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knpomgwtf
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Posted - 2005.05.13 22:06:00 -
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Hey!
First of all, to get it out of the way first, yes I am an alt. I'm probably a bit over-paranoid here and it doesn't really even concern that much isk, but still I'd just prefer to remain anonymous.
Anyhow - I have about 700 million isk to spend. Now, you must know that I'm a PvP'er and have zilch science, industry or trade skills. I focused myself completely on skills that affected my ship and (combat) equipment. This boils down to me buying a lot of expensive goodies for a week, and then all the isk is gone. Poof. That says something about my "mAd sk1llz" huh? :p
So that leaves me with one other option (actually there is another one, which is donating all of the amount, but I'm a capitalist... I can't help it ;)): turning it into more isk! 8)
My question is how? How in the galaxy can I make my 700 mill into, say, a billion isk? I want something that will guarantee me an income for a while, so I need something that sells well over the day, like a Crow. But I - not even remotely - am not worth anywhere near the price of it's BPO yet... so that's a downer.
Do you have any ideas or suggestions on how I could invest my isk into something that will either increase the amount or give me an over-time income? I would appreciate it very much if you could provide some input.
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Takrolimus
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Posted - 2005.05.13 22:08:00 -
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send it all to the charachter "Takrolimus" and youll get 2billion within 2 weeks or a note of apology.
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knpomgwtf
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Posted - 2005.05.13 22:12:00 -
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That wouldn't even be such a bad idea at all, somebody should start making isk for others.
Like, somebody invests 1 billion in this guy, he turns it into 1.2 billion, and keeps a small share as a fee. You, sir, are full of brilliant ideas.
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MutationZ
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Posted - 2005.05.13 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: knpomgwtf That wouldn't even be such a bad idea at all, somebody should start making isk for others.
Like, somebody invests 1 billion in this guy, he turns it into 1.2 billion, and keeps a small share as a fee. You, sir, are full of brilliant ideas.
In that case, give it to me. I'll turn it into 3 billion or give you a sincere letter of apology.
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Naverin
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Posted - 2005.05.13 22:20:00 -
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Buy Scorpion BPO. put in lab somewhere... Research to 15ME then set to copy indefinatly.. once a month setup excrows for copies... Guranteed 50-100 mill a month for doing nothing but spending isk. granted its a very long term investment.
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.05.13 22:21:00 -
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Speculation is the key, buy stuff that will most likely increase in value over time due to inflation, nerfbattage etc.
Sell stuff that will likely decrease in value
I made some good isk simply by buying stuff cheep on escrow and re-listing it higher, the trick is to spot a good "bargain"
Jim.
Death to the Galante |

knpomgwtf
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Posted - 2005.05.13 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Naverin Buy Scorpion BPO. put in lab somewhere... Research to 15ME then set to copy indefinatly.. once a month setup excrows for copies... Guranteed 50-100 mill a month for doing nothing but spending isk. granted its a very long term investment.
That is true, and it does sound like a good idea. Yet as you said, I hate the "very long term" part. :)
You know, I was more or less thinking about buying a scientist character here on the boards, let it run level 4 research missions after training up lab management and stuff, and then hope for a BPO. I know, that's maybe even a longer term investment, but generally if you get a BPO, you will be selling stuff that a lot of people want with a pretty good profit margin.
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knpomgwtf
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Posted - 2005.05.13 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Steele Speculation is the key, buy stuff that will most likely increase in value over time due to inflation, nerfbattage etc.
Sell stuff that will likely decrease in value
I made some good isk simply by buying stuff cheep on escrow and re-listing it higher, the trick is to spot a good "bargain"
Jim.
That also is a very good idea :)
I coincidentally did that today, saw a XLarge C5-L on escrow for 12 mill. Took it, and resold it for 16.5 :p
But I wonder if these bargains are rare, or are they commonplace...
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.05.13 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Steele on 13/05/2005 22:33:44 As for buying a science character id advise against that since its very hard to get a BPO, ive been researching for 1year now and nothing , ok if you win the jackpot its cool but producing the stuff is also alot of work and id rather be blowing stuff up.
As for the "bargains" on escrow, true they dont happen very often but its worth keeping an eye out for a shrewd investment, incidently i know someone who bought a ferox for 2mil from escrow, im sure mistakes like that happen quite frequently.
Good luck tho,
Death to the Galante |

TekRa
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Posted - 2005.05.13 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: knpomgwtf
Originally by: Jim Steele Speculation is the key, buy stuff that will most likely increase in value over time due to inflation, nerfbattage etc.
Sell stuff that will likely decrease in value
I made some good isk simply by buying stuff cheep on escrow and re-listing it higher, the trick is to spot a good "bargain"
Jim.
That also is a very good idea :)
I coincidentally did that today, saw a XLarge C5-L on escrow for 12 mill. Took it, and resold it for 16.5 :p
But I wonder if these bargains are rare, or are they commonplace...
Quite common afaik, I usually put stuff on escrow below the average price just to shift it faster, there's nothing I hate more than having to travel all over the place just to sell crap. so if you buy it cheap, fair enuf, i just cant wait for my isk :)
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.05.13 23:05:00 -
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What if you bought a bunch of rare items at cut price and used your wits to sell them on? I have a proposal to this effect. Drop me a line in-game and I'll give you the details.
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GigaIndy
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Posted - 2005.05.13 23:08:00 -
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Contact my ingame, I can tell you some really good techniques. Perfer not to notify all of eve though :)
All of money comes from investing. I do little if any work anymore :)
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Diziet DeWar
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Posted - 2005.05.14 01:14:00 -
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You could invest it at Meta-Baron's Casino - 
Visit the casino at www.e-games.com |

