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Spaceman Jack Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 37	Posted - 2012.12.11 21:42:00 - [31] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: This topic has been done to death. Semi-AFK cloaking A way to find cloakers About AFK cloakers AFK stealth pilots in 0.0 Is cloaking working as intended? AFK Cloaking Solution AFK Cloaking Kill Local Chat Simple solutions to big problems A few points of interest (typical "system-wide decloaking device" suggestion) Do we need an AFK indicator? New class of destroyer (typical "launch a decloaking bubble" suggestion) Removing local forever - a completely new mechanic A real AFK cloaking solution A solution to AFK cloaking and nerf local nonsense Easy fix to afk cloaking - Cumulative Cap Upkeep Hunter-killer destroyers and better bonuses for using cloak Decloaking - sov system upgrade Local chat with extra feature Cloaking revisited - game balancing - AFK cloakers Yet another cloaking thread GÇª again GÇª-áand that's just the first dozen pages of search results for "AFK cloak", not including the non-English posts. Those are just people bitching about it. Non of them show you HOW to AFK cloak. I want to know HOW to do this.
Mistah Ewedynao Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.12.11 21:44:00 - [32] - Quote 7/10 cause I like the beat while AFK.
Metal Icarus Legion Of Idiots legion of extraordinary Idi0ts 387	Posted - 2012.12.11 21:48:00 - [33] - Quote ok Alex, i'll take Psychological warfare for 700!
Ptraci 3 R Corporation The Irukandji 743	Posted - 2012.12.11 21:57:00 - [34] - Quote Now I realize I was beginning to miss this thread. There's only one way to deal with cloaky campers and that's to counter cloaky-camp. They hate it as much as you do and so after a while they will stop when their ratting and industry slows to a crawl. The worst cloaky camp situation is when a 3rd party is hired with an NPC corp alt to cloaky camp you, but you usually have an idea who is putting them up to it anyway. This is a stupid game mechanic since it relies on someone being logged in and only logged in, to disrupt an entire system. But cloaks are far too valuable for "other reasons", so we'll have to live with it. Of course now with the new buffed mining barges, it's trivial to deal with a cyno-equipped cloaky camper using a bait fleet.... Spaceman Jack wrote: I want to know HOW to do this. In the unlikely event that you're not trolling, fly to a nullsec system in a rookie ship equipped with a cloak, go to a safe spot, cloak up, and go to work leaving your home computer logged in to eve. Voila - afk cloaking. The problem isn't being afk, it's not being able to tell if the other guy is afk or not.
BoBoZoBo MGroup9 Quantum Cafe 124	Posted - 2012.12.11 22:35:00 - [35] - Quote This is truly a masterful post and thread. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite
Caghji Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 37	Posted - 2012.12.11 23:24:00 - [36] - Quote Always interesting that it is unaffected players that troll the "AFK Camping Stealth Bombing is quite possibly the best thing CCP ever allowed in their game mechanics" argument......... What we are not asking for.......... Doing away with stealth doing away with risk doing away with griefing doing away with camping fun but at teh same time do nothing about afk ratting and mining What we are asking for Make the camper work for his griefing in a gaming way oh and do something to stop afk mining and afk ratting while you're at it........ Case in point - replicator has 24+ accounts and is now camping provi region effectively shutting down miners and ratters there - to the extent that all those wonderful carebears that tough null sec players keep saying should move to null - and they did - are now packing up there hulks and going back to hisec This isn't a poke at replicator - I admire him for his dedication (24 crazy accounts!) - he is just taking the camping mechanic to its logical conclusion. In fact if carebears really want to see a change to this mechanic then I suggest starting up a Camping alliance and go and camp 100's of null sec systems across the game - most carebears have 2-4 accounts - get organised and train a toon in SB - and get together and go and camp the big sov blocks in null - log on when you know you can't play and stay cloaked......maybe something for another thread...... My fun suggestions for making camping an 'active pass time' 1. Stront fuel needed for cloak operation - 100 hrs worth in a frig 150 hours in a cruiser 200 in a bs 2. Slow burn scanning probe - takes an hour (or more) but will find a cloaked ship if it doesn't move 3 Slow burn overheating - cloaking device slowly overheats - cooldown takes twice as long as the overheating - maybe an hour before mods start to take damage - 4 hours for full burn out of cloak - 4. Sov anchorable structure will generate bookmarks for everyship in system after they have been in system for more than 8 hours and follow the ship even if moving or cloaked I guess the main point is make camping an active pass time Cheers
