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Vandy ColdStone
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.06 18:02:00 -
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1. The retriever is not going to make you anywhere near 5mil an hour. Mine for 12 hours straight, solo, in high sec, take your total money made and divide it. I'm almost positive it will be much less than 5mil / hour. (In high sec of course)
2. The hulk fit he described is glass as well. It's stronger than a retriever but that fit he described isn't very amazing. I dont fly a hulk unless it has at least 18k EHP. Thats just me though. No reason for you to do that unless you go in expecting to be ganked. Which happens alot it seems.
3. A Rokh will outmine a retriever by a long shot. It can't keep up with a hulk, but it is definitely better than a retriever.
4. I would suggest finding someone you can mine with, and they pay you to mine. That way your bits stay running constant and they will haul out of the field for you. I know several people that do that. Also - look around the forums, you will probably find a few.
Hope I helped. Fly safe. |
Vandy ColdStone
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.07 01:11:00 -
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Dalloway Jones wrote:Vandy ColdStone wrote:
3. A Rokh will outmine a retriever by a long shot. It can't keep up with a hulk, but it is definitely better than a retriever.
Hope I helped. Fly safe.
How much does a Rokh cost vs. a Retriever?
Depends where you shop. It's cheaper than a hulk. I want to say around 130mil? I haven't looked at the market on them in months. But if you dont want to lose ship/fittings its worth it.
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Vandy ColdStone
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.07 01:57:00 -
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Flurk Hellbron wrote:
How do you lose a Hulk while mining in 0.5 - 1.0 space?
It costs about 400mil.
Got no idea what the time difference would be training for Rokh versus Hulk.
By getting ganked. 4 pilots with battleships and smartbombs can destroy pretty much any hulk no matter the tank.
A hulk is about 180mil in Jita at the moment. 180-200mil. I'd say maybe 220 with fittings?
And a rokh is just a battleship. I think you only need to train Caldari Battleship to 3.
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Vandy ColdStone
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.07 02:31:00 -
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Flurk Hellbron wrote:
Ur Rokh gonna survive that kinda gank? Guess not and........ never heard of that sort of ganking in hi sec.
And a cargo hold :
Capacity
625 m3 ain't what a miner needs, so he has to use GSC's or jet cans, thus a second ship to haul the ore........
I think a retriever beats ur rokh in mining effectively in isk/hour.
1 step further and ur in a covetor.............
Yes - a rokh would survive it. I have a mining rokh set up with 130k EHP.
And just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Feel free to continue losing countless retrievers though if that suits your fancy. Im only trying to help.
I have been actively mining since '08. Am I the best? Of course not. But I run more than one account, yes this includes a hauler. Yes it DOES beat a solo retriever all day backwards and sleeping. And your covetor is just as squishy as a retriever.
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Vandy ColdStone
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.07 14:15:00 -
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The way I understood it, was he was losing many retrievers through silly mistakes. Your not going to lose a rokh through a silly mistake. You wouldn't lose a hulk either unless it was a REALLY stupid mistake, or a gank.
I run all hulks. All day every day. I was simply suggesting the rokh because I know with a hauler, it will pull faster overall than a retriever will, and has a tank so he wont lose it. Thats more so what I was getting at. And if he is into missioning / PvPing he can probably already fly a Rokh.
I never said it out pulled a coveter, but fit right it WILL out pull a retriever. Was in no means to be an argument of any sort. Just stating what I have learned over the years of trying different things.
Fly safe guys, God Bless. |
Vandy ColdStone
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.07 19:29:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Getting into a mackinaw and mining blue ice in Gallente space is definitely the way to go.
Must... resist... the cheeks...
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Vandy ColdStone
School of Applied Knowledge
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