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Sekh Ondaari
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.12.09 01:10:00 -
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As of right now Drunk 'n' Disorderly has entered a war with TIPIAKS. This as a direct result of their ongoing harassment of our and other militia members pilots. They have spent time trying to steal in on plexing yields and as of just recently started outright shooting our members.
We tried a war prior, they appologized and promised cease all agression, clearly they decided enough was enough and shot one of our calmest and down to earth pilots, Loren Gallen. After repeated attempts of resolving the issues peacefully AGAIN, they instead decided with poor insults. We reach them an olive branch, they reject it and keep shooting our members.
I would advice any and everyone else currently in the militia to take heed and mark them red. We don't know how and when they'll strike next, just that they want to cowardly hide behind the safety of common overview settings and gank those who least expect it. If anyone wants to join our war, I encourage you to. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2012.12.09 01:44:00 -
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Seems theres a lot of this going on at the moment, which is kind of a shame. As much as its an accepted tactic in null I still think its pretty much the height of lame, especially when all they seem to be using it for is to pad their killboard a bit.
Besides, if you're all shooting each other how are you going to get a good fleet together for us to shoot |
Aven DRELLS
TIPIAKS
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Posted - 2012.12.09 02:23:00 -
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I want to make an apologize in the name of all Tipiak coporation members, for the errore of one of us inexperiment player. I will continue in french. Nous sommes acctuellemt la corporation francophone active en Low sec
Seul ceux qui ne font rien font des erreures.
Nopus fleetons tous les soirs pour nous battre ( si tu tiens a tes vaisseaux ranges les chez grang-m+¿re) enfin bon nous ne sommes pas des enfants de coeurs, mais nous savons reconnaitre quand nous avons tord.
Mort au calda vive nous
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.12.09 02:45:00 -
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Please keep all posts in english so the rest of the community can read it. Thank you. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Swift Angels Alliance
655
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Posted - 2012.12.09 03:54:00 -
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Allow me to translate:
Quote:I want to make an apologize in the name of all Tipiak coporation members, for the errore of one of us inexperiment player. I will continue in french.
We are a French corporation who thought that we would join Gallente because it was space-French, to show Francophone solidarity in imaginary spaceships game. We set our flags to surrender and our safeties to pansy mode, but somewhere along the line we got confused. We do not understand the overview settings, and we set Roleplayer to red, so you can understand how we came to make the mistake of shooting a bunch of guys as we were just trying to retreat, not kill.
We wish to make amends, by shipping crates of Bordeaux to your spaceport. I promise, hand on my heart, we will not kill you again until next time we want to surrender. We also cannot countenance Russel Crowe playing that role in Les Mis. Really?
Vive la France.
viva trollslate.google.com
So, as you can see, it was an honest mistake, and they are crying tears of cheap bad-terroir wine, probably a 92 Bordeaux, which really was a bad year all round. Taking submissions for "Trinkets friendly Advice Column" via evemail or private convo in-game. Anonymity sorta guaranteed. http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
185
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Posted - 2012.12.09 05:25:00 -
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Make sure you set me red as well then, because it will not be long until I join the frog side of the war to give people a false sense of security around me and then awox them. I am currently in the process of building up a +10 standing corp just so that I will not be kicked out even going -10.
What goes around comes around. Now that the frogs are at the point Cal Mil was a few years back it is time to tear it all down, from the inside just like what happened to us. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac |
Sekh Ondaari
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.12.09 05:37:00 -
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Schalac wrote:Make sure you set me red as well then, because it will not be long until I join the frog side of the war to give people a false sense of security around me and then awox them. I am currently in the process of building up a +10 standing corp just so that I will not be kicked out even going -10.
What goes around comes around. Now that the frogs are at the point Cal Mil was a few years back it is time to tear it all down, from the inside just like what happened to us.
Can you please leave your off topic roleplaying out of this. This thread is about the resolution of a conflict between us and TIPIAKS. |
Antares 04
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.12.09 05:47:00 -
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Schalac wrote:Make sure you set me red as well then, because it will not be long until I join the frog side of the war to give people a false sense of security around me and then awox them. I am currently in the process of building up a +10 standing corp just so that I will not be kicked out even going -10.
What goes around comes around. Now that the frogs are at the point Cal Mil was a few years back it is time to tear it all down, from the inside just like what happened to us.
Your hatred is exquisite, and goes down easy with ketchup.