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 2225	Posted - 2012.12.12 00:20:00 - [37] - Quote Spaceman Jack wrote: Those are just people bitching about it. Non of them show you HOW to AFK cloak. I want to know HOW to do this. You didn't read the threads. I can tell. Let me break it down for you: Get cloaky ship, preferably one with better cyno fuel consumption fit cloak and cyno to your cloaky ship infiltrate enemy system Sit AFK for a few days, just log in when you go to work and as soon as you can after DT, activate your cloaking device. The danger that AFK cloakers present arrives in the following scenario: Get a fleet together, make sure at least one person has a titan or black ops that can open a (covert) cyno bridge Light cyno Other guy opens cyno bridge gank fleet comes through bridge gank fleet optionally goes home Of course you will probably come back with "but that's not AFK", which is beside the point. The main threat of "AFK" cloakers is that you never know when that gank is going to arrive. It's not the AFK or the cloaky bit that concerns people, it's the near instant arrival of a gank fleet. Now go ahead and prattle on about how they're not really AFK if they're attacking you. We'll understand. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Bohoba Blue Ice Melts 6	Posted - 2012.12.12 01:02:00 - [38] - Quote Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote: If there was no Local, they wouldn't even know they were there. I wish modern battlefields had local. haha they do ever see google maps ? am sure the powers to be know how many ants are in your house even as I type this :) so its beter than local because you see more than just a name u see what they are doing and who there doing it with :) cloaked or not lol
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1889	Posted - 2012.12.12 01:39:00 - [39] - Quote Bohoba wrote: Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote: If there was no Local, they wouldn't even know they were there. I wish modern battlefields had local. haha they do ever see google maps ? am sure the powers to be know how many ants are in your house even as I type this :) so its beter than local because you see more than just a name u see what they are doing and who there doing it with :) cloaked or not lol You can see cloaked people doing things? Magic ~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Minimal Charisma Padded Sell 31	Posted - 2012.12.12 02:09:00 - [40] - Quote All hail the Invisible Pink AFK Cloaker, as she is both invisible and pink (and AFK) and yet still a threat.
Usagi Toshiro Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 5	Posted - 2012.12.12 02:45:00 - [41] - Quote Bane Necran wrote: Doc Fury wrote: The attack only occurs in the mind of the "victim". Mind Bullets? That's telekinesis. That's the power; to move you.
Antisocial Malkavian Antisocial Malkavians 230	Posted - 2012.12.12 02:49:00 - [42] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Is this another thread about afk cloaking? Oh please, just remove local already. fixt that fer u http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears you will be harvested
Pretty GuyYeah 30	Posted - 2012.12.12 02:49:00 - [43] - Quote Easy. Lock target, orbit and attack. Then go get some more cereal and hope for the best. Remove local. Revamp or buff drones. Buff low and nullsec. Limit null camping possibilities.
Ocih Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 353	Posted - 2012.12.12 02:58:00 - [44] - Quote AFK cloaking is a means of trolling in game. Uncloak a Pilgrim the second someone tries to mine ice or do anything. Usually you don't even need to shoot them. You have stopped them from doing something though. It's the core of EVE. Broken as intended.
Ptraci 3 R Corporation The Irukandji 744	Posted - 2012.12.12 04:08:00 - [45] - Quote Ocih wrote: AFK cloaking is a means of trolling in game. Uncloak a Pilgrim the second someone tries to mine ice or do anything. For best effect name said Pilgrim "Hot Dropper" also...
Webvan State War Academy Caldari State 189	Posted - 2012.12.12 04:24:00 - [46] - Quote I'm posting in this thread engaging my cloak goin' AFK Be afraid, be much afraid...
Johnny Jinks Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 11	Posted - 2012.12.12 04:48:00 - [47] - Quote If i was in the middle of infinite space and it was bed time. i would probably go cloak while i slept.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 728	Posted - 2012.12.12 06:48:00 - [48] - Quote Ocih wrote: AFK cloaking is a means of trolling in game. Message recieved. Training for cloak now. Ive already got 'Walk away from keyboard' to level 5. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Jawas The Scope Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2012.12.12 11:02:00 - [49] - Quote HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote: [quote=Spaceman Jack]People arent looking to do away with stealth....I love my stealth ships. People want a way to scan down the cloaked camper or a active aggressive way to counter the camper thats not passive like leaving the system. Wouldn't being able to scan a cloaked ship be doing away with stealth? What's the point in having a cloak if you can be scanned anyway? That would kill the whole idea of Covops being able to remain undetected and gather intel. Maybe if probes took over an hour due to the minimal emissions of a cloaked ship but could scan a stationary ship so long as it remained stationary and you have Sov in that system, it would be reasonable. That means that Sov owners have a little more security to find AFK cloakers but anywhere else, you take your chances. If you can't scan for a moving target, AFK cloakers who remain stationary for hours would be detected in time but anyone actively moving around and gathering intel remains undetected. If they move during that hour, the probes won't pick them up. It would probably mean introducing a specific probe that only scans for cloaked ships that could last for over an hour in space. It should not find uncloaked ships due to calibration differences. It must also use the triangulation method so it can't be used alone and each probe may therefore have to be guarded. I would say an hour is reasonable because it has to be significantly long enough to be worth having the cloak in the game and only someone with enough determination to find an AFK cloaker in their Sov space would use it. It also gives the cloaker time to move if they think probes are being used. However, I do enjoy the thought of a cloaked ship in local scaring the heck out of nullsec carebears.
