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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.11 18:50:00 -
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Funny how the Mayan Long Count Calendar has ended many many times every 394 years and begun again without consequence.
But I guess scientifically enlightened 21st Century folks are Special, doncha know ? RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:33:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote: But i'm not completely ruling out the possibility some crazy looking giant carrying a jug will appear along with dragons vomiting columns of water all over the place.
That seems like it may be super-cool, but then upon second thought, probably not.
Let me just say I spent my childhood and teen years dreading 1988 as that was when we were all supposed to be Raptured (my father and grandfather were extreme Baptists).
Good Lord. I did not believe it, but there was always that internal 'what if?'.
edit: i cannnt tyoe tday RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:49:00 -
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Eli Green wrote:Since nothing will happen, I present the numbers of doomsday: 7500 suicides 18750 divorces 12320 marriages 2490000 nudists running amok 100 riots 1040590210 conceptions 1 stock market crash 6000000000 searches of "how to escape the end of the world?" on google
Other notes:
Congress comes to a decision on tax raises and spending cuts Greece starts to make an economic recovery Twitter and Facebook receive record amounts of traffic ConAgra and Kraft have their most profitable days ever
...and the last Twinkie eaten. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.11 21:36:00 -
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Clicked with much trepidation. Came away happy  RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:16:00 -
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When the 'Dinosaur Asteroid' wiped out pretty much everything, there was not even a Mayan Calendar, obviously.
It is not required for a disaster to occur.
Anyone who even begins to see a connection with near randomly designed time-keeping constructs of the ancients as having some kind of predictive power towards absolutely natural forces of the cosmos is not sound of mind, and needs to be walked away from slowly, quietly. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:42:00 -
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Living in near rural Arkansas as a child, I remember several times driving by houses with 30-40 cars parked in yard, backyard, up and down both sides of the highway.
They were all gathering for the expected Rapture.
After about 6 months or so it would finally break up and disappear.
Not a real productive way to conduct one's life. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.12 18:53:00 -
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Borascus wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:When the 'Dinosaur Asteroid' wiped out pretty much everything, there was not even a Mayan Calendar, obviously.
It is not required for a disaster to occur.
Anyone who even begins to see a connection with near randomly designed time-keeping constructs of the ancients as having some kind of predictive power towards absolutely natural forces of the cosmos is not sound of mind, and needs to be walked away from slowly, quietly. Other than debunked Nazca..... So anyways, Astronomy is a calendar / roadmap / circuit / Formula 1 Racetrack for our time, it only takes one rogue planet that we don't know about to fall into a black hole (from an un-nova) that we can't see, which then emits a gamma ray burst towards two collapsing-spiral neutron stars within 50 light years for us to get wiped out and astronomy to be "whack calendar of the ancients". That's at the nth-term, but yea you are right, stuff like this and Nostradamus serve to illustrate the prospecting-outcomes skill, and offers an additional opportunity for parallel reasoning skills later on in life.
My own father (RIP) was absolutely obsessed with the stuff in Revelations for pretty much his whole life. A conservative Baptist certainly, and intelligent, and believed in evolution, but this particular hangup, inherited from and also studied by his own father, sometimes together, just seemed to infect his entire mindset.
His last decade I could barely have a conversation with him without it diverting to those subjects. Weird, and sad what this kind of thinking can do. Took away my own father from me as a 'friend' to talk to. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.12 20:01:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:6) Try to avoid having too many intimate relations with your followers. Sex scandals have been the end of many otherwise highly successful cults.  I'm not so sure about that. Sometimes 'free love' is a great recruitment tool, and sexual promiscuity can bring people closer together rather than make them jealous of eachother. It seems to be working well for the Raeliens. But i suppose it would depend on the types of people who show up. If they're largely Christian i may just settle on polygamy since that's easy to justify using the bible. I will of course be able to select my wives freely, while everyone else makes do with those who are left over, because it's what god wants. Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:When the 'Dinosaur Asteroid' wiped out pretty much everything, there was not even a Mayan Calendar, obviously.
It is not required for a disaster to occur. I think there's been 6 mass extinctions we know of. I'm skeptical of those who say another is just around the corner, but also think those who act like it will never happen are fooling themselves. If they keep claiming another is about to happen, they'll eventually be right. And here's the tale of a Chinese man who has spent $160,000 creating floating balls which people can allegedly survive the 21st in.
If we do notice an asteroid heading our way, the recently vocal anti-science dweebs will start believing in Physics really quick. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.12 21:53:00 -
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Agreed.
But their most difficult decision is deciding which flavor of Kool-Aid to choose. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.13 13:36:00 -
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pussnheels wrote: Media itself is partly to blame just look at the amount of documantries on history vhannel and similair tv channels about the upcomming doomsday in the last 2 years
Not just that either. I never thought I'd quit watching the History Channel, but with the amount of time they spend broadcasting dreck like "Ancient Aliens".......sad.