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Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2012.12.09 06:07:00 -
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Sekh Ondaari wrote:Schalac wrote:Make sure you set me red as well then, because it will not be long until I join the frog side of the war to give people a false sense of security around me and then awox them. I am currently in the process of building up a +10 standing corp just so that I will not be kicked out even going -10.
What goes around comes around. Now that the frogs are at the point Cal Mil was a few years back it is time to tear it all down, from the inside just like what happened to us. Can you please leave your off topic roleplaying out of this. This thread is about the resolution of a conflict between us and TIPIAKS. There is no resolution to this eternal war. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac |
Mich Farmer
Nasranite Watch Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.12.09 08:41:00 -
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Sekh Ondaari wrote:They have spent time trying to steal in on plexing yields and as of just recently started outright shooting our members.
So FW is about the iskies for you then? Quess that explains why another large entity is leaving Cal militia because of massive blueballs they always get from you lot. And enviroment stays as stagnant as it always been.
Also, why did SLAPD join DnD? FW is for "gay noobs" (their own words in Ostingele local). Irony is strong in this one. |
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Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
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Posted - 2012.12.09 09:10:00 -
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Schalac wrote:Make sure you set me red as well then, because it will not be long until I join the frog side of the war to give people a false sense of security around me and then awox them. I am currently in the process of building up a +10 standing corp just so that I will not be kicked out even going -10.
What goes around comes around. Now that the frogs are at the point Cal Mil was a few years back it is time to tear it all down, from the inside just like what happened to us.
Or you can hop from one alt corp to the other, like a true frog. Just write me a mail if you want to be in a Gallente/Minmatar corporation. Please note that after 6 days you will get kicked, no matter what. |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
377
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Posted - 2012.12.09 10:18:00 -
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Who the hell is Tipiaks? Gallente FW Blog http://iamsheriff.com/blog Recruitment Status: On C'est La Eve :) |
Bouh Revetoile
Barricade.
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Posted - 2012.12.09 11:59:00 -
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Sekh Ondaari wrote:As of right now Drunk 'n' Disorderly has entered a war with TIPIAKS. This as a direct result of their ongoing harassment of our and other militia members pilots. They have spent time trying to steal in on plexing yields and as of just recently started outright shooting our members.
We tried a war prior, they appologized and promised cease all agression, clearly they decided enough was enough and shot one of our calmest and down to earth pilots, Loren Gallen. After repeated attempts of resolving the issues peacefully AGAIN, they instead decided with poor insults. We reach them an olive branch, they reject it and keep shooting our members.
I would advice any and everyone else currently in the militia to take heed and mark them red. We don't know how and when they'll strike next, just that they want to cowardly hide behind the safety of common overview settings and gank those who least expect it. If anyone wants to join our war, I encourage you to. There's black ship in your side too : http://kill.eve-barricade.fr/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4745
Is the moral of the story "Don't do what we do" ? |
Sekh Ondaari
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:51:00 -
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Mich Farmer wrote:Sekh Ondaari wrote:They have spent time trying to steal in on plexing yields and as of just recently started outright shooting our members. So FW is about the iskies for you then? Quess that explains why another large entity is leaving Cal militia because of massive blueballs they always get from you lot. And enviroment stays as stagnant as it always been. Also, why did SLAPD join DnD? FW is for "gay noobs" (their own words in Ostingele local). Irony is strong in this one.
FW is for instant gratification, we enjoy the low-risk pvp as much as the next guy.
I... don't know of any massive blueballs in caldari militia for the last couple of months or maybe even years(I admitably did not count the days). If there ever was one, they must've hid well. Well I suppose NCdo... I mean happy endings did have fleets up in mid USTZ once or twice, props to them, and I'm sad to say we simply don't have the manpower around to take those fights regularily. |
Super Chair
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2012.12.09 16:31:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Who the hell is Tipiaks?
Tipiaks are scholars and gentlemen. |
Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone Ironworks Coalition
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Posted - 2012.12.09 17:23:00 -
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Sekh Ondaari wrote:clearly they decided enough was enough and shot one of our calmest and down to earth pilots, Loren Gallen. Uh huh. The Gaming MoD - retro to modern, console to MMO, I blog about it if it's a game and I'm interested in it. Yes, I play games other than Eve and I don't care if you think I'm wrong. |
Sekh Ondaari
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.12.09 17:48:00 -
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Versuvius Marii wrote:Sekh Ondaari wrote:clearly they decided enough was enough and shot one of our calmest and down to earth pilots, Loren Gallen. Uh huh.
