered to train for a different ship (before you say that it does not take long to train for another ship remember its not what you think its what they think)

I transcended bittervetness when I finished my last T2 large weapon system.

Now that I can fly all Frigates, Cruisers, Battlecruisers, Battleships, AFs, Dictors, HACs, Logis and T3s at V, with any T2 weapon as required, I feel able to take a relaxed, holistic view of nerfs and just quietly sell ships that don't work any more and buy whatever does.

That makes you a vet, but not necessarily bitter.

Having 2823 posts on FHC however fully qualifies you for bittervet.

Oh wow...you rare ranked #4 on Evesearch- congratulations.

I know Tippia is #2.

Does anybody know who is #1 ?

I believe it's still Dark Shikarii even though he quit like 3 years ago.

Dude made a lot of posts...

Oh wow...you rare ranked #4 on Evesearch- congratulations.

I know Tippia is #2.

Does anybody know who is #1 ?

QFT

/Bittervet checking in

If you have to ask, you're not a bittervet.

I started back in 2006, I literally have to make new accounts every year/year and a half to stay interested.

No wonder I spent 80 hours this past month on Civilization V.

Also, the nullsec stagnation, anyone recalls back in 2008 when the CCP news were "big fleet XYZ meets big fleet ABC" all the time. And what about the big thefts, the big alliances sabotages... the news constantly talking about EvE. And now it's all gone.