History. Really ?
edit: And the Learning Channel (TLC). Started as an offshoot of PBS if I remember correctly or some kind of public educational funds. Now shows "Honey Boo-Boo".  RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.13 13:40:00 -
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pussnheels wrote: a like for you good sir for linking a fragment of one of my all time favourite films made by my all time favourite director with one of my all time favourite actors
I still say Kubrick should have left in the War Room Pie Fight. There is one shot where you can still see a pie on the table in the background. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.13 15:38:00 -
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Telegram Sam wrote:pussnheels wrote: a like for you good sir for linking a fragment of one of my all time favourite films made by my all time favourite director with one of my all time favourite actors +1! My favorite movie ever, bar none.
I was so glad over a decade ago now when it came out on DVD at correct Aspect Ratio and I could see Kubrick's B-52 shots wingtip to wingtip finally. RIP Vile Rat-á "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.14 17:49:00 -
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That is so true in your last paragraph.
Like was stated somewhere above, the mass media should be blamed for preying on the uneducated and the fearfully religious.
Education, or the lack of, is a huge issue in America now especially, with even some Senators on the various Science committees even SAYING they do not believe in Science. It's a really tragic situation, and makes me glad to be one of the last with a good public education up till 1983.
Like Neil DeGrasse Tyson Tweeted in response to a ridiculous Apocalyptic Post that said the oncoming "Planet of Doom" could very well be invisible so he should believe that too, "If we do detect a planet like that coming our way, everyone wil definitely believe in Physics:. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.15 13:51:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:pussnheels wrote: Media itself is partly to blame just look at the amount of documantries on history vhannel and similair tv channels about the upcomming doomsday in the last 2 years
Not just that either. I never thought I'd quit watching the History Channel, but with the amount of time they spend broadcasting dreck like "Ancient Aliens".......sad. History. Really ? edit: And the Learning Channel (TLC). Started as an offshoot of PBS if I remember correctly or some kind of public educational funds. Now shows "Honey Boo-Boo".  aye i got very aggitated once when i stumbled on a episode of that series called ancient aliens , when on of those experts litteraly said , that those ancient culture didn't had the knowledge to draw a straight line and there fore it must be a extraterrestial alien influence Where do they find these '''Experts '',this goes for those doomsday exper'ts aswell ...... really
It's the leagcty of that von Daniken fellow from the 70's. Had a bigger influence that I would of ever thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Daniken -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.15 18:30:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote: and mathematics more complex than what we currently use,
they had a knowledge of the stars which matches our own with everything modern tech can provide.
Sorry but I believe neither of these 2 points at all.
They had nothing approaching the accuracy of the Calculus (otherwise even the Egyptian Pyramids would be more accurate than they are).
Also, they could not know at all of what we have learned from the Hubble Deep Field. Not even what 'nebulae' really were. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.15 18:58:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Bane Necran wrote: and mathematics more complex than what we currently use,
they had a knowledge of the stars which matches our own with everything modern tech can provide. Sorry but I believe neither of these 2 points at all. They had nothing approaching the accuracy of the Calculus (otherwise even the Egyptian Pyramids would be more accurate than they are). You might find this interesting. Or this for more in-depth info on their math system. And all you have to do is look into the Dresden codex to see their knowledge of astronomy. No one argues they weren't highly advanced. Quote:Also, they could not know at all of what we have learned from the Hubble Deep Field. Not even what 'nebulae' really were. All we really learned from the deep field is that there are tons of Galaxies and nebulae out there, which wouldn't have surprised any of the ancient cultures i mentioned. None of them thought they were the center of the universe like the Europeans did for so long. They all knew space was really, really, big, and we were just one planet among many.
That math is still nowhere close to the Calculus, at all.
And I guarantee you they had no idea of what the speed of light was. Or even wondered if it had a speed. It just 'was' to them.
And I've heard the thing about sirius, and it was definitely a story they told as part of a myth. If it can't be seen with the naked eye...they can't see or know of it fo real. QED.
Methinks you have been reading too much of this nonsense.
I do believe the Greeks had electric batteries though.
edit: also all these maths were off by quite a bit as they had no concept of zero at all.
2nd edit: also, what is this 21st Century looking to the past for solutions instead of thinking forward and finding new solutions ? I find it really seriously disturbing.
Without forward thinking, we would not be communicating in this way at all. Aand not nearly so fast. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.15 21:58:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:The sexagesimal system of math is much more complex than our current one. Everyone agrees on that. Some also claim it was more accurate at working with very small or very large numbers, so maybe even a better system than what we use.
And they were the first culture to use symbols to represent large numbers in Math, which could be considered the beginning of Algebra. Algebra was born in the same area, after all.
And methinks you haven't been reading about much of this at all. It's easy to just dismiss everything, or maybe at most go to the skeptics dictionary and let them tell you what to think. Read it all for yourself and decide. Don't even let me do the thinking for you.