Loren is by far one of the chillest guys I know in EVE. I mean we have plenty of spazes that I could understand people getting annoyed with and wanting to shoot for :whatever: reason(Not that I'd necessarily like or condone it, but I could atleast understand the motives behind it). I've yet to hear ANYONE dislike Loren for any personal reasons.
He's the guy who violates you in a back alley, and you STILL leave the alley with a smile. He's the guy that sleeps with your husband, and you still invite him for cookies and milk. He's personally the one to blame for the hot climate in mexico, he stole all the cool.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
665
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Posted - 2012.12.09 21:22:00 -
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Schalac wrote:There is no resolution to this eternal war. Give us a couple months. |
Mich Farmer
Nasranite Watch Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.12.09 21:52:00 -
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Sekh Ondaari wrote:I've yet to hear ANYONE dislike Loren for any personal reasons.
I dislike him for simple fact he is gallente and belongs to an alliance who wants me dead irl. Good enough for you?
Or perhaps I simply dislike him because I see him as another no-risk pilot out in kiting boat in snake clone with OGB* and wonder why people go ooh-aah over him supposedly being a cool guy and second coming of Alexander the Great.
*This applies to about 100% of DnD |
Bouh Revetoile
Barricade.
187
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Posted - 2012.12.09 22:03:00 -
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Sekh Ondaari wrote:Not at all, as you should be aware this kill was in direct relation to your guys running around ganking our alts - intentionally. You are misinformed. That wasn't intentional.
And if you need to ask for any T3 ship you want to gank, you wont gank a lot of them... Neutral alt are neutral to anyone but those on com most of the time.
And there wasn't any T3 kill in the end, though these psychopath killed 3 militia BC to "retaliate"...
I don't know about this story, but I tend to take these militia clash with care when it involve Drunk'n Disorderly. As I said, there is black sheep in your side too... |
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Sekh Ondaari
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.12.09 22:59:00 -
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Bouh Revetoile wrote: You are misinformed. That wasn't intentional.
And if you need to ask for any T3 ship you want to gank, you wont gank a lot of them... Neutral alt are neutral to anyone but those on com most of the time.
And there wasn't any T3 kill in the end, though these psychopath killed 3 militia BC to "retaliate"...
I don't know about this story, but I tend to take these militia clash with care when it involve Drunk'n Disorderly. As I said, there is black sheep in your side too...
Absolutely. Never claimed we never do mistakes. This was however not a mistake. Your guys toyed with the booster, was told it was friendly. Backed off, reshiped and tried to alpha it instead. That you failed to do so isn't really an excuse.
We have plenty of black sheep, plenty of people who overreac, plenty of people who jump to conclusions. Loren is not one of them. Even so, I wouldn't have gone to this length of warning people had not other chimed up that they too have had issues with the corp at hand. Regardless, it's not about throwing the first rock, it's about minimizing casualties to silly game mechanics and misplaced trust casued by said mechanics. |
Abyssum Invocat
Justified Chaos
44
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Posted - 2012.12.09 23:32:00 -
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I poured through TIPIAK's killboard last night when I heard about this and didn't see any awoxing this month. I don't know if I missed something but I'd appreciate some of these incidents being linked. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
665
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:01:00 -
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I see TIPIAKS fighting for the Gallente in Heydieles and Fliet all the time. This dispute likely similar to the many "misunderstandings" between a Gallente Militia entity and SoTF that probably ought to be resolved between themselves.
Any Gallente militia pilot including any pilot in TIPIAKS is welcome to come into my plex and help me defend it.
If anything, I'm sure TIPIAK's transgressions against Gallente militia pilots (they are likely only against SoTF) are small compared to those done by SoTF in the past. And if we can continually give SoTF the "benefit of a doubt", then I'm sure we can give TIPIAKS some leeway here and let them resolve their dispute with SoTF without the rest of Gallente militia piling on them.
Just my opinion. I'm sure there are others out there who think SoTF needs all the help they can get against entities that can't use titan bridges. |
Sekh Ondaari
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:12:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:I see TIPIAKS fighting for the Gallente in Heydieles and Fliet all the time. This dispute likely similar to the many "misunderstandings" between a Gallente Militia entity and SoTF that probably ought to be resolved between themselves.