Noriath
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Posted - 2005.05.14 01:30:00 -
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Give it to me.
I will spend it on hookers and don't apologize.
... hey, at least I'm honest 
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Kade Shaderow
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Posted - 2005.05.14 03:43:00 -
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Edited by: Kade Shaderow on 14/05/2005 03:46:30 This already exists, though not institutionalized by the game. The only way it CAN get institutionalized by CCP is if they implement publicly traded companies.
Some people I know have created a very impressive custom investment system, though.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2005.05.14 03:49:00 -
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You could buy a Raven with nice mods and go do missions, then sell the modules once you've had enough. That requires combat skills and standings though.
How did you aquire the ISK in the first place?
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Con'Mal
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Posted - 2005.05.14 05:09:00 -
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His mom had a good night at Bingo and ebay'd for him
"The race is not [always] to the swift, nor the battle to the strong." |

Aitrus
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Posted - 2005.05.14 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: knpomgwtf That wouldn't even be such a bad idea at all, somebody should start making isk for others.
Like, somebody invests 1 billion in this guy, he turns it into 1.2 billion, and keeps a small share as a fee. You, sir, are full of brilliant ideas.
Anyone else here remember Morbor's little investment project?
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Kade Shaderow
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Posted - 2005.05.14 05:23:00 -
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Yulai Financial we hardly knew ye
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2005.05.14 08:42:00 -
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Nothing really will get you billions quickly. You got to find something to invest in and wait for a payout. You could always be cool and do this. I would use the "Image" of 700 million to my advantage. Someone comes up to me and flaunts his wallet, I know he is a high roller. Sure I wouldn't mind you in my corp either. So maybe that can give you some influence to show off your fat sack to get your way into "Medium" corps to move up the foodchain real quick. Just so you can raid there corp hangers and sell there loot.
Famine Aligher'ri, of The Aligher'ri -The Frig- |

SlaneeshZ
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Posted - 2005.05.14 11:03:00 -
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In case of doubt send it to the player "EVE System". ---- A true player does feel no need to remind himself or fellow players that it is just a game. |

Kresh Vladir
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Posted - 2005.05.14 11:06:00 -
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go play some lottery
I CLAIM JITA
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2005.05.14 11:07:00 -
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700M, its alot of isk but in reality you are very limited in your investment possibilities.
The thing is that tehre are in reality very few investment possibilities in EvE, sure you can buy a BPO and start farming it but from your post I dont peg you as a producer or researcher thus it will inefficient for you to try to make the isk back fast.
Naturally you could play the market but to find goods with a good return in that range of isk is hard and again I dont see you as the type that would enjoy hopping into a hauler and start shipping stuff.
That leaves high risk investments.
Basicly what we are talking about here is that you start investing in items that are very expensive such as BS's, uber loot and LP reward requirement stuff such as nexus chips and tags. This however requires you to know the market, no point in buying a sansha module for 200M only to find its real worth is 180M. The only way to learn how much modules are really worth is to constantly play the market, preferably you should keep records of how the prices vary so that you can not only know what stuff is worth but you can actually predict how the price will move.
EvE is imensly impressive in this aspect, CCP have actually managed to create a fully working player ecconomy.
As you are a PvP/combat oriented pilot I however doubt any of the above would suit you or your gamestyle, in reality making large amounts of isk will always require one of two things, 1: Work 2: Time
Ither you can put in the work or you can set upp corectly and wait for the money to roll in slowly. Both however require knowledge.
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Jaisan
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Posted - 2005.05.14 11:10:00 -
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Spend the 700m on hiring merc's to hold capturable refining stations in carebear places like Curse / Scalding Pass.
Should bring in the billions. 
Just too orangey for crows. |

knpomgwtf
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Posted - 2005.05.14 12:00:00 -
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Thank you so much for the useful replies. I'll keep you updated on my progress. :)
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Raindrop
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Posted - 2005.05.14 12:06:00 -
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Buy 2 mill nocx and resell. Raindrop
Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
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knpomgwtf
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Posted - 2005.05.14 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kade Shaderow Edited by: Kade Shaderow on 14/05/2005 03:46:30 This already exists, though not institutionalized by the game. The only way it CAN get institutionalized by CCP is if they implement publicly traded companies.
Some people I know have created a very impressive custom investment system, though.
Can you help me out with some names?
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Larno
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Posted - 2005.05.14 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Larno on 14/05/2005 15:54:54
Originally by: Jaisan Spend the 700m on hiring merc's to hold capturable refining stations in carebear places like Curse / Scalding Pass.
Should bring in the billions. 
WTB: Location of conquerable stations in Curse region.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.05.14 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Takrolimus send it all to the charachter "Takrolimus" and youll get 2billion within 2 weeks or a note of apology.
Thank you so much for that, I've managed to burn the inside of my NOSE now after laughing so hard with a mouthful of hot tea 
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |
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