I don't think anyone is looking to the past for solutions. Just trying to make sense of our past. A lot of things don't add up. We can't be sure of our future without knowing our past.
One of the main points of mathematics is simplification, not complexity. The calculus allows extensions of itself to be applied not only to biology and chemistry, but astronomy....and just about anything else. In fact everything. And yes Algebra was born in the same area. But even then the concept of Integration was nonexistent and unknown. And their system is unworkable for quantuum equations and Infinite Set Theory in particular. Also again, no zero. 1-1 equaled the unknown.
Our system is just fine with both large and small numbers. Not sure what that statement is supposed to mean.
None of this is 'better' than our system in anyway. Otherwise, every mathemetician would have poo-poohed Newton and his Principia awhile back. If anyone ever wrote a proof of the existence of God, every scientist and mathematician would immediately start believeing. Trust me on that one.
Thank you for presenting what you did. Yes, I read through it all and have come to my own conclusions. None of it was alien or wrong, but none of your statements are concludable by the materials presented.
Finally, blame those who burned the Library at Alexandria. That's where all the amazing ancient truths were kept. That we do know. Yes, it's sad it's mostly all gone. Without that, which is not recovarable, we just are not going to know. I'm sure they had some fascinating lost ideas that we have not thought of or different methods of aproach to what we have had to re-learn.
I just do not believe these systems were better or more efficient. We would have adopted them if so. That's all really. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.15 21:59:00 -
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Reiisha wrote:Even if the end of the world happens i'm refusing to acknowledge it since i'm seeing my GF again next saturday.
That will happen. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.15 22:14:00 -
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That is one of the few times I would laugh over that kind of circumstance.
Culling the herd, indeed.
edit: 4 typos if you can believe that. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.16 21:16:00 -
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No.
You just seem to want to dismiss modern science entirely or something.
The other side will olways seem wrong to the other side.
This isn't a contest.
The most brilliant minds can barely fathom dark matter and energy, much less myself.
There will always be mysteries. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.16 21:50:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:You just seem to want to dismiss modern science entirely or something. I'm not sure where you're getting that. I'm obsessed with modern science. This is just about how so-called primitive cultures had advanced knowledge of things. There's no denying they did. The only thing up for argument is how.
You claimed they had better math than the Calculus. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.17 14:47:00 -
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Calico-Jack Daniels wrote:"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
Yes....see my posting above about the rural family doomsday gatherings in Arkansas.
I believe they simply cannot read (such as the passage your statement is from), and are only told. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.17 16:04:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote: I personally think that "paranormal events", "miracles," or whatever you want to call them do happen. And that there's a scientific explanation for them. We just haven't found it yet.
This statement I do agree with wholeheartedly.
edit: I've experienced a few myself. Too long a story to relate here.
But if it is not detected with the senses, like that planet, it's not real. It's myth.
There is no explanation for Medusa as she could not really be seen, heard, etc., much less really experienced. Therefore fiction.
The difference between truth and mythology in ancient eras is a job for better minds than you or I. They are called Anthropologists. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.17 19:55:00 -
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Thank goodness I'm old enough to know when my leg is being pulled by Chinese using ultra-cheap video cameras and exploiting their visual kinks ala David Lynch in "Inland Empire". -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.19 18:18:00 -
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Elias Greyhand wrote:I'm hoping robots are invovled.. Just recieved my copy of How to Survive A Robot Uprising.
Waiting on the next Spielberg film "Robopocalypse".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1541155/ -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.19 19:14:00 -
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Tweet:
Neil deGrasse TysonGÇÅ@neiltyson
Planning a dinner for end-of-world Friday. I think I'll serve wine from 2000 & from other end-of-world years that have passed
-á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.20 18:25:00 -
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Speaking of which, didn't Siberia already survive one meteor/blackhole/whatever a little over a century ago ? Should be a safe place in general.  -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.20 22:02:00 -
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Gosh, everyone's talking about this doomsday thing like there's no tomorrow.  -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.21 17:39:00 -
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7 of 9 with a Post-Doomsday message for all: https://twitter.com/JeriLRyan/status/282027577332363264/photo/1 -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.21 19:22:00 -
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Seriously, it all comes down to a lack of education. Really. Period. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.21 21:04:00 -
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Borascus wrote:
There is a book called "How to make friends and alienate people" - I claim to have only read half of it.
The better book written in the 90's was : "How to Separate People from Their Money" -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.23 13:05:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Akita T wrote:So, wait, I'm confused, when was the world supposed to end, 21.12.2012 or 22.12.2012 ? :p It's Solstice. 21 or 22nd depending on your Calender iirc.
The Solstice was exactly 6:12 UTC the morning of 12/21/2012 on every Julian-based calendar. -á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2012.12.24 17:45:00 -
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The show is over. Next. -áGÇ£Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.GÇ¥ - Oscar Wilde |
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