Any Gallente militia pilot including any pilot in TIPIAKS is welcome to come into my plex and help me defend it.
If anything, I'm sure TIPIAK's transgressions against Gallente militia pilots (they are likely only against SoTF) are small compared to those done by SoTF in the past. And if we can continually give SoTF the "benefit of a doubt", then I'm sure we can give TIPIAKS some leeway here and let them resolve their dispute with SoTF without the rest of Gallente militia piling on them.
Just my opinion. I'm sure there are others out there who think SoTF needs all the help they can get against entities that can't use titan bridges.
We tried resolving it in private, they resulted to personal attacks and insults. We tried resolving it through a wardec - if we don't lose standings when defending ourselves, there's no problem. Their response was blatant lies in militia chat, which just prompted others to chime in explaining that it wasn't directed at us.
Their CEO convoed me to explain that they would refuse to apologize and reimburse evne the last of their victims, and that they were proud of shooting the federation. This is why one of their members stepped up to apologize in his place.
It's not about any benefit of doubt, it's me saying this is what we're doing, this is why we're doing it. Other chimed in that they wanted to be part of it, so we made it public. This is me giving them a chance to simply say they're sorry and let us all move on. Like I've repeatedly stated, I'd be happy to share logs of me repeatedly talking to them, both in text and in voice. ALL we've been asking from start to end is that we go back to the status quo we had prior to the harassment. I'm far from trying to be unreasonable.
If you have a better course of action than to ask for them to reimburse the losses they cause and move on, by all means do tell. If you think it's unreasonable to ask for a public apology after their public insults and humiliation - say that. There's nothing to doubt, there's nothing to guess, I'm saying anything and everything I can about it, and it's really not that complicated. But by all means, do tell if there's anything more you want to know. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
665
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:49:00 -
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You're free to do what is in your best interests. As is everybody else.
All I can say is that TIPIAKS has not attacked any other entity in Gallente militia (so far) and that they have been actively fighting for the Gallente militia since they have been in FW.
If other militia corporations want to pile on TIPIAKS on the side of SoTF, then they're gonna pile on.
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Luscar Seneca
Dark Circle Enforcement Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:58:00 -
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I'm thinking Sotf should stop taking the tipiak lies. Rain ogb fire on them and start a civil war. Here's to hoping cheers! |
Penguizaur
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2012.12.10 12:52:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote: All I can say is that TIPIAKS has not attacked any other entity in Gallente militia (so far) and that they have been actively fighting for the Gallente militia since they have been in FW.
They attacked my vagabond after I killed a neutral miner who was supposedly an alt of theirs when I was in [PCINT] (they did not communicate this to me before the engagement). Being purple to me let them get hard tackle quite easily, since they aren't on my overview and I had no reason to suspect hostile purples. I tried to get them to stop shooting while tanking him for a really long time (XL-ASB mega resist vaga), and finally just had to give the OK for my folks to undock and blow him up.
I've seen corpies get shot at by SOTF as well back before we were blue, but there usually was a more logical reason for it than "you unknowingly killed my neutral mining alt in low sec, so I will kill this friendly vagabond to punish you"
-P |
Penguizaur
Justified Chaos
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 13:23:00 -
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Hehe just to be clear, I am not advocating anything, nor do I represent the opinions of JUSTK
That post was purely my experience in a tiny tiny corp that consisted of just me and some inactive RL friends, and I had the feeling that I was only engaged because it didn't look like I had any backup/friends/diplomatic ties.
I would like to add that TIPIAKS did however state that they weren't aware of the rules and that this wouldn't happen again. However, what this means is a bit hazy, as I thought it was clear that "neutral" means I can shoot or not shoot you depending on my mood as we have no relations whatsoever. Purple is supposed to mean ally as far as I know. |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2012.12.10 16:45:00 -
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Okay, I'm locking this thread.
Reasoning is as follows :
- If you guys have issues with eachother in game, keep them in game.
- If you feel you are being harassed, file a harassment petition. Coming to the forums to troll will not solve the issue.
- If you want to settle your differences with a war, do so in game and shoot the hell out of eachother.
- Don't let your out of character animosity overflow onto the forums and lead to trolling and flaming here.
- Finally, don't re-open this topic. It's been locked for a reason.
Again, I'll reiterate. If you feel you're being harassed in game, file a petition.
The forums is not the place to resolve this.
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