Grimpak Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 505	Posted - 2012.12.12 11:09:00 - [50] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: Of course you will probably come back with "but that's not AFK", which is beside the point. The main threat of "AFK" cloakers is that you never know when that gank is going to arrive. It's not the AFK or the cloaky bit that concerns people, it's the near instant arrival of a gank fleet. Now go ahead and prattle on about how they're not really AFK if they're attacking you. We'll understand. well, unless he has a macro (which is forbidden and you should report it ASAP), to do all that you posted he needs to be at the keyboard, so he really isn't Away From the Keyboard, now is he? [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Azrael Dinn The 20th Legion Mildly Sober 20	Posted - 2012.12.12 11:24:00 - [51] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: The attack only occurs in the mind of the "victim". It's still an attack which can't be countered
Frying Doom Zat's Affiliated Traders 1011	Posted - 2012.12.12 11:38:00 - [52] - Quote AFK cloaking happens all the time when you get older. You go out into Null in your cloaked stealth bomber, you think hmmm, what to attack. Next thing you know you wake up 8 hours later, only to check the forums and see how many people posted complaining about the fear and terror you struck while you slept. "The older generations, striking fear into the hearts of Null for hopefully many years to come" Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Azrael Dinn The 20th Legion Mildly Sober 20	Posted - 2012.12.12 11:38:00 - [53] - Quote Spaceman Jack wrote: I keep hearing about these "AFK cloakers" that attack people. How does one attack when not at the keyboard? Is there a script for this? Is it a VNC? A mod? Special Ship? Is it CCP sanctioned? I am very confused because I do not know how to do this thing where you scout people and kill them while AFK? I would love to be able to do that. Thanks. I could make a wall of text, ask psychologists to verify why it feel like an attack and eventualy make you look like a fool but I will not cause it would take too long, you would not understand it and there seems to be an easier solution. So CCP, please remove local so we can have new topics to talk about.
Ptraci 3 R Corporation The Irukandji 744	Posted - 2012.12.12 11:57:00 - [54] - Quote Azrael Dinn wrote: It's still an attack which can't be countered Sure it can. Go cloaky camp them. It only can't be countered if you have no idea who the 5 day old NPC corp alt is, or who sent him. But if you have no idea then your diplo should be shot.
Theresa Lamont Rogue Fleet 55	Posted - 2012.12.12 13:04:00 - [55] - Quote CCP loves AFK cloackers. Player A wants to disturb player B (in an ennemy alliance or corp). He sends is toon in player B's farming system to lower their index (cloacked in a safe for days...never moving). Player A still needs to farm ISKs for himself or participate to OPs and CTAs in is own alliance so he needs an other account in null. Player B needs to farm for ISKs but the AFK cloacker (player A) is in system so its to dangerous to go out. He goes to another system but finds another AFK cloacker (player C - sometimes from the same corp as player A) that is being sitting there for days. The only place he could go to make ISKs is in high sec however, is alliance does not like to see their members in HS sec. There is also the WDs. So he creates an alt account (sometimes two) to farm ISKs in high sec. BOOM, CCP just made more money just because of the AFK cloacking phenomenon.
Eli Green The Arrow Project 110	Posted - 2012.12.12 13:13:00 - [56] - Quote Azrael Dinn wrote: Doc Fury wrote: The attack only occurs in the mind of the "victim". It's still an attack which can't be countered Sure you can, minimize local wumbo
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1891	Posted - 2012.12.12 15:11:00 - [57] - Quote Azrael Dinn wrote: Doc Fury wrote: The attack only occurs in the mind of the "victim". It's still an attack which can't be countered Random Neutral uses AFK and Cloaks! It's super effective ! Actually, it should be activates cloak and uses AFK. Can't press cloak butan while away from keyboard (and mouse). Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Sentamon 362	Posted - 2012.12.12 16:20:00 - [58] - Quote Webvan wrote: I'm posting in this thread engaging my cloak goin' AFK Be afraid, be much afraid... I see you Local and I'm docking my ship. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 924	Posted - 2012.12.12 16:40:00 - [59] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Is this another thread about afk cloaking? Oh please, just nerf local already. Begin endless whine threads about not being able to see hostiles in local.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 10794	Posted - 2012.12.12 16:40:00 - [60] - Quote Azrael Dinn wrote: Doc Fury wrote: The attack only occurs in the mind of the "victim". It's still an attack which can't be countered Sure it can. Either close local as has already been suggested, or don't misread the intel it's proving you. CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.

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