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Delphineas Fumimasa
Overpowered Noobs
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Posted - 2012.12.09 05:04:00 -
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Is there any interest in or plans for another railgun ship? It's a little disappointing to me that Caldaris second weapon system is railguns (supposedly) and yet the Rokh is their only turret BS. Of the 5 pirate factions, one is hybrid, with a stasis webifier bonus.
Basically, I PVE, like railguns, and am bummed that my "progression" stops at the Rokh. Missiles bored my. |

Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.09 05:12:00 -
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Railguns are pretty unpopular right now, they can get ridiculous range especially on caldari ships but the dps is kinda subpar.
You could always look into the Eagle, the caldari turret HAC. It has a double optimal range bonus, so it's not that popular, but it's an option. |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2012.12.09 05:13:00 -
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Delphineas Fumimasa wrote:Is there any interest in or plans for another railgun ship? It's a little disappointing to me that Caldaris second weapon system is railguns (supposedly) and yet the Rokh is their only turret BS. Of the 5 pirate factions, one is hybrid, with a stasis webifier bonus.
Basically, I PVE, like railguns, and am bummed that my "progression" stops at the Rokh. Missiles bored my.
Eagle..
Also the Rokh is boss enough to cover the rest. |

Akuma Tsukai
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.09 06:06:00 -
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May be fly gallente? Ya know, they actually do you hybrids too  |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
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Posted - 2012.12.09 07:12:00 -
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Naga also uses large sized railguns. Besides that, do what I did: crosstrain to gallente, gives you plenty ore railgun ships, though it does require you to learn armor tanking and drone skills. |

Bouh Revetoile
Barricade.
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Posted - 2012.12.09 11:28:00 -
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Caldari ship are better with railguns than gallente ones most of the time. |

Nieccole
Ex Caminus
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:12:00 -
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Going to have to agree with this one.
I guess I'm weird, but I love my Rokh and while I've used other weapon systems when I had to, there's just something awesome about railguns as a concept that I find terribly awesome.
Was soooo nonplussed to come back after a three year hiatus to find out our Marauder was a missile boat. I remember the days when the Caldari were rail kings. Nowadays though, it's like the devs forgot about rails altogether and decided to foist missiles on us.
I'd give up a major organ to have a T2/T3/faction/Marauder version of the Rokh. In fact, I might go so far as to give up other people's major organs. |

Kasutra
Tailor Company Hashashin Cartel
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:25:00 -
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Delphineas Fumimasa wrote:Is there any interest in or plans for another railgun ship? It's a little disappointing to me that Caldaris second weapon system is railguns (supposedly) and yet the Rokh is their only turret BS. Of the 5 pirate factions, one is hybrid, with a stasis webifier bonus.
Basically, I PVE, like railguns, and am bummed that my "progression" stops at the Rokh. Missiles bored my. T2 + railgun + BS = Kronos.
And no, that webbing bonus doesn't make it a bad rail boat by any means. The Kronos is better off rail fit than blaster fit in most missions. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:47:00 -
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Delphineas Fumimasa wrote:Is there any interest in or plans for another railgun ship? It's a little disappointing to me that Caldaris second weapon system is railguns (supposedly) and yet the Rokh is their only turret BS. Of the 5 pirate factions, one is hybrid, with a stasis webifier bonus.
Basically, I PVE, like railguns, and am bummed that my "progression" stops at the Rokh. Missiles bored my.
Nagas are awesome. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |

It'sNotMyFaultYourMother ThrewYouAway
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:58:00 -
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Second that, Naga is more fun than Rook any day. |

Jakob Anedalle
Beelzebub Corp
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Posted - 2012.12.09 23:08:00 -
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I've been focused Gallente but I'm just getting to the point that I'm interested to cross-train to Caldari for their hybrid ships too. Yeah, it means learning Shield tanking but I figure I should learn that anyway for the ever-popular shield-tanked Gallente gankboats. Maybe I'm silly for avoiding the missile skills, but I'm just not looking forward to grinding up a new skill chain for weapons when I could be learning other things.
It's either that or cross-train to Amarr to capitalize on armor tanking but learn the lasers and see if they are as fun for the lightshow as people say...  Trying out all the things to do here in Eve - it's quite a checklist. |

Kookman
Bastion 437
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Posted - 2012.12.10 10:55:00 -
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Delphineas Fumimasa wrote:Is there any interest in or plans for another railgun ship? It's a little disappointing to me that Caldaris second weapon system is railguns (supposedly) and yet the Rokh is their only turret BS. Of the 5 pirate factions, one is hybrid, with a stasis webifier bonus.
Basically, I PVE, like railguns, and am bummed that my "progression" stops at the Rokh. Missiles bored my.
If you want to use Railguns effectively for PvE then you have chosen the wrong race for the job.
Gallente ships with tracking bonus make far better rail platforms.
They have better mobility for kiting, more lows for tracking enhancers and mag stabs and the inherent tracking bonus allows them to even deal with frigates even with 425mm Railguns if you know the basics of sniping - kiting.
In PvE you will rarely if ever need to shoot over 100km which is a range that you will easily achieve even with antimatter with 425mm Railguns II on a Talos - Thron - Kronos. |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2012.12.10 12:16:00 -
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Naga's should be fit with Neutron Blasters - 1229 dps like a boss COME AT ME BRO
I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION |

Maeltstome
The Burning Red
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Posted - 2012.12.10 13:59:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Naga's should be fit with Neutron Blasters - 1229 dps like a boss
And unlike ships with no range bonus, thats achievable outside of the other ships airlock. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5439
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:20:00 -
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It'sNotMyFaultYourMother ThrewYouAway wrote:Second that, Naga is more fun than Rook any day.
And it looks boss as ****
(Rokh is pretty good but Naga is just fantastic) MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |

Delphineas Fumimasa
Overpowered Noobs
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Posted - 2012.12.15 03:11:00 -
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Yeah, well, Naga enter level 4 and gets insta popped.
Gallente almost exclusively armor tanks.
Right now I am running with 2 friends, who went minmatar. So we are just skilling up and trying to figure out what to do.
I like the Rokh, one of the better looking caldari ships. But it feels a little too slow and squishy. (Hate fighting angel BSs for instance.) And now that I'm a week away from tech 2 rails, it looks like my fit is all wrong.
[Rokh, Pillar of Autumn] Tracking Enhancer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
X-Large Shield Booster II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400 Federation Navy Tracking Computer EM Ward Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II
Federation Navy 425mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L Federation Navy 425mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L Federation Navy 425mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hornet II x4 Vespa II x2
I run into cpu and pg issues going up to 425 tIIs. which has me wondering what might be off on this mission fit.
Would take 80 days to train for this: [Vulture, Level 4] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Power Diagnostic System II
EM Ward Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 10MN Afterburner II
250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Heavy Missile 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M 250mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge M
Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Hornet II x5
One friend will probably go BS, said the machirel looks sexy. it only has 297 firepower, and 211 defense. Is that high or low for a passive speed tank. is 365 too slow for that end?
I would love some help with these builds. I have also toyed with just setting up the rokh for incursion, if i ever do any, and switching to a CNR/Navy scorp. But only 444k sp on missiles.....more missile skills might make missiles less boring. |

Cambarus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.15 03:59:00 -
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Delphineas Fumimasa wrote: Gallente almost exclusively armor tanks.
Not if they're any good they don't. |

Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
203
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Posted - 2012.12.15 06:45:00 -
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Jakob Anedalle wrote:I've been focused Gallente but I'm just getting to the point that I'm interested to cross-train to Caldari for their hybrid ships too. Yeah, it means learning Shield tanking but I figure I should learn that anyway for the ever-popular shield-tanked Gallente gankboats. Maybe I'm silly for avoiding the missile skills, but I'm just not looking forward to grinding up a new skill chain for weapons when I could be learning other things. It's either that or cross-train to Amarr to capitalize on armor tanking but learn the lasers and see if they are as fun for the lightshow as people say... 
the Nightmare is pretty awesome .. Caldari/Amarr BS both required the Rattlesnake is really good ... Caldari/Gallente BS both required
the rattlesnake will complement your existing gallente ship/drone training you could stop at the Gila (the cruiser) which can use Hvy Missiles, and it still has the 400m3 dronebay and 125mb bandwidth though as they are unbonused the damage from the missiles is mostly cosmetic 
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